Herm, Bannanas :(

jakesusername

jakesusername

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Hello everyone, this is my 1st post in the forum. Glad to be part of the community, the supposed best grow forum there is!

I am day 63 into my 12/12 photo-period phase. 1 of few has grown a some bananas on the main cola, and a few on some other buds. I honestly noticed them at least a week or 2 ago, but didn't really know "bananas" were signs of hermie. I always thought it was just pollen sacks... so with that said, what should I do from here?
should i
spray then pluck them?
harvest just the herm?
harvest the herm and all touching plants?
harvest all plants?

using my 600x microscope, the trichromes do not look to be ripe enough to pick..

All organic grow, all organic nutes.
1000w HPS double vented
62 F night
65 F day
30% RH
Co2 enriched, currently off
sealed room, no light/air leaks. 20171226_153524.jpg
 
Nutty sKunK

Nutty sKunK

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Well judging from the plant you’re high sativa right? So you got by the looks of things maybe 3-4+ weeks until mature.

Get some tweezers and a wee tub. Turn your fans off and get involved and gently remove them as best you can. Don’t want any pollen being released.

All you can do for now but I’d keep them going. How many nanners are even on ththe plant?

Any more pics?
 
Kingrow1

Kingrow1

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Pluck the nanas gently and finish as normal.

This hermie weed stuff is so subjective, if i grew a ten foot monster that yeilded 5 pounds of grade 'A+' bud would i call it hermie weed if i only found one nana on the whole tree...... :-)
 
Dr. Who

Dr. Who

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jakesusername said:
using my 600x microscope, the trichromes do not look to be ripe enough to pick..

All organic grow, all organic nutes.
1000w HPS double vented
62 F night
65 F day
30% RH
Co2 enriched, currently off
sealed room, no light/air leaks.
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So what! Pluck it......BTW, most Naners thrown in that fashion/for that reason.....Throw pollen only around 15% viable......

Your most likely getting temp stress naners.

Night temps are fine.
Day temps are low - 71 - 72 F
RH is way low! 45% will do you better. That low RH is playing into your naner throw.

I don't care what amount of Co2 your pumping.....Your temps and RH are out of line for the plant to effectively use any increased amount of Co2.

1k watts of lighting = Ok, good there.
Temps of 88-90 deg.
RH of around 80%.

This is what will allow the plant to effectively use that Co2 you push. Your ppm effective use amount should be no higher then 1300. Over 1300 the amount of gain to the amount of increase in lighting power, temps and RH is a very slow curve of effective increase in return...

Turn off any gassing for the last 2 weeks. This allows the plant to produce ethylene gas. This gas starts and helps the ripening of the plant.
 
StoneyStonebreaker

StoneyStonebreaker

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Hermie weed is not the end of the world. All it means is that you might find seeds if you don't get all the pollen sacks and you might not get as much THC. If you are exchanging your flower for cash, it will hurt the bag appeal if you have seeds though. For personal use, a hermied plant is just how life goes sometimes. Some people can taste and feel the difference between senismeilia and seeded bud and prefer the seeded buds. Pull them sacks off gently and relax. It will be cannabis when it is done.
 
vostok

vostok

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you fail to impart strain info

hence 'we' can only blame you and ur Temps/Rh% for the herming

I'd cut my losses and re start..

this time with a grow book

good luck
 
jakesusername

jakesusername

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Dr. Who said:
So what! Pluck it......BTW, most Naners thrown in that fashion/for that reason.....Throw pollen only around 15% viable......

Your most likely getting temp stress naners.

Night temps are fine.
Day temps are low - 71 - 72 F
RH is way low! 45% will do you better. That low RH is playing into your naner throw.

I don't care what amount of Co2 your pumping.....Your temps and RH are out of line for the plant to effectively use any increased amount of Co2.

1k watts of lighting = Ok, good there.
Temps of 88-90 deg.
RH of around 80%.

This is what will allow the plant to effectively use that Co2 you push. Your ppm effective use amount should be no higher then 1300. Over 1300 the amount of gain to the amount of increase in lighting power, temps and RH is a very slow curve of effective increase in return...

Turn off any gassing for the last 2 weeks. This allows the plant to produce ethylene gas. This gas starts and helps the ripening of the plant.
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the picture posted was around xmas.. currently I estimate to be in the last 2 weeks of flowering time and that is why the co2 is off. also during the last 2 weeks i've always preferred to mimic what fall weather does, dry and cooler. i've done multiple controlled experiments with different strains and consulted a botanist friend regarding this temp and humidity range. its effects on plants at this stage of a grow are VERY beneficial.

