High yield, Fast flowering, Good Scrog traits and Potent.

Hey guys being on the market for seeds has been tremendous amounts of fun. I have been reading so much, but I feel that I have read around enough to really confuse me.

I don't care if it is Indica or Sativa. A white or dark strain. My setup is quite small 2x2 for veg and 4x2 flowering.

So I wanna pick a strain that has the following qualities and I am really hoping that my bros could give me some feedback and lead in the right direction.

High Yield
Fast Flowering
Good for Screen of Green style growing
Last but not least it should be fairly potent

I have at least decided via reading on RIU that attitude will be where I will get my beans from.

Of Course the Cheaper the better but if 20-30 extra dollars are really gonna make a positive difference in the traits of the plant then I am willing to spend it.

Thanks

i don't know about attitude's version of trainwreck, but the one i'm growing is the fastest growing, easiest to train, badassed sonofabitch that i've ever grown. i don't even need to mention the high

phreakygoat said:

i don't know about attitude's version of trainwreck, but the one i'm growing is the fastest growing, easiest to train, badassed sonofabitch that i've ever grown. i don't even need to mention the high

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attitude sells seeds from all kinds of bank. which seed bank is your train wreck from.♠

shit its from clone, i'll ask the guy that got the original seed.

bender420 said:

attitude sells seeds from all kinds of bank. which seed bank is your train wreck from.♠

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attitude is a SEEDBANK that sells seeds by alot of BREEDERS..


Blue Venom is a fast flowering indica with a good stone.. stays short when topped and a good yield and stone.

Black Domina from Sensi Seeds, Chronic from Serious Seeds, Maple Leaf from Sensi Seeds.

that trainwreck is from greenhouse feminized seeds.

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that trainwreck is from greenhouse feminized seeds.

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Thanks mate, for right now I am steering clear of feminized.

How about Medicine Man from Mr Nice Guy.

http://www.cannabis-seeds-bank.co.uk/mr-nice-medicine-man/prod_1235.html

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"Of Course the Cheaper the better": Bender this first strain would be better for a sog than a scrog. It isn't cheap but it's worth mentioning.

Endless Sky - Dr Greenthumb: very potent indica stone, 6 weeks flower, 500 g/m2 sog.

http://www.drgreenthumb.com/cannabis...dsEntrance.htm

http://www.seedbankupdate.com/su.html

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Think about two strains to compliment each other if you can afford it. From Attitude two good strains:

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White Widow - Seedsman: 8 weeds, good yield, incredible high.

http://www.cannabis-seeds-bank.co.u...eedsman-seeds-white-widow-seeds/prod_313.html

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Black Widow - Mr Nice: a bit longer flower advertised than Seedsman, more on the indica side of Seedsman's sativa high. The original White Widow.

http://www.cannabis-seeds-bank.co.uk/mr-nice-black-widow/prod_1220.html

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Something by TGA - lots of potent, short flowering strians. Look at Jack The Ripper (most Potent), Jillybean (euphoric high and tastes like Dreamcicles) or Querkel (grape and will tear your head off). All about 8 weeks and potent.

http://www.cannabis-seeds-bank.co.uk/tga-subcool-seeds/cat_125.html

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I've got a Serious Bubblegum and Kali Mist in ccob grows, like scrog with no screen The Bubblegum grows amazingly well in CCOB but maybe not the type of potency you want. Kali Mist takes 14+ weeks. I just harvested 4 Super Strawberry Diesel that grew very well CCOB but the breeder I bought from is out of business and I don't know who else to recomend. Flo is another short flowering strain that sets up well in ccob.

Here's some pics of some of those strains, some ccob.

https://www.rollitup.org/seed-strain-reviews/211186-pics-my-garden-ssd-km.html

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That seems like an excellent strain, however the breeders mention that yield for SOG. I am going for SCROG so I could stay under the legal limit. And the price seems really high for me.

wonder woman

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How 'bout (Texada Timewarp X Blueberry) or (TT X Skunk) from PeakSeedsBC. TT is a west coast Canada commercial strain that grows to 12' outdoors in Canada's short growing season. Short flowering. The blueberry will bring down the height, and indoors not so tall as well, but you'll get your screen filled quickly and the plant flowers quickly too.

