The coco medium can hold a lot of water. In the late afternoon the sun sits on the whole plant and the pot so the medium gets warm and may evaporate a bit of water. But because its such a free draining mixture you don't really have to worry about over watering. I really recommend using this medium it's great. The only problem is I reintroduced the nutes again and they look like they've burned again. So I'm going to dilute my mixture a bit and do it only twice a week now.
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They are supposed to be a 80% sativa 20% indica mix. G13 Skunk. It was the free seed i got when I ordered some better ones. They are slow growing in comparison to other seeds but I just didn't have anything else to grow with so I'm using them. There is something about them though that they rot and get weird holes in them that makes the leaf fall off. I don't know why but I REALLY NEED YOUR HELP TO FIX IT!!!
What do you guys think?
What do you guys think?
ErroneousRex
Member
Ok so, from the looks of it you are using straight coco coir. Which isn't really a problem, however, sometimes if you don't mix it perlite or something similar the drainage is less than desirable. If drainage is no bueno and the pH of your water is a little high (like 7 and up) it can begin to harbor microorganisms, and not the good kind. Often, certain fungal infections of plants can look like nutrient burn. So, my suggestions are to transplant to a medium with more drainage or simply a 50/50 mixture of coir and perlite. Furthermore, adjust the pH of your water to around 5.5 every time you water.
darkdestruction420
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ok, i should of said "thats what I think im seeing based on the info ive gotten." .plus i was right if you read down 2 posts after yours. and the nuteburn guess was from the fact he was giving full strength 3 times a week, that seems like alot to me for his plants size and all that.
Maj. Problem
Member
OK. Here is the post you are referring to:
It is from the OP who was here asking for advice and input as to what was wrong and you are using his opinion to validate yours. That's a humorous technique.
These forums are so full of ill advice. It makes me sick to think of how many potential growers are being discouraged due to the poor advice given here at times. The Newb to Experienced Grower posting ratio here is more than askew unfortunately.
I completely respect and thank the individuals who share their previous experiences and hard earned knowledge but when you have a bunch of newbs chasing +Rep and throwing their inexperienced "i saw it on a chart" approach, then you get s thread just like this.
ErroneousRex, thank you for that moment of clarity. +Rep to you for some relevant advice.
Those who were so quick to say overwatering should not smoke while attempting to "help" others with their grows.
darkdestruction420
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you dont understand any of this, you keep taking things the wrong way and jumping to conclusions and being a dick so im done w/talking to you.... the op asked whats wtong and we tried to help, you know its not nuteburn or ph?
Maj. Problem
Member
My understanding of "this" is actually quite clear and my communication has been articulate without any childish name calling. Can you say the same in regards to your actions? And which conclusion did I jump to exactly? Are you this hostile with everyone who disagrees with you or just in online forums? You are obviously upset that I saw humor in your "plus i was right" post.Your requirements for validation of facts is just different than mine and its no reason to get upset and act out. I am completely fine with having an intelligent discussion of how to help the OP if you can control your behavior.
Anyways.......
For anyone to suggest that an outdoor coco grow is being over watered is ridiculous. To attempt a diagnosis with so little info from the OP is foolish but typical unfortunately.
Nope, I don't and neither do you or anyone else in this thread.
Coco has its own unique set of problems and the only one to even come close to addressing them was ErroneousRex. Everyone else was just stabbing in the dark. It could be nute burn but the lower tips are just barely turning brown which most people who push their feeding schedules will usually have the same. It could be so simple as the OP spilling or splashing solution on the leaves. It could be any number of other issues as well but I wouldn't risk guessing and screwing up his plants just for the sake of appearing to be knowledgeable.
To the OP I would start with the following questions before offering any advice.
What brand of coco peat are you using and how did you hydrate it?
What are your nutes and feeding regimen?
What is your water pH and how do you test it?
Where does your water come from?
What brand of coco peat are you using and how did you hydrate it?
I bought it in a bag. It's like just grinded coconut shells. It came dry so did not need to be expanded from a brick or anything like that. It's called Sri Lankan Coco.
What are your nutes and feeding regimen?
Nutes are the stuff in the pic.
Using 5 ml of both A and B mixed with a liter of water, then 5-10ml of the purple one too. The purple one wreaks like ass. The guy at the hydro store said its essentially compost liquid.
I feed them approx twice a week, so they each would get 500mil of nutrient poured over the medium with a bit of water afterwards.
What is your water pH and how do you test it?
I don't test it to tell the truth. There are over 8 million people in my city drinking from one water supply, the water is good.
Where does your water come from?
Tap. Local water is good here.
I noticed some mites on them this morning so gave them a quick spray with some natural pesticides.
Should I be using the purple one at all? Is this the right watering scheme? I'm literally doing exactly what the guy at the store said. It's growing well, but I think with your guys help could be better!
I bought it in a bag. It's like just grinded coconut shells. It came dry so did not need to be expanded from a brick or anything like that. It's called Sri Lankan Coco.
