honest genetics

HonestGenetics said:

View attachment 4237490 A fresh clipped nug from my Sin City Kush F3 line. The F1 original was bred by Alphakronik. He’s a guy I’ve never met personally but I have a lot of respect for the work he did. It’s very rare I work someone else’s line in this manner, that’s how good it was. Out of respect for his original creation I will not be releasing this line, but the crosses I made with the F3 male are incredible and are available now in extremely limited quantities

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HonestGenetics said:

I wondered if he realized his contradictions too. And he responded to things that weren’t even said quite a few times. Made me question his overall sanity...

Anyways, I have somewhat addressed that question already in my previous posts but I’ll more directly and in depth answer this time so that it can be squashed for good. I absolutely did not breed Orange Tree, Bananimal, High-C, or any other Greenline Seed Company strain. That work was all done by Ricky and Amber who are the team behind Greenline Organics Nursery as well as Greenline Organics Seed Company. They are engaged and have been a couple for about a decade now. People tend to like speaking to Amber more than Ricky because Amber is a total sweetheart and she puts more of an effort into customers who reach out to her.

Ricky is known for having a Massachusetts attitude and being a bit blunt with people. We are the products of our upbringing after all.

So to clarify something that’s a huge misnomer in the IG/cannabis community, I personally have never “Ghost Bred” strains for anyone else. And that includes Greenline. Our work actually focuses on pretty different stuff, I use a lot of Moms that I hunted myself that no one else has access to. There’s also stuff I bred and work with that I have never shared. Ricky only just recently got gifted my Chocolate Frosting mother and my Blue Hurricane mother as well, hence why no strains have been made by him with those yet whereas I have a lot of stuff made with both Moms already. I haven’t yet shared with the community a ton of projects I’ve been working the last two years. I’m still doing rigorous testing on them and I only release stuff when I’m personally super proud of the results.
Anyways....

Probably three things confuse people about GL and I more than anything.

#1 a post made by Relentless a couple years ago when he and Ricky had a falling out. He brought me into that one for some reason and claimed we were the same guy. Which was asinine behavior on his part since he knew for a fact we weren’t and had tried to contact me to arbitrate with GL on his behalf prior to that. And I told him to man up and squash his own beef and that I wasn’t trying to be involved. I also told him that Greenline had mad respect for him and his work(which was true at that time). Relentless tried to tell me he would set me up over at Seeds Here Now if I would ditch Greenline Organics Seedbank entirely. I said absolutely not and only after that did Relentless block me and make his post I later heard about and was given snapshots of. Which was just immature behavior. One thing Ricky and I absolutely have in common is a sense of loyalty. Greenline regardless of any personal beef he’s had in fact gave me the biggest bump of any other person in the whole entire industry. He will always be my friend for that reason, I can only treat people based on the way they personally have treated me and in my world Ricky is a solid dude. He definitely dropped the ball on customer service at one point for a long time but he’s also running five other companies. I mean how many people are even aware that he’s in the Avocado import business? Or that he’s 10% owner of DipNdabs? Or part owner of three other businesses that isn’t even Greenline Organics? I personally think he just bit off more than he could chew and he got bad at packaging and sending orders out in a timely manner. I hear a lot better things from people nowadays and Ricky tells me he sends out once a week these days as well.

#2 Is his oldest IG was listed on the back of my seed packaging. At that time the logic there was pretty simple. He was my sole distributor and so I wanted people to know where to go to get my gear and see reposts of it. People could go to his page, open his website and have a direct link to my wares. Back then I didn’t deal directly to customers or with any other bank. And my later Seedbank dealings were something of a mess and I ended up taking care of many of their customers for them. In absolute retrospect I should have made a smaller order on that packaging but they tempt you with lowering the overall price by buying more on those deals. My newest packaging that will be ready in late January is going to make things more clear that I am just me and no one else.

#3 and probably the source of the most confusion of all was at the 2016 Emerald Cup Greenline had prepared his Orange Tree S1 Seeds as well as some Cherry Pie crosses. However Shatterlabels had dropped the ball on getting his packaging order done on time. Ricky and I have been friends for a long time, our friendship actually preceded his seedbank. He’s always been a really solid guy to me and anyone who ever had a concern with him that told me about it later said it was taken care of. However not usually in a very timely manner and that almost always was the issue brought to my attention. Anyways he didn’t have his own packaging and wanted to release his new lines at Emerald Cup and asked me if I was ok with them going out in Honest Genetics packaging since I had a ton of mylars already. I remember at the time I quipped to him something like “they better not suck Ricky” which was just my way of saying yes lol. In retrospect I wish I’d told him to put those out in small ziplocks with stickers from stickermule or something since that could have been assembled in a few days short notice but I didn’t. Hindsight is definitely 20/20 in my experience. I didn’t encounter the confusion lasting over two years out from that lmao

Anyways, that’s the long answer to your question. The short is just no.

Bananimal actually was bred before I even met Ricky. He had those seeds ready a couple years before he even grew them out. And Orange Tree was made shortly after I met him. I remember talking with GL for hours on end over the phone back in the day about our different breeding strategies and traits we felt were stuff to watch out for. And honestly he and I don’t always agree on certain things, but his work is a lot better than most I see. I can’t speak from growing his lines personally(we actually rarely share our personal creations lol), but he definitely breeds some fire because I’ve smoked tons of flower samples from Greenline Organics Nursery and it was some fuego!