I smoked TT years ago when I was living in the Rockies, hands down the most potent weed I've ever had.

$40 USD or $30 CAD, delivery included. 4 stars on Greenman's page. I have 4 of their strains, very stable.

http://www.peakseedsbc.com/seeds.htm

http://www.seedbankupdate.com/su.html

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Two other options to look at are Serious Seeds AK47 and Chronic. AK47 is Rocket fuel, 9 weeks flower, good yield, stinks. Chronic is Serious' biggest yielder, around the same flower as AK47, I've read reviews putting it's high above White Widow.

http://www.cannabis-seeds-bank.co.uk/serious-seeds/cat_6.html

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Hobbes said:

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"Of Course the Cheaper the better": Bender this first strain would be better for a sog than a scrog. It isn't cheap but it's worth mentioning.

Endless Sky - Dr Greenthumb: very potent indica stone, 6 weeks flower, 500 g/m2 sog.

http://www.drgreenthumb.com/cannabis...dsEntrance.htm

http://www.seedbankupdate.com/su.html

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Think about two strains to compliment each other if you can afford it. From Attitude two good strains:

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White Widow - Seedsman: 8 weeds, good yield, incredible high.

http://www.cannabis-seeds-bank.co.u...eedsman-seeds-white-widow-seeds/prod_313.html

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Black Widow - Mr Nice: a bit longer flower advertised than Seedsman, more on the indica side of Seedsman's sativa high. The original White Widow.

http://www.cannabis-seeds-bank.co.uk/mr-nice-black-widow/prod_1220.html

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Something by TGA - lots of potent, short flowering strians. Look at Jack The Ripper (most Potent), Jillybean (euphoric high and tastes like Dreamcicles) or Querkel (grape and will tear your head off). All about 8 weeks and potent.

http://www.cannabis-seeds-bank.co.uk/tga-subcool-seeds/cat_125.html

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I've got a Serious Bubblegum and Kali Mist in ccob grows, like scrog with no screen The Bubblegum grows amazingly well in CCOB but maybe not the type of potency you want. Kali Mist takes 14+ weeks. I just harvested 4 Super Strawberry Diesel that grew very well CCOB but the breeder I bought from is out of business and I don't know who else to recomend. Flo is another short flowering strain that sets up well in ccob.

Here's some pics of some of those strains, some ccob.

https://www.rollitup.org/seed-strain-reviews/211186-pics-my-garden-ssd-km.html

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I must admit you really got me thinking about endless sky. It looks fantastic, it has every trait i want in my plant except the screen of green.

But I am thinking if I top them in middle of veg i got get 2-3 large colas so I can reduce the number or plants.

Right now I am almost certain that this is what I will be getting.

How reliable is Dr. Greenthumb for shipping to USA (California).

Hobbes, thank you so much for your time and effort in helping me out.

I have my pin stuck on endless sky, it seems to be the quickest, relatively potent and highest yielder out of all the ones u mentioned. If that is correct then an extra 100 dollars wont make much difference in the long run.

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"How reliable is Dr. Greenthumb for shipping to USA (California)."

Very, as good as anyone. He's been shipping world wide for years, stealth isn't a problem. He promises to re ship if the first set of seeds don't arrive. Use a money order and postal tracking if you can.

"I have my pin stuck on endless sky, it seems to be the quickest, relatively potent and highest yielder out of all the ones u mentioned. If that is correct then an extra 100 dollars wont make much difference in the long run."

From all of the reviews I've read on Endless Sky, my experience with Big Laughing and dealing with Greenthumb - I think you'll be happy. And no, the $100 won't matter in the end, especially with the speed and potency. You can do 3 harvests with this strain where you'd do 2 with AK47.

