Help with producing big buds

Jetson

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I have two female ak-47 plants, in the third week of flowering. They are under a large warehouse hps lamp. One plant is around four feet tall, and the other over five. This is my first grow, letting the plants grow wildly without trimming. Im worried about having popcorn buds instead of nice big ones. Any advice would be helpful. Take a look at the pics. They are from a cheap digital camera so the clarity shitty and somewhat distorted. I havent water them yet so the leaves are hanging. Thanks for any help --- Jet
 

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rmax

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Jetson,

Those look nice. How long have you had those at 12/12???

I'd like the secret to unlocking crystals. Some of these bud pics make me lusty! LOL

So I'm upgrading my light. I'm going from a New Wave 28 T5 (192 Watts) to a 600 Watt Digital w/Cool Tube and both bulbs. See link.

How many watts is your light?

To me they look like 3 or 4 weeks 12/12 and the stalk is pretty thin. I'd tie them to the rack you've got in the back. Kinda curve the head back down towards the floor. Then, you can lower the light a little more. The bottom line is the more light, the bigger the buds. So you want the light as close as possible. But you can't burn the plant.

Last time I used my T5 I supplemented the lower part of my tree with a CFL from Walmart. I left the light in the one spot throughout the 12/12 cycle. The buds on the branch it was closest too were noticeably larger.

This is the light kit I ordered. I upgraded the HPS Bulb to Sunmaster and will keep the Agro MH.

DIGITAL 600 watt both HPS+MH COOL TUBE GROW LIGHT 600w! - (eBay item 180175343395 end time Nov-30-07 09:44:14 PST)
 

GreenThumbINsc

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you could also trim your excess growth earlier in the life cycle. In veg and at the beginning of flowering this way growth is concentrated on a smaller area.
 

natmoon

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A fan blowing on the plants and molasses in the water once a week should help to fatten the buds.
Also adding some low powered cfl blue and red spectrum side lights will also help to make your buds larger.
Or you can buy some proper bud fattening products from a hydro store or online:blsmoke:
 

scias

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well... anyone who knows me will tell you im a big fan of scrog. i dont have any problems getting dense nugs with scrog and hps. hps generally persuade more dense buds anyhow, so you dont have to worry there.
 

Jetson

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Thanks for the info, ill probably add some side lights since the under branches are noticably behind. Also, ive just been using 10-50-10 every two weeks with my watering, this sound good? i was thinking about adding epsum salt to it, and anything else that will help but not overfert. No hydro shops where i live, just home depot. Any ideas? I also had to leave my plants for thankgiving and wont be able to see them till this sunday. The thing is i have no timer for my hps so i sadly moved each plant to the closest window. Not much direct sunlight. I hope it doesnt set them back to much.
 

rmax

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Jetson,

The adding of the CFL's will help out tremendously..

Snuggle like 4 or more up to each tree. Remember to check the K's on the package. LOL

The twins will have the 600W up top and the T5 below, shining up. Rock Star treatment!

You're doing great for a first grow.
 

rmax

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Jetson,

How often do you water? Do you use a water meter? They look kind of "Wilty"???
 

rmax

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GreenThumb,

Can you please explain trimming - when to trim and how much to hack off.

Thx
 

pastafarian

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yiou could bend the larger plant to the height of the shorter 1 allowing you to lower the light getting more lumens to the lower sights aswell >= )
 

rmax

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Mine are going OK.

SuperFly is to the left. Little G is to the right.

They'll be two weeks (from dropping into wet napkin) Saturday at Midnight EDT.

Still waiting for my light...
 

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cheeba

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PRUNE!!!!!cut all the lower bud sites that dont get much light the plant will turn the energy it was giving those tothe main sites at the top making themfater,....usually leave the first 3 stocks at the top everything else goes
keeping as many fan leaves as possible...
 

TurboEscort

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A fan blowing on the plants and molasses in the water once a week should help to fatten the buds.
Also adding some low powered cfl blue and red spectrum side lights will also help to make your buds larger.
Or you can buy some proper bud fattening products from a hydro store or online:blsmoke:
yiou could bend the larger plant to the height of the shorter 1 allowing you to lower the light getting more lumens to the lower sights aswell >= )
this is exactly what i would do. assist the tall plant so you can lower the hps. and add some cool and warm cfl's. and molasses. im sure your yield will be real fat after that.
 

Jetson

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yea i decided to cut some lower branches today. I'll cut a few more in a couple of days. Getting excited, end of week four, buds really taking shape. Posting pics soon. I added two floro tubes and might add some more. Where u get good molassas?
 

kochab

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any sorghum molasses is good to use. blackstrap is 2nd best. you can get it at the grocery store. on the isle with pancake syrup.
 

rmax

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Super Excited over here. I just checked one of my E-Mail accounts and found my tacking number for the 600 Watter!!! WOO WHOO, BABY!!!!!

I got the kit that included the MH and HPS Bulbs.

I want crystals!
 

rmax

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Got my light today...

But, as always, dilemmas persist.

On one hand, Tony didn't include the hangers for the fixture... so I can't hang the light right now...

On the other hand, I paid an extra $34.00 to upgrade to the SunMaster HPS... which was in the box... along with an extra Agro Max HPS.

In essence, I got scammed out of my hangers but comped on a lamp. WTF?

What do you cats think, call and bitch or take the lamp and run??
 

kochab

New Member
Got my light today...

But, as always, dilemmas persist.

On one hand, Tony didn't include the hangers for the fixture... so I can't hang the light right now...

On the other hand, I paid an extra $34.00 to upgrade to the SunMaster HPS... which was in the box... along with an extra Agro Max HPS.

In essence, I got scammed out of my hangers but comped on a lamp. WTF?

What do you cats think, call and bitch or take the lamp and run??
call and bitch. keep the ballast/light for the hassle. hang the light by temporary means until they get you your hangers......
 
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