HISTORY ..something to remember

vostok

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Since the beginnings of civilization in Europe cannabis was bred as hemp ...

oils were an unwanted by product of hemp,

those early farmers weren't dumb they soon learned to breed good hemp

by not using them low quality Asian seeds,

preferring Northern strains the no oil variety



Hemp/Cannabis didn't hit North America until the European's arrived,

then again it was grown as Hemp for rope

With Chinese arriving in California back in the day they bought their own..

perhaps for cooking,

that Asian strain got loose and was soon crossed

with the stable North American/Euro strain

to this day post WW2 North American strains is not so good as it still contains some of those oils

as many know, wild USA Hemp is still to be found on many back roads in the south

By the end of WW2 and early cold war days the hemp industry was dead

with many going to that new NYON rope


notes from the book Cannabis: Evolution and Ethnobotany

by Robert C. Clarke $49.74
 

too larry

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I used to do a bit of writing, and did a ton of research on the English colonies in the early 1700's. Many colonies had laws that you had to grow so much hemp for every acre of tobacco you grew. But like most laws coming from London, it was ignored more often than not. Way more profit with less labor to grow tobacco.

The story of Prohibition of Hemp is one of three rich and powerful men subverting the legislative process to their means. As I'm sure you know, it was all about paper. After the Civil War, Hemp was 2nd only to cotton as king of the south. But to turn the stalks into pulp so paper could be made was a very labor intensive job, keeping the price of hemp paper high. In the 30's there was a new machine invented to do the job with much less labor. This new machine was a threat to Hearst, Mellon and Dupont, the three men in question. They used Anslinger to reach their ends. They got the law rammed through congress in 1937 with most of the folks voting not really understanding what they were doing. {kind of like today}
 

too larry

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The story of the old Egyptian mummies testing positive for cocaine means there was an ancient international drug trade. Coupled with all the African statues in South America, I often wondered why weed never made it's way here much earlier.
 

vostok

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I used to do a bit of writing, and did a ton of research on the English colonies in the early 1700's. Many colonies had laws that you had to grow so much hemp for every acre of tobacco you grew. But like most laws coming from London, it was ignored more often than not. Way more profit with less labor to grow tobacco.

The story of Prohibition of Hemp is one of three rich and powerful men subverting the legislative process to their means. As I'm sure you know, it was all about paper. After the Civil War, Hemp was 2nd only to cotton as king of the south. But to turn the stalks into pulp so paper could be made was a very labor intensive job, keeping the price of hemp paper high. In the 30's there was a new machine invented to do the job with much less labor. This new machine was a threat to Hearst, Mellon and Dupont, the three men in question. They used Anslinger to reach their ends. They got the law rammed through congress in 1937 with most of the folks voting not really understanding what they were doing. {kind of like today}
From my understanding the reason why hemp was a compulsory crop was it was needed by the Royal Navy, perhaps fighting the French with Napoleon ..?

the assertion was found true by the USA in both WW1 and WW2

I believe Dupont invented NYLON in 1937 but was like TV not established until after WW2
 

vostok

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The story of the old Egyptian mummies testing positive for cocaine means there was an ancient international drug trade. Coupled with all the African statues in South America, I often wondered why weed never made it's way here much earlier.
Ancient_Egypt_rope_manufacture.jpg
Now Now.... Larry Cocaine is a plant found only in South America, Egyptian rope makers yes coke ..no

however Coke was a popular past time with many 'rich' anthropologists back in the 1920's ..lol
 

too larry

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From my understanding the reason why hemp was a compulsory crop was it was needed by the Royal Navy, perhaps fighting the French with Napoleon ..?

the assertion was found true by the USA in both WW1 and WW2

I believe Dupont invented NYLON in 1937 but was like TV not established until after WW2
Yep. Sails and rope. Plus the over supply of tobacco was driving prices down. One of the {many} revolts against London rule was due to young tobacco getting chopped. That was 1676 if my memory is correct. {Nope, that was the Bacon Rebellion I was thinking of. It was about the locals on the frontier wanting to kill more Indians than the Governor}

I have just heard this story in the last couple of years, but what I understood was Hearst had just bought millions of acres of timber land with a thought to get the paper for his newspapers cheaper. Mellon was his banker, and was carrying the loans for that land. Dupont had refined a chemical method of breaking down the pulp in pine trees to make it easier to make into paper. So the three of them got together. But like most really good, neat stories, it might not be true.

Nylon was made for the first time in '35, but didn't really take off until WWII. Until then it was made into tooth brush bristles and hose for the ladies. Not sure they knew that it was going to blow up like that. But nylon rope was the death knell of hemp production.
 

too larry

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Now Now.... Larry Cocaine is a plant found only in South America, Egyptian rope makers yes coke ..no

however Coke was a popular past time with many 'rich' anthropologists back in the 1920's ..lol
I saw a story on it on PBS, so it has to be true, right? And that was my point. The mummies tested for coke in their preserved body parts, so they had to trade with South America.
 

Gquebed

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I saw the same show. Its not fact...its all theory...but theyre not entirely sure that what they found was cocaine in those mummies...
 
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