That all said, I did breed DipNdots. For some reason people forget that one was actually mine and credit GL instead. Ricky did the pheno hunt on that one and sold a clone of it that got passed around for awhile. I actually wasn’t completely thrilled with DipNdots and it was released to only a handful of growers. I’m pretty sure my homie DifferentShadesOfGreen has most of those packs and still hasn’t popped them, he even got some other packs gifted to him from my other homie Stickwicketz lol. I personally am estatic about Chocolate Frosted Sherbert, it has very similar genetics and I feel that one I just nailed it 1000%

I hope that was a clear and concise answer to your question lol, sorry for the lengthy response it took hahaha

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Tangerine_ said:

Thank you @min0r for starting this thread.

I've always been curious about the work but last year the only place I saw Honest Genetics listed was GLO and I haven't ordered from Rick in awhile.
Looks like their branching out which is great, and working with nice genetics at a decent price...also great.


And thanks Honest, for coming back to RIU. It clear from your post you knew it existed, just didn't realize it was active.

Its not as trolly as people make it out to be. Avoid the politics section and the scammers and just keeping doing your thing and let your work speak for itself.
After checking the pics on IG, that shouldn't be a problem at all.

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HonestGenetics said:

Just wanted to say, I definitely appreciate you taking the time to preserve some of my photos and share them on here. Hopefully now that we’ve gotten my life story outta the way we can keep this forum about my actual strains lmao.
So again, thanks! I always appreciate knowing people out there are real fans of the work being done and I can tell that you took the actual time to follow me and save photos from GadsdenGardens page before he got hit. That guy is a buddy of mine and I’ve been to his gardens in Portland personally, he does an excellent job with my strains. Pretty soon he’s gonna be rocking a whole new list of cuts from my work as well

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min0r said:

no problem man, spreading informations a hobby of mine haha.

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Stiickygreen said:

The only guy growing out yer gear here feels pretty damn special for coming up as an arguing point in the drama. LOL. Fuckin' A.

Wish I had more funds to snag a few more of these but I've tapped things hard of late on the seed purchase front. I used to be able to just roll but legality has nixxed the Seed Fund pretty good around here. Ah.....I miss the good old days.....but I digress. Fuckin' Easy Streeters...

Always gonna be drama. Hard to do...but ignoring it sends the strongest message. I'm well over the characters, stories, and the games in this hobby (though I will admit to getting sucked in (off) at times)....I just want easy access, decent pricing, and good communication....and that is rare it seems in this "let's argue"/I know so and so and he says you suck world. Such is why I play this game pretty much in solo mode and grow what I want that appears interesting not what is the latest/greatest.

I still say get pics up. RIU is still here because so many other forums....centered around a seed shop/money-making scheme always go bust or take folks cash and burn hard. The pics/threads here are searchable on Google and that, IMO, makes info easy to find. I don't need fan boy shit that seems to be "IG"....see me....look what I grow...my shit is better than yours and that guy over there I don't even know sucks...

makes ya wonder if these guys really smoke weed....and if it's really any good...

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bubbahaze said:

I have 5 of his varieties going but I got mine from sol seeds, not glo and I've never had a problem with glo the company just the owners attitude

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sunni said:

Also ps posting PMs in public is a banable offence

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whytewidow said:

Let's see this message of me doing chargebacks to seedbanks or whatever. Let's see it. Either put it up or stfu. Bc that's straight bullshit.

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HonestGenetics said:

Silver is essentially the same idea as that, it won’t kill the plant in small doses but it certainly will destroy the DNA at a molecular level if overdone.

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bubbahaze said:

I have 5 of his varieties going but I got mine from sol seeds, not glo and I've never had a problem with glo the company just the owners attitude

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socaljoe said:

Curious to see what's in these beans. I sent an email to Honest and have purchased a couple packs to try out. I picked up a pack each of ScarJo and Oregon Orange Punch with Purple Frosting as freebies.

I won't know anything until I get a chance to grow some out, but right off the bat...I have a tracking number for my shipped order, on the same day making it, so I'm pretty ok with that. $75 for a pack of fems at 10+ seeds/pack is damn good pricing imo. Lastly, he was very cordial in our email correspondence, and that means something to me.

Now it's just a wait and see game. Looking to pop a couple of each fem cross right off and see what I see.

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socaljoe said:

Curious to see what's in these beans. I sent an email to Honest and have purchased a couple packs to try out. I picked up a pack each of ScarJo and Oregon Orange Punch with Purple Frosting as freebies.

I won't know anything until I get a chance to grow some out, but right off the bat...I have a tracking number for my shipped order, on the same day making it, so I'm pretty ok with that. $75 for a pack of fems at 10+ seeds/pack is damn good pricing imo. Lastly, he was very cordial in our email correspondence, and that means something to me.

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min0r said:

post pictures once you get some.

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Amos Otis said:

Same here. Having gotten an ok, I could see some winners of these finding some offspring landing in the BBB barn.

1 x Banana Punchsicle [fem[ - $75
1 x Oregon Orange Punch [fem] - $75
$150 - $30 [ 20% off sale ] = $120 + $10 ship = $130
free pack - Frost Factory

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socaljoe said:

Well guys, at the absolute least I can say that @HonestGenetics has delivered on his end of our agreement.

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With an extra feebie pack, no less.

I'm looking to start a few in the coming days, and will try and post as I grow.

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min0r said:

i'm so jealous of that mint choc chip.

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