Hermies

joedirt420

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Ok so i have heard two different things with regards to hermies. First i've heard that if a hermie pollinates its self, all the seeds will be female. But then i have also heard that if it pollinates it self, most of the seeds will be hermies. Does anyone know what the truth on the matter is?

Thanks
 

bubblerking

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Ok so i have heard two different things with regards to hermies. First i've heard that if a hermie pollinates its self, all the seeds will be female. But then i have also heard that if it pollinates it self, most of the seeds will be hermies. Does anyone know what the truth on the matter is?

Thanks
hermies make hermies sorry
 

wafflehouselover

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there is also science behind it. If it was that easy then we'll see femenize seeds everywhere in every strain shutting down the market for regular seeds.
 

bubblerking

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I think you can give a female plant birth control pills and the plant will produce all female seeds ive heard of some breeders doing this with good results but i personally havent tryed this
 

joedirt420

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The reason i ask this question is because i was reading an article about creating fem seeds and it said there are two ways to create fem seeds. One way was to give the plant some kind of chemical, a type of acid i believe and the other was to interrupt the 12hr dark cycle. I guess maybe the article i was reading was not accurate according to the responses i have received. Does anyone have any how to articles in creating fem seeds? Has anyone actually planted seeds from a hermie and grown them to flower to see if they actually turn out to be hermie.
 

joedirt420

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Here is one article i found. Is there any truth to the "male banana" pollen pods.


Creating feminized seeds is an art, there are a few different methods of application. I have written about some of my different methods of making seeds in previous HIGH TIMES articles. I have use gibberellic acid, light stress, ph stress, and fertilizer stress to force my plants to make seeds. All these methods are harsh on the plants, and some like the gibbrellic acid, are not organic. In my search for cleaner more earth-friendly ways of working with the cannabis plant, I have found a new way to make feminized seeds.

Feminized seeds occur as a result of stress, other than genetics. All cannabis plants can and will make male flowers under stress. Certain strains like a higher PH, some like a lower one. Some like a lot of food, some like a lot less. There is quite a lot of variety in marijuana genetics, and you can’t treat every plant the same way.

It takes many harvests before you really get to know a particular strain. Just like getting to know human friends, it takes time. I have grown strains for a decade and am truly getting to know every nuance the different plants exhibit. I can recognize them from a distance. I must say that I get a lot of help from my friends, both in making seeds and learning new and better ways of working with this sacred plant.

I named this new method “Rodelization” after a friend who helped me realize and make use of this way of creating female seeds. After growing crop after crop of the same plant in the same conditions, I noticed that if I flowered the plants 10-14 days longer than usual, they would develop male “bananas”. A male banana is a very slight male flower on a female marijuana plant that is formed because of stress. Usually they do not let out any pollen early enough to make seeds, but they sometimes do. They are a built in safety factor so in case of sever conditions, the plant can make sure that the species is furthered.

To me a male banana is quite a beautiful thing. It has the potential of making all female seeds. Many growers out there have male banana phobia. They see one and have heart palpitations, they want to cut down the entire crop or at least take tweezers and pluck the little yellow emerging devices out. I call them “Emergency Devices” because they emerge at times of stress.

In the Rodelization method, the male banana is very valuable. After growing your female plant 10-14 days longer than usual, hang them up to dry, then carefully take them off the drying lines and inspect for bananas. Each and every banana should be removed and placed in a small bag labeled very accurately. These sealed bags can be placed in the fridge for one to two months and still remain potent.

For the second phase you need to already have a crop that’s already 2 ½ weeks into flowering. Take your sealed bag of pollen out of the fridge, and proceed to impregnate your new crop of females. To do this, you must first match the female plant and the pollen from the same strain in the previous crop. Shut down all the fans in the grow room. Then take a very fine paint brush, dip it in the bag of pollen, and paint it on the female flower. Do this to each different strain you have growing together. I have done it with ten different kinds in the same room with great success.

I use the lower flowers to make seeds, leaving the top colas seedless for smoking. This method takes time(two crops), but is completely organic and lets you have great quality smoke at the same time you make your female seeds. If you’re one of those growers that has never grown seeds for fear of not having something good to smoke, you will love this method.

You can also use this pollen to make new female crosses by cross pollinating. The older females with the bananas can be brought into the room with the younger, un-pollinated females when they are three weeks into flowering. Turn all of the circulation fans on high, and the little bits of pollen will proceed to make it around the room. Do this for several days. Six to seven weeks later you will have ripe 100% female seeds; not nearly as many as a male plant would make, but enough to start over somewhere else with the same genetics.

As a farmer who has been forced to move his genetics far away from where they started, I know very well the value of seeds. My friend Adam from THSeeds in Amsterdam has a motto that I love to borrow these days: “Drop seeds not bombs”.
 

joedirt420

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Anyone know if there is any truth to this article? Can anyone tell me the process for producing fem seeds?
Thanks
 

joedirt420

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Any experts know how to create fem seeds? Is there any truth to the article i posted? Some help would be appreciated.
 

star

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help any answers first time grower my plants were fine but last week would been five weeks into flowering. they all had white hairs everywhere!! and no balls!! and now i have seeds all seeds no buds these plants where big beatiful. thanks star1
 

Hobbes

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"First i've heard that if a hermie pollinates its self, all the seeds will be female. But then i have also heard that if it pollinates it self, most of the seeds will be hermies."

It depends on why it hermies.

If the genetics are poor the plant may hermie without excessive stress, so every grow you'll get bananas regardless of your growing skill and how well you grow the plants. This pollen will produce S1s but is not good for breeding unless the breeder is going to breed out the natural hermaphrodism while keeping special characteristics from the plant. Advanced breeding.

If the genetics are good and the plant would not hermie under normal growing conditions then the plant must be stressed somehow to make it produce male flowers. Breeders will often feed the plant colloidal silver to produce bananas, some will use light stress (interrupted dark cycle). This pollen is good for breeding S1s (Self pollenated, 1st generation - seeds will produce all female plants.)

Unpollenated female plants will also naturally produce bananas late in flower in a last ditch effort to reproduce. This pollen is good for breeding S1s.

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That being said, a few of us have been tracking feminized seeds, looking for hermieing trends. An S1 will have slightly less stable characteristics than the parent, one of those characteristics is sexual stability. I've flowered 3 feminized strains and have 2 more in veg, a few more in the wings waiting for a space in the garden to open up. In the thread from the following link we're looking for ways to prevent or stop hermaphrodism, and which breeders/strains are prone to hermieing - focusing on feminized strains:

https://www.rollitup.org/seed-strain-reviews/182247-feminized-seeds-hermie-test-14-a.html

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note: I've read that by the 3rd or 4th generation of Self Pollenating (S3, S4) the plants are so unstable that they're useless for our needs.

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bongsmilie
 

cee

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I stressed my female by trying to re-veg it and now have been flowering for a long time to try to get lower trichomes to go more amber to match the top...seems as a result of this plant abuse about 3 buds just below main cola have got the little seeds at the end (two or three, one big one) which I clipped off. Buds are healthy so I was planning on cutting the top off-which is now ready-and leaving the rest a couple more weeks. If your plant started to grow lots of seeds it sounds like it went full hermie for some reason?? I would chop it then if it is not flowering anymore and start again..sorry, good luck to you..:peace:
 
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