Here's hoping folks here aren't responsible if this is really happening.

farmingfisherman

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Morning all

I love growing but after reading this I feel that not all involved in the affair are doing it for the right reasons. Hope people
here follow practices that have positive impacts on their work force rather than negative ones.

 

smokinrav

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Lots of assertions, not a lot of facts provided. Is it cartels or Oregonians? Proof? People from "eight" states robbing and assaulting growers, even tho only an arrest of neighboring Californians is provided as example.
Reads like a War on Some Drugs hit piece.
The cartels have been coming for decades now.
 

farmingfisherman

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Lots of assertions, not a lot of facts provided. Is it cartels or Oregonians? Proof? People from "eight" states robbing and assaulting growers, even tho only an arrest of neighboring Californians is provided as example.
Reads like a War on Some Drugs hit piece.
The cartels have been coming for decades now.
Yeah things here lately have been negative towards growing, lots of articles about impact it has had on water resources and energy consumption. Those I tend to gloss over but worker rights and conditions they are dealing with shouldn't be ignored if they are in fact true.
 

Three Berries

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Illinois has taxes so high and distribution so politically tied that the weed is going for street prices in the despenceries.
 

schuylaar

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Morning all

I love growing but after reading this I feel that not all involved in the affair are doing it for the right reasons. Hope people
here follow practices that have positive impacts on their work force rather than negative ones.

this has been happening for quite some time; in Florida blocks of homes in nice neighborhoods are all turned into grow homes. they hire one person to live there and run each one.
 

schuylaar

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Yeah things here lately have been negative towards growing, lots of articles about impact it has had on water resources and energy consumption. Those I tend to gloss over but worker rights and conditions they are dealing with shouldn't be ignored if they are in fact true.
keep your eye on the prize and encourage others through WOM and blogging..this can be your state if it's not already:

Colorado's total marijuana sales surpassed $2 billion in 2020, the highest amount since legalization, the state's Department of Revenue (CDOR) said Tuesday. State dispensaries brought in $175,145,246 in November, a 17 percent increase from 2019. In return, the state reaped $32,383,094 in revenue from taxes and fees.Jan 14, 2021
Colorado's Record-Breaking Marijuana Sales Top $2 Billion In ...

now the bastards want to raise the tax another 5% for Homeschooling..um, that's going to be a negatory, soldier..yet our Governor let it be know he supports the Rightie agenda since he's up in 2022.

****Governor Polis' Press Secretary..next time just say 'votes are private'..we have more than a lot of Dems unhappy with that statement.
 

C. Nesbitt

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@xtsho care to weigh in as an Oregon grower? Same issue we got singed a little bit on when it was being debated in the Canadian patients forum last week.
 

farmingfisherman

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keep your eye on the prize and encourage others through WOM and blogging..this can be your state if it's not already:

Colorado's total marijuana sales surpassed $2 billion in 2020, the highest amount since legalization, the state's Department of Revenue (CDOR) said Tuesday. State dispensaries brought in $175,145,246 in November, a 17 percent increase from 2019. In return, the state reaped $32,383,094 in revenue from taxes and fees.Jan 14, 2021
Colorado's Record-Breaking Marijuana Sales Top $2 Billion In ...

now the bastards want to raise the tax another 5% for Homeschooling..um, that's going to be a negatory, soldier..yet our Governor let it be know he supports the Rightie agenda since he's up in 2022.

****Governor Polis' Press Secretary..next time just say 'votes are private'..we have more than a lot of Dems unhappy with that statement.
Sounds like the true corruption is just going to get worse. Another reason we all need to grow our own.
 

schuylaar

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Sounds like the true corruption is just going to get worse. Another reason we all need to grow our own.
i'd love to throw up a set- constraints and too much traffic so dispensary is it. i look for specials $19g wax or 4g buckets. i applied for my med license when i moved here under first time waiver (to use OOS ID)..'denied..we need your CO ID or License'..'first time waiver'..'you don't qualify'..'what are the qualifications?' CO License or ID..i did that with them until they sent me a Certified Letter to get rid of me.
 

farmingfisherman

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i'd love to throw up a set- constraints and too much traffic so dispensary is it. i look for specials $19g wax or 4g buckets. i applied for my med license when i moved here under first time waiver (to use OOS ID)..'denied..we need your CO ID or License'..'first time waiver'..'you don't qualify'..'what are the qualifications?' CO License or ID..i did that with them until they sent me a Certified Letter to get rid of me.
Here they are now requiring med growers to follow the same practices as the larger recreational growers which I assume means following a grow start to finish. :wall:
 

schuylaar

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Here they are now requiring med growers to follow the same practices as the larger recreational growers which I assume means following a grow start to finish. :wall:
monopoly and pricing you out with a 'liquor' license that only the wealthy can afford..including the ridiculous farm-to-first-hit-tracking..i remember back in the day how political it was when getting a liquor license from local inmho.

remember this is where the American Dream happens?..where you work your ass off from age 15, 1975; pay into some fund that you were sold on if 'only you paid into'; you'd be granted benefits in case of illness and retirement just in case you work for Enron..where you wait nearly 4 years from date of illness and still no SSDI..i am literally ready to take my early retirement in 4 months.