What are your nutes and feeding regimen?
Nutes are the stuff in the pic.
Using 5 ml of both A and B mixed with a liter of water, then 5-10ml of the purple one too. The purple one wreaks like ass. The guy at the hydro store said its essentially compost liquid.
I feed them approx twice a week, so they each would get 500mil of nutrient poured over the medium with a bit of water afterwards.
What is your water pH and how do you test it?
I don't test it to tell the truth. There are over 8 million people in my city drinking from one water supply, the water is good.
Where does your water come from?
Tap. Local water is good here.
I noticed some mites on them this morning so gave them a quick spray with some natural pesticides.
Should I be using the purple one at all? Is this the right watering scheme? I'm literally doing exactly what the guy at the store said. It's growing well, but I think with your guys help could be better!
ErroneousRex
Member
Thanks Major I was just tryin to show that its rarely as simple as over-watering or anything like that. Problems are usually compound and bad advice spreads like the plague on the web but we may be getting closer. Ok so here's what I think, tap water is ok but is usually chlorinated and carries a high ph also there is a lot of dissolved minerals in the tap so sometimes your nutes need to be adjusted accordingly. Unless they were designed for tap of course. So if you can invest in some tools to measure your ph an tds do it. Otherwise maybe try switching to distilled water. How is the insect problem faring?
mcwilliams333
Active Member
I think major dick scared everyone that was helping you away.
But on the plus side I think your plants look good!
mcwilliams333
Active Member
Sometimes it is as simple as overwatering and "anything like that". To diagnose a problem you should start simple and eliminate problems. Like start with more time between watering, that doesn't work dilute the nutes, that doesn't work test ph. Why send him out to buy a ph tester when the problem might have been solved by watering down the nutes.
And coming down on destruction becuz he said they looked like they would be tall and suggesting lst or topping is dumb. I wish someone had taken the time to give me advice on my first grow.
Insects gone care of natural insecticide.
I'm going to have to move them indoors now I'm getting a bit paranoid with how big theyre getting.
I think it may have been over watering so I'm going to back off on the watering a bit too.
Had a lot of leaves fall off stems they're both looking very skinny.
I'm going to have to move them indoors now I'm getting a bit paranoid with how big theyre getting.
I think it may have been over watering so I'm going to back off on the watering a bit too.
Had a lot of leaves fall off stems they're both looking very skinny.
WheresWaldosBUD
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this is going to my first outdoor grow and i have 97 seeds. I'll appreciate all the help i could get or just come by and check my grow journal out and subscribe. see how everything turns out for my gorilla grow!
DONT YOU DARE FUCKING POST THIS HOGWASH IN MY THREAD!!! THIS IS MY FUCKING THREAD!!
Now for an update on my grow.
Dem babbys are sitting in my closet under a 18watt cfl light like 18 hours a day. pretty sad really havent been able to get any lights yet and they grew too tall to be outside any longer.
ErroneousRex
Member
dang dude. hope you get them some more light soon! Did they start to show sex from being outside in the short days so long?
Yeh theyre both female. Going to give them a 400 watt in the next couple of days should be pretty sweet. but theyve been totally ridden with caterpillars and spider mites. i always knew it had them but i ordered some ladybugs off the net and hav released them so i hope they come in a kick some spidermite ass!
Higher Education
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Gary, be really careful with hydro nutes in coco. Coco is notorious for holding salts, and sometimes a cannabis plant, especially a sativa dominant, can hold more salt than it needs and not show any negative signs. Harvest and drying time comes around, the next thing you know, you buds taste like a household cleaning product and spark and crackle when you burn them. I lost 6 ounces like this off of a Hawaiian Snow and a Lemon Skunk, I used Advanced Nutrients in Foxfarm's Ocean Forrest soil, and fed them less often than you are feeding now. I will never use hydronutes in soil or even a semi-hydro medium again. Not trying to tell you what to do, just a fair warning. I want your buds to taste as good as they look. 
Did you flush them properly for the last week or more? Maybe they needed to be flushed longer...Gary, be really careful with hydro nutes in coco. Coco is notorious for holding salts, and sometimes a cannabis plant, especially a sativa dominant, can hold more salt than it needs and not show any negative signs. Harvest and drying time comes around, the next thing you know, you buds taste like a household cleaning product and spark and crackle when you burn them. I lost 6 ounces like this off of a Hawaiian Snow and a Lemon Skunk, I used Advanced Nutrients in Foxfarm's Ocean Forrest soil, and fed them less often than you are feeding now. I will never use hydronutes in soil or even a semi-hydro medium again. Not trying to tell you what to do, just a fair warning. I want your buds to taste as good as they look.
Anyway those ones are pretty much dead now they've been in my closet for around a month without light. They've kind of gone light yellow or brown depending on the part of the plant.
I've got a 600w cool tube in a grow tent now so I think I'm going to cut up the plants and throw them out and start again with the new seeds I bought.
Let you know how it goes.