I do respect your answer and the info you share however, i simply disagree about your RH and Temp Range. lowering humidity and temperatures at this current stage of a grow causes the plant to assume it needs to protect its buds from the harsher weather. so its only option is to create a thicker coat of trichomes. All in all, stronger, better appeal. I strongly urge you to try it with just 1 grow, i bet you will never go back.

I was advised by my friend (the botanist) to cut it down. Apparently, something everyone missed in THC 101, potency stops increasing once seed production begins. although only true for the single bud affected, i couldn't let it go any farther. she now dangles on a clothes rack...

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jakesusername

jakesusername

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under the scope pic is about 7 days ago... they were about 60-70% done
got up at 3am to cut her down before sun up, to keep sugars where they belong!
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jakesusername

jakesusername

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says the guy who wants people to think he knows what hes talking about :)

"well known member" well known for posting old and obsolete information.

it is time you get with the program and stop spreading views that there is only 1 certain way to grow. research before you assume you are right, so you don't go around looking foolish. i can't even post a link yet as a forum member, but im sure if you research things you'd find that im 100% correct LOL. well known member ha!
 
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Dr. Who

Dr. Who

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jakesusername said:
says the guy who wants people to think he knows what hes talking about :)

"well known member" well known for posting old and obsolete information.

it is time you get with the program and stop spreading views that there is only 1 certain way to grow. research before you assume you are right, so you don't go around looking foolish. i can't even post a link yet as a forum member, but im sure if you research things you'd find that im 100% correct LOL. well known member ha!
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Your labeling yourself as a dick with this one sport.
Judging someone by anything to due with the designation under their avatar is going to be a fail at some point.
We have enough angry trolls already.

jakesusername said:
the picture posted was around xmas.. currently I estimate to be in the last 2 weeks of flowering time and that is why the co2 is off. also during the last 2 weeks i've always preferred to mimic what fall weather does, dry and cooler. i've done multiple controlled experiments with different strains and consulted a botanist friend regarding this temp and humidity range. its effects on plants at this stage of a grow are VERY beneficial.

I do respect your answer and the info you share however, i simply disagree about your RH and Temp Range. lowering humidity and temperatures at this current stage of a grow causes the plant to assume it needs to protect its buds from the harsher weather. so its only option is to create a thicker coat of trichomes. All in all, stronger, better appeal. I strongly urge you to try it with just 1 grow, i bet you will never go back.

I was advised by my friend (the botanist) to cut it down. Apparently, something everyone missed in THC 101, potency stops increasing once seed production begins. although only true for the single bud affected, i couldn't let it go any farther. she now dangles on a clothes rack...

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Gas off - good

"At this stage" Interesting anyway. In some plants, this is a required step for proper presale results (speaking as former greenhouse manager). Over my time of growing MJ, I find it not so much.
The amount you drop and the time it's lowered. Can effect yield to drop some. Not a lot but I shoot for potentials.

I manipulate trich's and terps with different nutrient compounds.
I manipulate THC and CBD concentrations with Nutrient compounds.

Seeded plants do stop increasing in concentration but, it also will have a few other cannabinoid compounds not found in unseeded. Late seeded plants, basically don't loose enough to worry about.....I've smoked plenty of seeded weed that will blow your doors off!
You want stronger weed, with deeper actions? With out exacting micro amendings? Run longer.....Longer then you would think. Uber potent and non-ambering strains. Really get more intense run long. Same for the bulk of old school strains.

So basically, we only disagree on a minor item..... Your very right though. There is more then one way to get to the goal.
 
Chunky Stool

Chunky Stool

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jakesusername said:
says the guy who wants people to think he knows what hes talking about :)

"well known member" well known for posting old and obsolete information.

it is time you get with the program and stop spreading views that there is only 1 certain way to grow. research before you assume you are right, so you don't go around looking foolish. i can't even post a link yet as a forum member, but im sure if you research things you'd find that im 100% correct LOL. well known member ha!
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I think it's funny that you deride someone for assuming they are correct, then you say that you're 100% correct.
BIG assumption, junior. :clap:
 
budman111

budman111

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jakesusername said:
says the guy who wants people to think he knows what hes talking about :)

"well known member" well known for posting old and obsolete information.

it is time you get with the program and stop spreading views that there is only 1 certain way to grow. research before you assume you are right, so you don't go around looking foolish. i can't even post a link yet as a forum member, but im sure if you research things you'd find that im 100% correct LOL. well known member ha!
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Get yourself over to the Politics thread, you'll love it.
 
JSheeze

JSheeze

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From a distance there's 2 spots that look like the starting of nanner's, what do you guys think?

Day 43
Velvet Bud - Seedsman

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Mostly 65°f - 79°f, occasionally gets to 82° but rarely.
 
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