Help with Rick Simpson Oil

Hello everyone,

So my mother has cancer and I was trying to whip up a small batch of Rick Simpson's Phoenix Tears for her to try out.

I used quality bud and went to work, looking online I decided to go with a Naptha based solvent to reduced the amount of chlorophyll and other impurities that come with an Alcohol extraction.

I found some Klean Strip Green Paint Thinner and started to mix the extraction, but now I can not get the rest of the thinner to evaporate off of the oil and I dont want to evaporate the THC.

But now unfortunately looking at the MSDS http://www.rockler.c...D20000426AA.pdf

it shows that it is only about 30-40% Naptha and I am unsure of the other contents.

As of right now I can see separated oils with the thinner on the bottom and the extration floating on the top. I have sucked some of the thinner up, its relatively clear while the extracted part is a dark golden brown.

Sooo basically I am just curious on wether or not I have just completely fucked my self and I wont be able to dissipate the rest of the solvent off.

Thanks for the help

You might have but im not oil pro. from my understanding you want to use %100 naptha.. not positive though.. funny you ask this becuase my mentor was just talking about how he SAVED TWO CANCER PATIENTS LIFE WITH RSO. BOTH PANCRIATIC!!! ONE HAD 36HRS TO LIVE... and that is no lie or exaggeration.
sorry to hear bout your mas. Mine has cervical cancer.. I wish you the best of luckl!
i can probably get you his recipe as well.

man am I ever hearing a lot of good things about this rick simpson oil.

if its really the answer to solving cancer, how do most people not know about it?

Right?! Thats what i was thinking. But its because pot still isnt as social acceptable as say a prescription pill.. It is fucking killer shit though. No joke it does alot of good.

excogitation said:

Hello everyone,

So my mother has cancer and I was trying to whip up a small batch of Rick Simpson's Phoenix Tears for her to try out.

I used quality bud and went to work, looking online I decided to go with a Naptha based solvent to reduced the amount of chlorophyll and other impurities that come with an Alcohol extraction.

I found some Klean Strip Green Paint Thinner and started to mix the extraction, but now I can not get the rest of the thinner to evaporate off of the oil and I dont want to evaporate the THC.

But now unfortunately looking at the MSDS http://www.rockler.c...D20000426AA.pdf

it shows that it is only about 30-40% Naptha and I am unsure of the other contents.

As of right now I can see separated oils with the thinner on the bottom and the extration floating on the top. I have sucked some of the thinner up, its relatively clear while the extracted part is a dark golden brown.

Sooo basically I am just curious on wether or not I have just completely fucked my self and I wont be able to dissipate the rest of the solvent off.

Thanks for the help

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I am sorry to have to say this, but, you have completely fucked yourself.....

Please properly dispose of that oil you made.

pure naphtha is not easy to get in the US. There are so many different mixtures it gets complicated. Unless you 100% know what you are doing, do not use naphtha.

You can order 99% isopropyl alcohol online.

I sure hope you did not allow anyone to eat or vaporize that oil.

100% naptha will give you the bes rick simpson. This coming from a man whos has saved lifes with this shit. and yes it is tougher to get ahold of but ANY paint wholsale store should should have some/be able to order some.

You can get awesome results with 99% iso.

Pure naphtha and a few other solvents can be considered better and more efficient.

This was the most recent batch of oil I made with 99% isopropyl alcohol. A frozen extraction with select plants that do not release much chlorophyll.

Yeah im not saying you cant make good shit with iso. But Naptha oil will alwasy have a higher thc rating in experiences anyway.

Unfortunately the designation Naphtha only designates a boiling point between 30 and 200C, not what is in it. Even a designation of "Light Naptha", only reduces the range from 30C to 90C, which includes known carcinogens like Benzene, and if you pull the MSDS sheets from the various manufacturers, you will note that some do include benzene.

We prefer a HPLC grade of Pentane or Hexane, instead of Naphtha, both of which boil between 30C and 90C, and which are not know carcinogens.

We also have good results using butane and frozen ethanol QWET techniques.

