Homemade oil for my vape pen

Go go n chill

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Probably better than what I purchased, I Purchased a fritted filter. I thought I could cut some filter membrane to fit it , but that’s turning out to be harder than what I thought. I would think what you have there might be OK if you can get the filter to seal around the funnel
 

reallybigjesusfreak

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ON A more serous note, it has great floral notes, is very uplifting, and provides a good motivational feel. I'm up way past my bedtime feeling good. listening to records with teh wife, we both agreed this cart is a face melter. distillate cut with terps
 

booms111

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I’ve been looking for a faster way to filter out the fats and lipids of my vape juice.... without using the syringe cartridges. What do you guys think about this from a small time DIY perspective? This is several .2 µm membranes layered inside of a Buchner
Pretty similar to what I've been eyeing up. Here's the cheapest setup I could find with a .22um filter.

https://www.amazon.com/Bottle-Vacuum-Sterile-Individually-Packaged/dp/B07BB3326W/ref=pd_sim_328_11?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B07BB3326W&pd_rd_r=7947d62d-41ce-11e9-a824-df4daa8f2bd1&pd_rd_w=iOPsI&pd_rd_wg=gV1PE&pf_rd_p=90485860-83e9-4fd9-b838-b28a9b7fda30&pf_rd_r=ACSEMGVCS168HARF4KA7&psc=1&refRID=ACSEMGVCS168HARF4KA7

Might be better to buy just the top filter piece and get a glass bottle for bottom.
 

Go go n chill

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I’ve seen those but that is a lot of bottle for filtering vape juice
 

Chris Edward

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Hey Chris, quick question for you if you don't mind. I am just getting into concentrates so i don't know a whole lot about them. I tried vaping some shatter recently and it seemed like it had similar characteristics to hash were it is kinda lung expanding. It was just to hard on my lungs( old age former cig smoker). My question to you is does pressed resin have that same caracteristic. I don't have any trouble vaping oil or flower.
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@CAPT CHESAPEAKE and @macsnax

Sorry for not getting back to you both sooner.
I have epilepsy and I had a seizure and I haven’t been worth shit for the past week.
I use CBD and it helps but this post isn’t about that.

As far as rosin having the same characteristics as hash.
This is a tough question to answer because of all the variables involved.
I know this sounds like a cop-out, so please let me explain…

I can get all wordy about this, but the simple answer is that it depends on how they were both processed.
I agree with @macsnax, generally pressed rosin will have less plant material so it will be a smoother hit, BUT…This depends on the pore size of the rosin pressing bag, which can vary from 150microns (army green rosin) down to 15microns (amber rosin) and whether the hash was dry sifted (golden brown) or if it was sifted with dry ice (green-brown).
The less residual plant material, the smoother the hits will be. So it makes it really difficult to judge one generic example against another generic example.

When I was a kid the story going around about hash was that after picking buds all day the pickers would scrape the oil off their hands and hand press it into turd shapes as a side product. Similarly to how rosin pressing started because people were pressing sugar leaves.
Now both are specialties within the world of cannabis.

In my experience, hash hits hard, but so do larger micron pressed rosins.
That's why I vape extracts, so I don't cough and my house doesn't smell like weed, at least I don't think it does.
You know how when someone lives with lots of cats but doesn't realize they smell like cat piss...
Oh, shit now I am all paranoid...
lol...
 

Chris Edward

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@macsnax is live rosin the same as pressed flower. My pen i used has a double quarts coil i be leave. I could not even take small hits on the lowest setting of that shatter. I have a press that have not used yet but will be soon. I do not have the same problem with oil carts
@CAPT CHESAPEAKE,
Is your pen a G-Pen?
If it is, those look interesting?
How long does the coil last?
The dual quartz coil looks similar to an RDA, which give a strong hit and a lot of vape smoke.
Is there a hole in the bottom of the quartz coil?

If there is no hole, then you can dilute your concentrate as much as you want so the hit is more mellow.

I like to dilute my concentrates so I can slowly get to a plateau and then keep myself at that plateau for as long as I want.

If the final use of your pressing is so it can be diluted to be used in a vape pen, why not use another extraction method more inline with vaping like QWISO, QWET, or steep the flowers in something like MCT?
This is less labor intensive, the QW methods will produce more extract, and the end product will be smoother.
Just asking, I am not judging…
 

Chris Edward

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Yeah live rosin is considered to be pressed bubble hash or pressed live flowers. There's also dry sifting (static tech) then press the heads you collect. If you have sift screens and a DVD case, you're set. I'm actually looking at making some screens soon. Must be that point of winter where cabin fever is getting to me. I'm currently working on building two seeds cleaners right now.
@macsnax,

LOL, I am the same way!!!

I have my share of winter projects that never seem to all get done.
 

Chris Edward

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@booms111,
I know you asked this to @Go go n chill, so excuse me for butting in...

Filter papers stop at 2 microns (grade 602h) so, are you talking about using a syringe or bottle-top filter?
Bottle-top filters are similar to a Buchner funnel (see the attachment) and they typically come with filter options of 0.25 or 0.45 membranes.
The filters are part of the unit so nothing can slip under the filter like in a Buchner funnel and typically they are either sold pre-sterilized and individually wrapped.
In the case of PTFE filters, they can be autoclaved.
All bottle-top filters are meant to be single use.