" relatively potent"

Most of the reviews I read rate this as one of, if not the, most potent indica stones the reviewer has had. It's on my list when I want a heavy stone.

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Hobbes said:

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"How reliable is Dr. Greenthumb for shipping to USA (California)."

Very, as good as anyone. He's been shipping world wide for years, stealth isn't a problem. He promises to re ship if the first set of seeds don't arrive. Use a money order and postal tracking if you can.

"I have my pin stuck on endless sky, it seems to be the quickest, relatively potent and highest yielder out of all the ones u mentioned. If that is correct then an extra 100 dollars wont make much difference in the long run."

From all of the reviews I've read on Endless Sky, my experience with Big Laughing and dealing with Greenthumb - I think you'll be happy. And no, the $100 won't matter in the end, especially with the speed and potency. You can do 3 harvests with this strain where you'd do 2 with AK47.

" relatively potent"

Most of the reviews I read rate this as one of, if not the, most potent indica stones the reviewer has had. It's on my list when I want a heavy stone.

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Thanks Hobbes, I had actually already placed an order with attitude for DNA Genetics - Chocolope and Nirvana AK-48. I did go a head and emailed attitude to cancel my order, because I think I will be happier with the endless sky.

Hobbes do you think it would be possible to top the plants in veg to get a few large colas per plant instead of one.

Also do you not recommend using a credit card with Dr. Greenthumb since that will be the fastest.

I have been reading on this strain and people are getting ~3 phenos and the flowering time seems to be average 8 weeks one guy even took 9-10 weeks. How would I pick the best pheno.

AK-48 flowers in 48 days that seems much faster, also the AK won't really require veg or at least it will be a very short veg.

is this correct?

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"people are getting ~3 phenos"

This is common with a lot of strains. People flower out a pack of Blueberry looking for that fruity tasting, good potency, good yield pheno. A lot of Blueberry plants from seed will be garbage, even from DJ Short.

Bubblegum on the other hand is an In Bred Line (IBL) and each plant from seed could be a twin in looks, effect and growing style. I have 3 distinct Super Strawberry Diesel phenos, different in appearance, growing time, taste and type of high. And I've kept a mother for each.

You don't get the most of a strain by growing it always from seed. Germinate seeds to pick the pheno that you want, then clone the hell out of that pheno. From what I've been reading there's a 6 week knock out potent pheno in most packs of seeds, the first time you flower from seed you're not going to get that pheno every plant.

Sensi bred Jack Herer to have 4 phenos, their Jack Flash feminized version has only 2.

If you cannot clone because of legal reasons (learn otherwise, it's simple) then an IBL or very stable strains, like from Serious Seeds, would be best.

"and the flowering time seems to be average 8 weeks one guy even took 9-10 weeks."

The average is what gets you. They may have one 6 or 7 week pheno and the rest 11 weeks. Average 10. But the next time around all of the 6 week pheno's clones will finish in 6 weeks, with a 6 week average for the garden.


"How would I pick the best pheno. "

1. Take a clone for each plant, to be kept as a mother.
2. Label the clone and mother!!! (strain, plant #, dates: germination, veg, flower, cure)
3. Don't forget to label the clone and mother!
4. Grow out each plant and keep notes, mental or otherwise.
5. Harvest and label the bud so you know which plant it's from.
6. Label the plants from seed and clones, and the harvested bud. This is worthless otherwise.

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"AK-48 flowers in 48 days that seems much faster, also the AK won't really require veg or at least it will be a very short veg."

48 is Nirvana's knock off of Serious' 47. It's an indica stone, and while it may or may not be any good the purpose of naming was to ride on AK47's coat tails. If you're going to do AK do yourself a favor and grow Serious', it'll grow fast and fill your screen and when it harvets you know what you're getting.

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These 4 Super Strawberry Diesel were all germinated on the same day and are all from the same seed package, just 3 distinct phenos.

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18" colas, loose buds, strawberry


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10" colas, big buds, mild taste


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6" colas, tight solid buds, diesel


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