WTF?

THIS IS THE AMERICAN DREAM IN REALITY.
 
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xtsho

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@xtsho care to weigh in as an Oregon grower? Same issue we got singed a little bit on when it was being debated in the Canadian patients forum last week.
I'll weigh in not as a grower but as a native Oregonian that loves my state.

These criminal illegal grows are a blight on the industry. They're talking about using the National Guard to assist local law enforcement and I am all for that.

Some people are taking the side of these criminals and have "Fuck the man" attitude. It's not about fucking the man. It's about violent criminal organizations using Oregon land to grow cannabis to sell on the black market. This negatively impacts all those legal growers that went through the proper process and have done everything right.

These illegal grows are extremely bad for the environment. They leave behind tons of trash, divert creeks and streams for water having an adverse effect on wildlife. They use toxic chemicals as pesticides because they don't go through the same testing requirements as legal growers. They answer to nobody and ship their pesticide laden weed to wherever they can sell it.

These grows are not some down on their luck farmers just trying to survive. These are set up by the same criminal organizations responsible for flooding our streets with fentanyl. They have no concern for anything except their profits. They smuggle illegal workers across the border to work on these illegal grows and treat them like slaves leaving them to exist in squalid conditions without running water or basic necessities. Many are left unpaid after the harvest and stuck away from home without any resources. It's reminiscent of the nasty migrant work camps that used to exist all across the state until the late 70's and early 80's when the "Man" stepped in and forced farmers to provide decent living conditions for their workers.

They need to take a scorched earth approach to eliminating these illegal grows. I'd volunteer to help for free if it was possible to do so.

"Kathy Keesee works with the farmworker advocacy group Unete. She said migrant laborers who lost farm jobs because of the drought turned to illegal cannabis grows. Many experienced threats of violence and wage theft."

“That if you come bother us for your money, we’re going to go harm your families in Mexico or Guatemala or wherever the families are living,” Keesee said. “We’re also seeing field bosses threatening people, like holding guns to their heads, sexual harassment with women, threatening rape and things like that.”




 

Roger A. Shrubber

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I'll weigh in not as a grower but as a native Oregonian that loves my state.

These criminal illegal grows are a blight on the industry. They're talking about using the National Guard to assist local law enforcement and I am all for that.

Some people are taking the side of these criminals and have "Fuck the man" attitude. It's not about fucking the man. It's about violent criminal organizations using Oregon land to grow cannabis to sell on the black market. This negatively impacts all those legal growers that went through the proper process and have done everything right.

These illegal grows are extremely bad for the environment. They leave behind tons of trash, divert creeks and streams for water having an adverse effect on wildlife. They use toxic chemicals as pesticides because they don't go through the same testing requirements as legal growers. They answer to nobody and ship their pesticide laden weed to wherever they can sell it.

These grows are not some down on their luck farmers just trying to survive. These are set up by the same criminal organizations responsible for flooding our streets with fentanyl. They have no concern for anything except their profits. They smuggle illegal workers across the border to work on these illegal grows and treat them like slaves leaving them to exist in squalid conditions without running water or basic necessities. Many are left unpaid after the harvest and stuck away from home without any resources. It's reminiscent of the nasty migrant work camps that used to exist all across the state until the late 70's and early 80's when the "Man" stepped in and forced farmers to provide decent living conditions for their workers.

They need to take a scorched earth approach to eliminating these illegal grows. I'd volunteer to help for free if it was possible to do so.

"Kathy Keesee works with the farmworker advocacy group Unete. She said migrant laborers who lost farm jobs because of the drought turned to illegal cannabis grows. Many experienced threats of violence and wage theft."

“That if you come bother us for your money, we’re going to go harm your families in Mexico or Guatemala or wherever the families are living,” Keesee said. “We’re also seeing field bosses threatening people, like holding guns to their heads, sexual harassment with women, threatening rape and things like that.”




you know who is responsible for most of this? the fucking greedy ass government that refuses to legalize weed...all these people crowing about "finally lord, free at last"...that's bullshit, making a thousand bullshit rules and setting them up to favor rich fucks isn't legalization in any way, shape, or form, it's just more government hoseshit, trying to make you think you're getting something while they're actually taking from you.
the federal government needs to decriminalize it, deregulate it, then only get involved if someone is breaking environmental laws, or using coercion or force to make people work for them. when the government steps in and adds reams of paperwork to everything you do, that makes the price go up, and that's when the unethical criminal fucks get involved
 
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