Buchner funnels are meant to have small amounts of liquid poured into the center and then the resulting crystals as pushed aside and more liquid is poured into the center.
In a typical lab situation what ends up in the flask is the waste product and what is in the filter paper is the portion that is retained. So with QW filtering this process is reversed, which works fine for bulk filtering from around 100 microns to 11 microns or so.

You could try using a Hirsch funnel with a pleated filter, which will be a pain in the ass to make a seal and will filter much slower than a buchner funnel, but you will be able to fill it up.
Or you can put a #1 filter (11 microns) into a buchner funnel and then stack a paper coffee filter (around 20 microns ) on top of that which will allow you to double filter your extract at the same time. But just like the Hirsch funnel, getting the coffee filter to make a seal, not fold into itself, or rip, is going to tricky.

Not to get all nanny state on you.
But if you buy the pre-sterilized bottle-top filters, open them outside and let them air out a bit. They sterilize these with ethylene oxide and that stuff is very nasty.
If you are thinking that opening the filter outside defeats the point of it being sterilized, you are right, but name one other part of the process that is sterile besides the solvent?

Again sorry for butting in, I hope what I had to say was helpful.
 

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Chris Edward

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Probably better than what I purchased, I Purchased a fritted filter. I thought I could cut some filter membrane to fit it , but that’s turning out to be harder than what I thought. I would think what you have there might be OK if you can get the filter to seal around the funnel
@Go go n chill,
What size fritted funnel do you have?
 

Go go n chill

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@booms111,
I know you asked this to @Go go n chill, so excuse me for butting in...

Filter papers stop at 2 microns (grade 602h) so, are you talking about using a syringe or bottle-top filter?
Bottle-top filters are similar to a Buchner funnel (see the attachment) and they typically come with filter options of 0.25 or 0.45 membranes.
The filters are part of the unit so nothing can slip under the filter like in a Buchner funnel and typically they are either sold pre-sterilized and individually wrapped.
In the case of PTFE filters, they can be autoclaved.
All bottle-top filters are meant to be single use.

Buchner funnels are meant to have small amounts of liquid poured into the center and then the resulting crystals as pushed aside and more liquid is poured into the center.
In a typical lab situation what ends up in the flask is the waste product and what is in the filter paper is the portion that is retained. So with QW filtering this process is reversed, which works fine for bulk filtering from around 100 microns to 11 microns or so.

You could try using a Hirsch funnel with a pleated filter, which will be a pain in the ass to make a seal and will filter much slower than a buchner funnel, but you will be able to fill it up.
Or you can put a #1 filter (11 microns) into a buchner funnel and then stack a paper coffee filter (around 20 microns ) on top of that which will allow you to double filter your extract at the same time. But just like the Hirsch funnel, getting the coffee filter to make a seal, not fold into itself, or rip, is going to tricky.

Not to get all nanny state on you.
But if you buy the pre-sterilized bottle-top filters, open them outside and let them air out a bit. They sterilize these with ethylene oxide and that stuff is very nasty.
If you are thinking that opening the filter outside defeats the point of it being sterilized, you are right, but name one other part of the process that is sterile besides the solvent?

Again sorry for butting in, I hope what I had to say was helpful.
@Go go n chill,
What size fritted funnel do you have?
30mm with 50ml flask and vacuum pump
 

Chris Edward

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30mm with 50ml flask and vacuum pump
What micron are you looking to filter to?
Cause here's a couple of links to some #1 (11 micron) "general purpose" filters.

https://www.amazon.com/Whatman-1001-329-Quantitative-Circles-Diameter/dp/B00394F9AK/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=30mm+#1+filter+paper&qid=1552182416&s=gateway&sr=8-1

https://scientificfilters.com/store/filter-papers-cellulose-filters-qualitative-filter-papers-1001-329?gclid=EAIaIQobChMIxoiK-rn24AIVURx9Ch0I7wAyEAQYAiABEgKOUPD_BwE

Whatman is a good solid brand.
Though I would be more apt to go with the second link, because people have been pulling weird stuff on Amazon lately.
You don't always get what you pay for, or you get the right product, but there's something off with it, like it's a second or old, or a return or something...

Plus you can request up to 3 samples from the second company, so you can try some stuff out before you purchase anything.

The second companies initial shipping is high, but it doesn't go up much the more you add.

I have no affiliation with the second company, BTW.

Hope this helps.
 
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CAPT CHESAPEAKE

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@CAPT CHESAPEAKE,
Is your pen a G-Pen?
If it is, those look interesting?
How long does the coil last?
The dual quartz coil looks similar to an RDA, which give a strong hit and a lot of vape smoke.
Is there a hole in the bottom of the quartz coil?

If there is no hole, then you can dilute your concentrate as much as you want so the hit is more mellow.

I like to dilute my concentrates so I can slowly get to a plateau and then keep myself at that plateau for as long as I want.

If the final use of your pressing is so it can be diluted to be used in a vape pen, why not use another extraction method more inline with vaping like QWISO, QWET, or steep the flowers in something like MCT?
This is less labor intensive, the QW methods will produce more extract, and the end product will be smoother.
Just asking, I am not judging…
Hey Chris, thanks for getting back to us. My pen is a Kandy Flvcko. Not sure about the hole in the bottom of the quartz coil.It is currently jammed up with the shatter. Also the pen is fairly new so not sure about how long the coil will last. Chris i am just learning about concentrates so the solvent less methods appealed to me. I am retired so i don't mine a little more work. Thanks for sharing your knowledge
 
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