Help with these plants..

Jordant111

Active Member
So not really sure whats going on with these plants...
First picture is Healthy plant
Second in Plant same strain and feeding ect.. but has something wrong ??
Third Diff strain but only plant thats like that ?
 

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Jordant111

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Sunshine mix # 4
water Ph between 6.4-6.6
Run off ph is usually around 6
Flushing with just ph water every second or so watering.
Plant gets watered every 3 days ish in a 3 gallon pot around 6 weeks old.
Water between 3-4 liters when watering.
Its the only plant to be doing that and i water when they need so i cant see it being an over watering problem ??
 

Jordant111

Active Member
Medium Ph is around 6.2
And yes i have been flushing every so often.
RH = 60-65%
Temps during day avg 24-28, Night is 19
10 days into 12/12
6 weeks old.
all started from seed this time.

Also What should The medium PH Be ?
It is Sunshine advanced mix # 4 soilless medium... I have it more or less on the high end of a hydro PH which i was under the impression thats where it should be.

Also i am using regular tap water. It is somewhat hard but still good. i Havent ever had problems in the past with it. But lately it has been smelling strongly of chlorine.

Need some more opinions Please.. And PIC # 2 why are the leaves so skinny like ? it is the exact strain and getting exactly everything Pic one is. It seems like some sort of deficiency to me.

Pic 3 is another Strain also started from seed and aswell is the only one looking like it is ??

Please help.
 

Mylohigh

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Yea man there's not really anything fatal happing to your plant right now, just a bit excessive watering it seems to be. That will cause the style of droopiness and can call for some disfigured leaf development. As long as it is a healthy green, that leaf's still taking in energy from the light so no worries. Once you're back on a healthier feeding regime they should spike back up. Not always, either way they'll be fine.

Yes, the skinny leaves are just a different strain. Look into Indica, Sativa's and Ruderalis.

pH for soil should be 6.5-7.0 give or take .2 when watering to adjust and you'll still be safe. When watering make sure to pH at 6.8-7.0 to keep the pH stable in the soil. You might want to get the pH up a little more, that can also cause disfigured leaf growth. Tap water will be fine even if it is Hard water, with clones it may not be the best so check the ppm's. Don't do any flushing, specially every week, your roots need are too breath. You can flush when you switch from veg to flwr n for your last week, if you want, no other time is needed unless there is a problem. Otherwise, all you want is to get a slight little puddle at the drain holes on the bottom.

Well, I was just told by someone on this site that you can use a low bleach to h2o solution to clean you roots, rather than h2o2. So assuming that washer bleach is safe, then the amount of chlorine in your tap water will do no harm. Though if you fear harm from this, you can let it sit for several minutes to 24hrs to evaporate some.

All in all you're well, just cut back on the watering maybe 2.5-3Liters or give another day to dry, always water in the morning when lights first turn on. Also, your RH is good for veg but you're going to have to get that down a little more when flwering.
 

Mylohigh

Member
Also, to explain the same strain/different leaf formation. Since you started from seed, for all of these, even the same strains will not be of the SAME DNA and wont portray the same phenotypes. Think of the plant that developed your seeds, she's not pushing out 100-1000 twins, they're all of a different genetic make up of the two strains crossed for the seeds. So when starting from seeds, even of same strains, you will see a number of different phenotypes but usually similar in some ways. Whereas, different strains entirely can prove to be drastically different in many ways. The idea is to find the plant that does the best and has the qualities you like in the plants growth and smoke, then clone. Clones will all be of the same genetic make up as your mother causing for the same phenotypes each time.
 

MYOB

Well-Known Member
It looks like the leaf edges in pictures 1 & 2 are curling up. Is this the case? The dimpling of the leaves in picture 3 looks like heat issues to me. Heat and low humidity cause deformities as the leaves twist, turn and dimple to reduce their surface area and therefore transpiration.

Plants will also use less water in dry conditions as they will hold on to it longer. Many people will feel the need to water often in dry heat leading to overwatering AND heat stress.

What is your temp/RH at plant level? Do you have fans blowing directly at them? Do the leaves feel dry, rough and leathery?
 

Jordant111

Active Member
Also, to explain the same strain/different leaf formation. Since you started from seed, for all of these, even the same strains will not be of the SAME DNA and wont portray the same phenotypes. Think of the plant that developed your seeds, she's not pushing out 100-1000 twins, they're all of a different genetic make up of the two strains crossed for the seeds. So when starting from seeds, even of same strains, you will see a number of different phenotypes but usually similar in some ways. Whereas, different strains entirely can prove to be drastically different in many ways. The idea is to find the plant that does the best and has the qualities you like in the plants growth and smoke, then clone. Clones will all be of the same genetic make up as your mother causing for the same phenotypes each time.

Thanks for the info bro Much appreciated.
 

Jordant111

Active Member
It looks like the leaf edges in pictures 1 & 2 are curling up. Is this the case? The dimpling of the leaves in picture 3 looks like heat issues to me. Heat and low humidity cause deformities as the leaves twist, turn and dimple to reduce their surface area and therefore transpiration.

Plants will also use less water in dry conditions as they will hold on to it longer. Many people will feel the need to water often in dry heat leading to overwatering AND heat stress.

What is your temp/RH at plant level? Do you have fans blowing directly at them? Do the leaves feel dry, rough and leathery?
I dont believe they are curling up..
Humidity is between 60-65 and temps between 24-28 at plant level.

I have an oscillating fan on them. Some plants have rough surfaces but the majority are soft.
 
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