My stepfather is dying of Leukemia and supposedly this Rick Simpson Oil is supposed to kill cancer, specifically Leukemia, when given extremely high doses of THC. I have seen other oils on the market but nothing comes close to the levels he is stating in the oil--93%THC!! from an Indica heavy strain. I have not found a dispensary in the country that carries something with those high levels. The only option is to do it myself. Me being a rookie, I am looking for the most efficient, easiest way to get that high quality of an extract.... I found a dispensary that has a lab tested Strong Indica Hybrid of 32%THC. That's the highest I've found. For extraction I was going to use something similar to the Thai ISO2 from the 70's, which I heard is an almost foolproof and very effective method. This one is The Super Flower Tower(see pic). It looks identical and is cheaper and readily available. The only thing. I can't find reviews anywhere which makes me wonder...Anyways, the patient it is for has a very low white blood cell count so I do not want to use butane or Namptha. was going to use everclear, but 99%iso might be ok......Any advise here would be helpful.

gradice11 said:

My stepfather is dying of Leukemia and supposedly this Rick Simpson Oil is supposed to kill cancer, specifically Leukemia, when given extremely high doses of THC. I have seen other oils on the market but nothing comes close to the levels he is stating in the oil--93%THC!! from an Indica heavy strain. I have not found a dispensary in the country that carries something with those high levels. The only option is to do it myself. Me being a rookie, I am looking for the most efficient, easiest way to get that high quality of an extract.... I found a dispensary that has a lab tested Strong Indica Hybrid of 32%THC. That's the highest I've found. For extraction I was going to use something similar to the Thai ISO2 from the 70's, which I heard is an almost foolproof and very effective method. This one is The Super Flower Tower(see pic). It looks identical and is cheaper and readily available. The only thing. I can't find reviews anywhere which makes me wonder...Anyways, the patient it is for has a very low white blood cell count so I do not want to use butane or Namptha. was going to use everclear, but 99%iso might be ok......Any advise here would be helpful. View attachment 2688966

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ughm, what in the world is that? marijuana fondue ????!?!?!??!!!!

Its supposed to be an all in one machine. You remove the top. There's a basket inside. You grind your bud up, add your everclear, iso, etc. Let it slow cookfor 12hrs. Look at bud make sure its fully extracted. Discard the used green. Remove the basket. Insert a glass that comes with it. Lock the top and reduce slowly another 12 hrs. The glass will collect all of the alcohol, leaving oil. If residues remain, lower temp, remove top and watch carefully...
I have not used it yet. My friend just ordered it. It supposedly gives a quality oil, pretty safe, and easy to use. If anyone knows someone who has used it, let me know.

93% thc oil is bull, as well as 32% thc indica strain.

There is no such thing as RSO oil, only oil extracted by Rick Simpson's process.

There is nothing different about RSO oil, other than the way it was extracted and processed. Oil extracted by other methods can present the same cannabinoid and other terpene profiles, from the same plants, as it is plant genetics that are the biggest factor, not whether we used naphtha or hexane to extract them.

Rick deserves kudos, accolades, and a hearty salute for all he has done for the medical cannabis movement, but oil extraction was used long before he was even born. He was also trying to present a method that almost anyone could do with available materials, not the best methods available. It is oil extracted by those methods, that qualify as RSO oil.

I stated my objection to his choice of Naphtha above, especially since Hexane or Pentane will do the same extraction and fall into the same boiling range. In fact, your fondest dream would be to find a Light Naphtha supplier, that used Pentane and Hexane, which meet those specs.

93% THC is not what it seems and you probably think. It doesn't mean that 93% of what you are holding in your hand is THC. It simply means that 93% of what the gas chromatograph was told to analyze was THC.

There is a huge alcohol solvent peak at the start of the injection, which covers a number of the monoterpenes, and which the GC is told to ignore. Ignoring that peak, most of our oils are in the high 80's low 90 percentiles, as measured by a gas chromatograph.

