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well what does your machine say is ideal npk for veg and flower
i got a machine too lol
a green machine jk

depends on rooms and strains. all are diff and even in same room or strains. each plant has its needs as we do to. all im trying to say is the mg only giuves 3 items they need. real food has all 17
and each compaies nutes have diff levels of each element in each bottle so it gets quite involved tio dial it down to guve a plain and simple answer. and im not trying to be cocky here, justy trying to share valuable info most dont have access to. running at diff pH levels also has an effect on all this and soils and room cond...way involved.

Roots Organics is good and cheap in my area its 14.99 for 1.5 cuft and FF is 19-23 dollars . I personally like the minerals in Roots ,no need to blend it with anything else but #4 perlite for fast drainage no overwatering .

i never mentioned MG i said if u know the npk is the right level for our plants needs name doesnt matter or price
and if companies lie about npk how do u know if higher dollar nutes are accurate
and yes that is valuable way to determine needs but most dont have access to this type of test equipment so we have u watch plants and ph for signs that it has a psoitive effect or negative

The U.S. Environmental Protection Agency‎ (EPA) has enforced a series of stop-sale orders for Scotts products. The orders indicate the EPA has found that labels of 24 different Scotts products make false, misleading, or unsubstantiated claims. In addition, the EPA has indicated that some Scotts products contain unapproved ingredients. As of February 26, 2009, the EPA has ordered Scotts to cease distributing multiple fertilizers, herbicides, and insecticides.

well the whole thing started by sayin mg was good is why i said it only has 3. i agree nutes qualtiy isnt based on a name nor cost. i do it by science.
and again ill say 1 plant needs 200 nitro say at week 3 but the one next to it needed 400. so there is no set #. theres that reason for higher priced to a point is whats in it and the work involved in finding this out and testing it before it hits the market. we trial nutes for 6 month with our Bio-chemist bef0re we even get a shot of doing out trials on it then it may or may not hit markets

i agree with u there is no system or routine with MJ growing each plant has different need and characteristics what is good for one plant can harm another of same age

Medi 1 said:

well the whole thing started by sayin mg was good is why i said it only has 3. i agree nutes qualtiy isnt based on a name nor cost. i do it by science.
and again ill say 1 plant needs 200 nitro say at week 3 but the one next to it needed 400. so there is no set #. theres that reason for higher priced to a point is whats in it and the work involved in finding this out and testing it before it hits the market. we trial nutes for 6 month with our Bio-chemist bef0re we even get a shot of doing out trials on it then it may or may not hit markets

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medi how do u feel about shultz food are their claims accurate?

think i mentioned that schults...peters and mg are all the same company so i think that answers that..,.all crap. 3 elements is all or bad food sources used.
like i said...all do grow pot...but its all about quality to us.,im med and no way in hell id make a dood smoke anything grown in that stuff.
i sponsored by Green Planet Nutes. i know we use the same if not better sources than A and N even but is half the cost. we are trying to knock off all these multi line nutes to make things easier and cheeper for the end consumer. we even just released a 1 part all natural organic food. 1 bottle from seed to harvest. it even pulled very close second to full line nutes for potency. now that can make for a cheep nute wityh only needing 1 bottle the whole grow. ive just started tio test it myself in one of my journals here. its called Medi-One.

i found where peters and shultz are owned by spectrum brands but didnt sse that it owns MG they are owned by scotts i believe
am i mistaken and if they lie about npk have u tested or seen test as to what their actual npk is

im not saying they lie about those levels. more to what else is in it or some saying its organic. if its organic its not certified nor is it even listed. there is a diff on sayin OMRI listed and cert. and OMRI is the bottom the barrel on testing this. almost anyone can get omri. to me means nothing relay. yes some wont certify as then they have to release their recipes and this is mainly trade secrets.
like the example of animals that lick the lawn after fertilizing or moss killing with one of their so called organics..,.how if its organic.

MG is the main co. others are subs of this.
reklay the levals of each element isnt to important....to a point. there is a coating on the roots called Suberin. it stops them from intaking to much food and is why i also say no such thing as nute burn. its alck of food that does burning not to much. in a way to much by them not eating it and pulls the ph down and thus they cant eat it,. and burn. some say it salts up...well your food is a salt to begin with. its either attached to a salt molecule or a carbon one for organics. thats the diff.
so when i say levels not important to a point i do mean that to much of one blocks another. so this is what we need to do as a nute co is set those levels to be at whaqt the plant needs..or is close to what they need as each one is diff. so knowing this we can feed at full dose at any age and not have an issue. if we run enough through each time to wash the old un used out. if not this is when we drop the ph and get burns. and is also just a waste of food as most goes out the bottom.

not to try to argue but scotts-MG is the parent company and peters and shultz are owned by
spectrum brands they r not related
http://www.spectrumbrands.com/AboutUs/
http://www.thescottsmiraclegrocompany.com/

well as a nute copany myself i know they are same.

that link to the spectrum says they are a supplier not the owners. there is a diff.

think this says it all rught here in their opening line....who buys foods form a toothbrush co...............

spectrum Brands is a global consumer products company and a leading supplier of batteries, shaving and grooming products,

Medi1....you've lumped Peters into the crappy MG family. There are tons of grows that use Peters with amazing results. J R Peters sold his company to Spectrum then created Jacks Classic. Run a google search on Jacks Classic and MJ; you'll find that it is not only far from crap, but people prefer it. Most nute lines try to dazzle you with packaging where as a company like Jacks is all about the ingredients.

so u are basing that it is no good because a affiliate makes toothbrushes ?
and r u saying they cant own the company because the supply products it doesnt say they dont own it says they supply product
coke cola supplies beverages but they own it
i put up proof and but u saying it is wrong with no proof but your word but u say dont trust what they say contradicting and im through with this arguement
u have your opinion and i have mine so let just agree to disagree and shake hands as friends i think we are getting off the topic

ok...your opinion. being a nute co myslef i know a few trade secrets is more what im saying. send in a sample to be tested then. lets see how good 3 of 17 elements they needs makes for great pot.
so when did they sell and lest see this info then to show the sale. or is it just another name to hide behind from more suits,.

thank u and i agree

Spoc said:

Medi1....you've lumped Peters into the crappy MG family. There are tons of grows that use Peters with amazing results. J R Peters sold his company to Spectrum then created Jacks Classic. Run a google search on Jacks Classic and MJ; you'll find that it is not only far from crap, but people prefer it. Most nute lines try to dazzle you with packaging where as a company like Jacks is all about the ingredients.

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i dont care if any of you guys believe or not. i have the science that gets me to believe. like i said...send in samples for testing then. i dont care what you people use, just trying to educate a bit is all. take it or leace it. im not knocking people for using it just most dont know what it is or why they use thing anyways. or even what our plants need