Hermie? Also twisty tips of leaves?

koolkev2249

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20190210_100724.jpg 20190206_105803.jpg 20190210_100712.jpg 20190206_111238.jpg I have 2 Northern Haze express autos. One started growing strange at the start of flower. Weird twisty tips, the main bud acts like any other low level branch. The other is flowering nice, praying to the light, and stacking nicely. This one is not, Im pretty new to all this does anyone see "bananas" on these buds? Or can anyone explain twisty tips, they feel soft and healthy?
For reference I posted a picture of my garden, the front left corner and the back left corner are both Northern Haze express. (Back left is purple cheese, front middle auto assasin, front right GSC vegging)
 
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hawse

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Hmm, no I don't see any nanners at all, but the pics would probably need to be close up... To me that looks more like heat stress... In general, the strain I do grow that likes to make nanners usually doesn't make them this soon.. Could possibly be some kind of ph/lockout issue... What are you feeding them? Are you checking PPMs and PH?
 
Kingrow1

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I dont ph in soil as a hard and fast rule.

Your plants look great so far, who can tell why leaves twist or such but ultimately it will lead back to moisture stress at that point. You can induce heat stress in smaller pots quicker than big etc etc. Any way minor ramblings ya just got to keep observing till you find the obvious fix.

Try to ignore the whole hermie hype, nannas happen and all too infrequent when stress is involved. The trick is to tweezer of any visable nana and pick out seeds from the bud after harvest.

Hope that helps and thats a nice strain not the easiest so congrats :-)
 
Where’sthecurve

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Picture 4. under the main bud in picture, the stem below with stalk coming out left and right has something starting there at the junction. Could be nanners but pic nee to be closer and not focus on the bud.
 
xtsho

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I don't see anything in those pictures other than a female plant.

For the record, a Hermaphrodite exhibits both male and female sex. A plant throwing banana's is not a hermie. A plant with both flowers and pollen sacs is a hermie. I'll post a picture as an example. This is a true Hermaphrodite as it has male pollen sacs and female flowers. It also has banana's. What makes it a Hermaphrodite is not the banana's but the complete male and female parts. Your plant looks 100% female.

 
koolkev2249

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Shes only ever been fed 1 serving of bio live veg and 1 of bio live bloom. im pretty sure ph lockout is the answer when. This is my first grow I started with tap water that ran high at 7.4ph. I now use prefiltered water that runs about 6.5ph shes looked healthier every since. My main concern was I am going on a trip for 10 days and dont want my other girls to get pollinated. Ill post pictures of her sister soon. Thanks a ton everyone
 
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The only difference is she had less soil and I sprayed carbonated water on her leaves daily to see the difference. The main difference was the leaves size because carbonated water really made the leaves get huge during veg. The unhealthy plant was always bigger and healthier until bloom started.
 

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Kingrow1

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xtsho said:
I don't see anything in those pictures other than a female plant.

For the record, a Hermaphrodite exhibits both male and female sex. A plant throwing banana's is not a hermie. A plant with both flowers and pollen sacs is a hermie. I'll post a picture as an example. This is a true Hermaphrodite as it has male pollen sacs and female flowers. It also has banana's. What makes it a Hermaphrodite is not the banana's but the complete male and female parts. Your plant looks 100% female.

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I would like to disagree but i forget the science of why some plants make an imperfect male organ (probably female too) as oppose to the fully formed one, the example here being the nanna and the whole sac.

You have made reference, i believe, to the nanna not genetically being of a different genetic group 'Hermie burnetalium' but the pollen sac being this latter Hermie b. genetic group.

I think in this case the claim deserves at least an answer to the first of my observations in that you could provide a better answer to why we see a nana not the full pollen sac in the first instance.

:-)
 
BudmanTX

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Kingrow1 said:
I would like to disagree but i forget the science of why some plants make an imperfect male organ (probably female too) as oppose to the fully formed one, the example here being the nanna and the whole sac.

You have made reference, i believe, to the nanna not genetically being of a different genetic group 'Hermie burnetalium' but the pollen sac being this latter Hermie b. genetic group.

I think in this case the claim deserves at least an answer to the first of my observations in that you could provide a better answer to why we see a nana not the full pollen sac in the first instance.

