Help with starting clones

jjmd

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I use rooting powder, and place mine into rockwool. I then surround it by rocks/pebbles, and then place it into 24 hr light. I also use a dome over it. the only diffrence is your using pellets. using the pebbles I am able to go to my hydro setup easier.
 

NinjaToke

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I use rooting powder, and place mine into rockwool. I then surround it by rocks/pebbles, and then place it into 24 hr light. I also use a dome over it. the only diffrence is your using pellets. using the pebbles I am able to go to my hydro setup easier.
Huh? Im not useing any pellets they're rapid rooter plugs and powder, gel, magic juice whats the diff.? My question is what if anything should I put the RRplugs into?
 

Man o' the green

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.... what if anything should I put the RRplugs into?
I suggest placing them in a tray with nute solution about 1 cm deep. This way they will get watered from the bottom up. You only need to keep the water level, which is easy with a humidity dome, very little evaporation.

Rockwool shown, but I've done RR plugs with equal success.
 

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NinjaToke

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Thanks that looks easy enough, this is gonna be my first attempt. Is this a fairly successful method for you?
 

Man o' the green

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Thanks that looks easy enough, this is gonna be my first attempt. Is this a fairly successful method for you?
Yep, just about 100%. But I will only say it is that successful in combination with my entire procedure, as there are many points of failure in cloning. ( sorry if you have heard this all before, I will be quick )

- Prepare some pH balanced water ( 6 is good )
- Clip some branches from the mother and immediately put the stems in the water. Use scissors or anything. Cut the lowest "branches" to expose the lower stem.
- Ready your cloning gel and plugs.
- Without taking the stem out of the water, cut underwater using a razor blade to cut at least 2 cm from your last cut. Angle the cut so more inner tissue is exposed to the gel.
- Immediately dip in rooting gel, cover the entire cut.
- Immediately slide stem into center of soaked RR or RW plug. Insert about 2/3 in. Place in tray with nute solution.
- Repeat, cover with dome, and ignore them for a week. :lol: Seriously, don't touch anything except the nute solution.

Note that I prefer gel, as it keeps the cut fully wet, and the underwater cut to prevent the inner tissues to be exposed to air. (as much as possible)

May your clones all root, and your bud be abundant. :peace:
 

NinjaToke

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Yep, just about 100%. But I will only say it is that successful in combination with my entire procedure, as there are many points of failure in cloning. ( sorry if you have heard this all before, I will be quick )

- Prepare some pH balanced water ( 6 is good )
- Clip some branches from the mother and immediately put the stems in the water. Use scissors or anything. Cut the lowest "branches" to expose the lower stem.
- Ready your cloning gel and plugs.
- Without taking the stem out of the water, cut underwater using a razor blade to cut at least 2 cm from your last cut. Angle the cut so more inner tissue is exposed to the gel.
- Immediately dip in rooting gel, cover the entire cut.
- Immediately slide stem into center of soaked RR or RW plug. Insert about 2/3 in. Place in tray with nute solution.
- Repeat, cover with dome, and ignore them for a week. :lol: Seriously, don't touch anything except the nute solution.

Note that I prefer gel, as it keeps the cut fully wet, and the underwater cut to prevent the inner tissues to be exposed to air. (as much as possible)

May your clones all root, and your bud be abundant. :peace:

Thanks, Ill also be using a gel. When you say you leave them alone besides the nute's do you not mist them?
 

Man o' the green

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Thanks, Ill also be using a gel. When you say you leave them alone besides the nute's do you not mist them?
With a dome on and the vents almost closed, I've found no need. As long as the humidity is high enough I don't think it's necessary, but if they are out in the open, then definitely mist.
 

NinjaToke

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With a dome on and the vents almost closed, I've found no need. As long as the humidity is high enough I don't think it's necessary, but if they are out in the open, then definitely mist.
Im going ghetto this time, I took two 1gal water jugs and cut the tops off both. So what Im going to do is put both halves together to get a totally clear container and that will be my humidity dome, hope it works.
 

NinjaToke

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So I took 4 clones today, 2 WW and 2 MBK. They're in a lightproof cab with a fan circulating air, how long a dark period is necessary?
 

repvip

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incandescent :shock:

Sure they would work ;)

But you are better off with more efficient CFL's... You can get, what, 23w CFL's, which are much better than 60w and surely are as efficient if not more.

But, why stop there. Your plain T8 fluorescent's are pefects. Each light is 32w.. a simple 4' fixture with two lights would then be 64w. Plenty for clones...
 

Man o' the green

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So I took 4 clones today, 2 WW and 2 MBK. They're in a lightproof cab with a fan circulating air, how long a dark period is necessary?
I don't circulate the air in my cloning chamber, I think it speeds up water loss by the plants, which you want to minimize during the first few days.
A dark period for clones is not necessary from what I've experienced, nor for seeds. Just that the light is not needed for the seeds during the first few days. Clones can take quite a bit of light.
 

NinjaToke

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But, why stop there. Your plain T8 fluorescent's are pefects. Each light is 32w.. a simple 4' fixture with two lights would then be 64w. Plenty for clones...
You seem very knowledgable with lighting, I only have 2ftx12inch area for the light.

I don't circulate the air in my cloning chamber, I think it speeds up water loss by the plants, which you want to minimize during the first few days.
A dark period for clones is not necessary from what I've experienced, nor for seeds. Just that the light is not needed for the seeds during the first few days. Clones can take quite a bit of light.
Thanks, Ive checked the water after 12hrs and they barely took water.
 

doc111

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Rapid Rooters Rock! I just transplanted my first batch of rooted clones using Rapid Rooters. I like them better than any other method I've tried so far. To prepare them I just filled the tray with about a half an inch of water until the plugs are good and moist. I then dump off the excess water. Put the dome on after misting the inside of the dome thoroughly. After that just watch and wait. When the plugs started to dry out a little bit just put some more water in the tray until the plugs are moistened and dump off the excess. In less than 10 days I was seeing my first roots poking out the sides and bottom of the plugs. :weed:

Don't use Incandescent light for growing. They put off too much heat and not enough of the proper spectrum of light. Going ghetto? No problem. Just use a few CFL's. They will work way better than Incandescents. :bigjoint:
 

NinjaToke

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So its been a few days since cutting my clones and they are starting to fall limp. They are still beautifull green and taking up water as im adding ph'd water everyday. They are under the 400watt MH as my clone cab light hasnt gotten in yet but they're atleast 2.5-3ft away and off to the side a bit.
 

Maheim

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NO dark for clones. 24 hrs light and u have a grow lamp use that. You can purchase these at walmart in the lighting section. They shine purple and work great when added for extra light. Another way to keep it ghetto is for your dome get you a clear cake cover. Go to your local grocery store and check out there bakery section. Pick up your favorite kind of cake and use the top. It's a double win that way.... You can have your cake and eat it to!!
 

NinjaToke

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Today I noticed two clones have taken root, one has sprouted 4 massive fuzzy roots and the other has them poking out all sides! It took the better part of 2weeks but ehh first time any success is acceptable i guess.
 
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