High PH signs, symptoms and correcting...Pictorial!! A must read for newb'z

tikitoker

tikitoker

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dubcoastOGs said:
tiki. I think the general consensus (at least from our side of the table) is that Ph adjusting your nutrient regime, or plain water, can actually do more harm than good. I think alot, depends on what your using to adjust ph. not talking soil ammendments here, just the water going in. It's better to let the soil adjust it, than to force it with things like potassium hydroxide, or soidum bisulfate, or even vinegar. It's just not neccessary. That's all we're trying to say here. nobody ever. aid ph is non-important. I feel like you knew that though.
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Understandable. However in my experience if the plant is vigorous and environmental conditions are dialed in the demand of nutrients across the board will be in high need. Watering frequency and volume is also a factor in the ph and nutrient absorption. I understand that not all growers have funds to get automated equipment but we all preach optimal. Right?! So when in optimal conditions consistency is key to success. Consistency being the constant direct influence of the grower. If the water that feeds or just hydrates the soil does have an influence on the chemical and biological reaction within the soil. Urea has to be broken down, thus feeding more bacteria and lowering the ph. Along with consistency also is stability. And stability is what guarantees success. If my chemical/biological reaction is on the alkaline side 1. And will inevitably continue to do so( lets say in flower where a higher ph would be preferred for p and k), why on earth would you knowingly dose fertilizer with an alkaline base. That's add to the rise in ph and further depreciate the range in which micro nutrients and Nitrogen are available. Lack of or should I say lockout of Nitrogen will cause a magnesium deficiency and further slow growth. Thus in conclusion adjusting /stabilizing ph prior to administering is essential for success.
 
dubcoastOGs

dubcoastOGs

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wow man. for the first time in this thread. I really don't even know how to respond.

I love you brother. goodluck!
 
Alexander Supertramp

Alexander Supertramp

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tikitoker said:
Collect rain water and ph it. Its not 7
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http://www.epa.gov/region1/eco/acidrain/intro.html


No its not. It actually averages between 4.0-6.0 depending on the region. And plants in nature grow just fine because why? The buffering ability of the soil. And us farmers pump water from ponds and creeks that usually are in the 7.5-8.8 range. And again our crops grow just fine and why? You got it, the buffering ability of the soil.
 
pSi007

pSi007

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dubcoastOGs said:
allright pSi, it's time for you to leave. Nobody needs a mediator here.
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you keep calling people idiots and flaming other members with results and opinions, you are harassing people.. it seems you do need a mediator or else you will runn off the other RIU members who wish to collect ideas in a rational fashion.
 
pSi007

pSi007

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Alexander Supertramp said:
And us farmers pump water from ponds and creeks that usually are in the 7.5-8.8 range. And again our crops grow just fine and why? You got it, the buffering ability of the soil.
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agricultural additives are commonly used.. I live in a large agricultural area of Northern California, the farmers usually burn the last-year crops and add additives to sweeten the soil for crops.
 
pSi007

pSi007

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lol... its the fact that they are harassing people and resulting to childish name calling.. adults do not wish to read their garbage. I am smiling and relaxing.. nice post alien, i will remember parts of it for my creative writing classes as well as debate.

;)
 
Alexander Supertramp

Alexander Supertramp

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pSi007 said:
agricultural additives are commonly used.. I live in a large agricultural area of Northern California, the farmers usually burn the last-year crops and add additives to sweeten the soil for crops.
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Yeah we usually need to add lime but not on a yearly bases. Every 3 to 4 years depending on the crop/soil/fertilizers used. Clear burning is used yes...but probably not for the reasons you are thinking. But rather to speed the decomposition, via fire, of the organic matter that remains after harvest. Has very little to do with controlling the soils pH.
 
pSi007

pSi007

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Alexander Supertramp said:
Yeah we usually need to add lime but not on a yearly bases. Every 3 to 4 years depending on the crop/soil/fertilizers used. The burning of crop is used but probably not for the reasons you are thinking. But rather to speed the decomposition, via fire, of the organic matter that remains after harvest. Has very little to do with controlling the soils pH.
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actually the soil for many places in the USA is VERY different... What is the pH and soil elements you are locally confined to and the basic regional range in which you are planting?

here is a basic pH chart of the world, via wiki.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soil_pH
 
Alexander Supertramp

Alexander Supertramp

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Colorful charts stoners love and live by. Sucks to be them. If they would actually read the text they may change their minds.


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AimAim

AimAim

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pSi007 said:
actually the soil for many places in the USA is VERY different... What is the pH and soil elements you are locally confined to and the basic regional range in which you are planting? here is a basic pH chart of the world, via wiki.
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Wow. Anyone wanting to know their soil pH can just look at this map. How convenient.

But.. but... but wait ..... The soil behind my house on a level prairie soil, which I farm upon, runs 7.2 ish. Across the road in the river bottom it's around 5.9 ish. HOW can this be???

You are actually not in over your head, you are running around the wading pool making noise and annoying the adults.

A clue. Go get one.
 
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