:-)
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like to see where u got the word "hermie bernetalium" and also the reference of Hermie B as well......

most that go that way is called Rodelization
 
Kingrow1

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BudmanTX said:
like to see where u got the word "hermie bernetalium" and also the reference of Hermie B as well......

most that go that way is called Rodelization
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I made up the Burnetalium.... is that not obvious.

Also instead of bringing that up what about finding the scientific reasom a plant makes a nana not a proper ball for this thread and save me some google time tonight since i havent been able to get much bud porn time in :-)
 
BudmanTX

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Kingrow1 said:
I made up the Burnetalium.... is that not obvious.

Also instead of bringing that up what about finding the scientific reasom a plant makes a nana not a proper ball for this thread and save me some google time tonight since i havent been able to get much bud porn time in :-)
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that's what i thought......at first i saw that i went...
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xtsho

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Kingrow1 said:
I made up the Burnetalium.... is that not obvious.

Also instead of bringing that up what about finding the scientific reasom a plant makes a nana not a proper ball for this thread and save me some google time tonight since i havent been able to get much bud porn time in :-)
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I caught it and laughed. Obvious. Sounded like a planet in a Star Trek movie.

What I was trying to say was a few banana's doesn't make a plant a hermie. Those banana's will produce pollen that will make feminized seed. They lack the male chromosome. So they are not true male reproductive parts.

I'm not an expert in plant biology but maybe someone is. If so maybe they could enlighten myself and others with actual scientific data.
 
hawse

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Point is, regardless, that full blown hermies like that are pretty rare I think. Having a plant throw a nanner or two can be fairly normal. It's not uncommon for some strains I have to get at least one or two seeds every run. Doesn't ruin anything, and I get a free fem seed out of it...

In fact in my current grow is the result of a plant throwing a handful of nanners and cross pollinating. The resulting fem seeds don't have any nanners in sight and they look and smell fantastic! And I got 10 -15 feminized seeds out of it... :)
 
xtsho

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hawse said:
Point is, regardless, that full blown hermies like that are pretty rare I think. Having a plant throw a nanner or two can be fairly normal. It's not uncommon for some strains I have to get at least one or two seeds every run. Doesn't ruin anything, and I get a free fem seed out of it...

In fact in my current grow is the result of a plant throwing a handful of nanners and cross pollinating. The resulting fem seeds don't have any nanners in sight and they look and smell fantastic! And I got 10 -15 feminized seeds out of it... :)
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Plant them. Grow them. Smoke them. End of story.... bongsmilie
 
snoeman032

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hawse said:
Point is, regardless, that full blown hermies like that are pretty rare I think. Having a plant throw a nanner or two can be fairly normal. It's not uncommon for some strains I have to get at least one or two seeds every run. Doesn't ruin anything, and I get a free fem seed out of it...

In fact in my current grow is the result of a plant throwing a handful of nanners and cross pollinating. The resulting fem seeds don't have any nanners in sight and they look and smell fantastic! And I got 10 -15 feminized seeds out of it... :)
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My gg4 was Hermie and I didn’t even know it, so yea I think I had one of the normal ones lol I got some seeds on it and very few on my Tangie. Maybe ten seeds total. I never did see any nanners or male parts for that matter I’m just assuming it was the gg4 because it says they are bad for turning hermie and that gg4 plant had like 8 of the 10 seeds. The Tangie had 2 I’m actually growing the 2 Tangie seeds now. I’m sure it will turn hermie has well. Has long as it’s not too intense it’s not gonna bother me just free seeds
 
Kingrow1

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snoeman032 said:
My gg4 was Hermie and I didn’t even know it, so yea I think I had one of the normal ones lol I got some seeds on it and very few on my Tangie. Maybe ten seeds total. I never did see any nanners or male parts for that matter I’m just assuming it was the gg4 because it says they are bad for turning hermie and that gg4 plant had like 8 of the 10 seeds. The Tangie had 2 I’m actually growing the 2 Tangie seeds now. I’m sure it will turn hermie has well. Has long as it’s not too intense it’s not gonna bother me just free seeds
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Plants herm morecfrom stress, you had a few seeds so sounds like a good grow. The seeds are fine just normal fems, i plant anything i get but thats rare these days. Maybe you have a cross, see which plants its like at next harvest :-)
 
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