Current thinking is that THC reacts primarily with the CB-1 receptors in the brain, while it is CBD that reacts with our immune systems CB-2 receptors scattered throughout our bodies. It appears to be more of an entourage effect of all the cannabinoids and terpenes present, than just THC.

Our patients continue to experience good luck with the strains that we provide, which includes high CBD strains like Cannatonic and Hawaiian Bubble Gift, to help them build tolerance enough to take a maximum dose.

The high CBD strains modify the effects of the THC enough, that the THC is not nearly so discombobulating. After they get their tolerance up, even the high THC strains don't discombobulate them.

My suggestion to you, would be to cut to the chase and stop worrying about the perfect strain and process. We've had successes with a wide variety of strains, while never using naphtha to do so and your friends time is on the clock.

Thanks Fadedawg. So a few questions. I haven't seen any mention of decarboxylation a part of any these videos I've watched or posts Ive seen. Where/how does this happen? This is my plan loosely. I just want to make sure I have the basics for a potent oil that can be ingested, orally, smoked, and possibly kill cancer.

1oz premium kush
. 99%iso(possibly everclear)-keep in freezer
. Bud in processor til grainy not fine
. Ground material in oven @225F for 50min or until toasty(decarboxylationl?)
. Material goes in large mason jar in freezer separately from the alcohol(possibly overnight)
. Mix material and alcohol quickly an shake for 30sec then strain through coffee filter
. Put in freezer for a few hrs
. Strain again, then purge using Pyrex dish method(but maybe switch to a much smaller dish when the oil reduces to improve consistency?) or a wok.

And when I do a big batch, possibly winterization??

feedback....

gradice11 said:

Thanks Fadedawg. So a few questions. I haven't seen any mention of decarboxylation a part of any these videos I've watched or posts Ive seen. Where This is my plan loosely. I just want to make sure I have the basics for a potent oil that can be ingested orally, smoked, and possibly kill cancer.

1oz premium kush
. 99%iso(possibly everclear)-keep in freezer
. Bud in processor til grainy not fine
. Ground material in oven @225F for 50min or until toasty(decarboxylationl?)
. Material goes in large mason jar in freezer separately from the alcohol(possibly overnight)
. Mix material and alcohol quickly an shake for 30sec then strain through coffee filter
. Put in freezer for a few hrs
. Strain, then purge using Pyrex dish method(but maybe switch to a much smaller dish when the oil reduces to improve consistency?) or a wok.

feedback....

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I wouldn't grind material that I was going to extract with a polar solvent, because it opens up too many plant cells to the alcohol. The alcohol will extract the chlorophyll from the cell and concentrate it as well.

Everything that we want is on the outside of the plant, so we just break it up loosely by hand for alcohol extraction.


It would be more accurate to decarboxylate after it is already an oil, so you can gauge the progress from watching the C02 bubbles.

For iso, a 30 second shake is good, but for ethanol, you will need at least 3 minutes frozen.

Purging is key, so I recommend that you put the alcohol mixture in a suitable container, and place that in a hot 250F Canola oil bath, until the Iso evaporates a way and you reach the state of decarboxylation that you desire. See the following link for a better description of that step. http://skunkpharmresearch.com/decarboxylation/

Thanks.

Could I just put the alcohol mixture in a small rice cooker start it at 220 until it reduces then turn it down? Would it be decarbed?

gradice11 said:

Thanks.

Could I just put the alcohol mixture in a small rice cooker start it at 220 until it reduces then turn it down? Would it be decarbed?

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It will decarb at 220, but it won't achieve the THC potential that 250F to 292F will.

OOPs on the two charts. Only meant one...........

So this is pretty much qwiso or qwet? I don't see what is different other than some people use naphtha?
what makes it cure cancer? I need to make something for a family member as well

Texas(THC) said:

So this is pretty much qwiso or qwet? I don't see what is different other than some people use naphtha?
what makes it cure cancer? I need to make something for a family member as well

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It doesn't really cure cancer, it restores natural apoptosis, so that the tumors commit suicide and restricts them from developing new blood supplies, so that they can't grow larger.