Help Plz!!!

JerkyBoysPranksters

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i thought my seedlings were doin ok but ive been lookin around the site and ive seen pics of other seedlings that people say are stretchy and mine are 3x stretchier!!!!! wtf can i do?! theyre indoor under lights right now about three inches above them. the lights are 40w sun stick flourescents. PLZ HELP!

sorry i wish i could upload a pic but my phone wont take any pictures smaller than 640x480
 

ceestyle

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i can't find the specs on the bulbs when i googled. i assume they're T12. Look at the box that they came in and get the temp in K and/or lumens rating (measure of light output) if you can. either that or find a link to them online and check them out.

stretching is generally a surefire indicator of not enough light.
 

JerkyBoysPranksters

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K heres what it says on the lights themselves "Sylvania Sun Stick 5000k F/40 SunStick 40W" these bulbs are white. and 1 of thems orange and says " Sylvania Cool White F40/CWP 40W". theres 2 light fixtures with 2 bulbs in each.
 

kingkush

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what walmart shoplights? I flower under shoplights they do great but not for alot of plants. I flower under 3lights each hold two bulbs. I use 4 cool lights 2 warm in the middle. but for starting off. use good water and no nutes if anything epsol salt and superthrive
 

JerkyBoysPranksters

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I dont think theyre waltmart but im snot sure ( i didnt set up the grow room ) so thats it? i mean ive been using good water and no nutrients since they were started. just started usin nutrients 2 days ago, there has to be somethin else wrong cuz theyve been stringy for a most of there lives. theyre only about 3 weeks old by the way
 

ceestyle

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so that's something like 2000 lumens apiece for a total of 8000, which should be reasonable for seedlings if they're right on top of them ... how tall are they with how many sets of serrated leaves?
 

mockingbird131313

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Stretching plants? Need more lumens. Try to figure at least 4000 lumens per square foot of space, three inches above the seedlings. Do not over heat the seedlings.
 

JerkyBoysPranksters

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well the tallest are about 4 1/2 inches and then theres really short ones thatr only bout a week or so old. the most set of serated leaves any of them have is 2 and the top set arent even full.
 

cruzer101

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Tell ya what, Roll a Joint, take a big hit and blow it on them. It may not do them any good but you may enjoy it.

Now how about this I found for ya.



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Seedlings stretch due to the influence various factors. In other words the way the genotype is expressed is determined by the biotic and abiotic factors affecting its growth. The site where the plants are grown may be conducive to stretching due to a nutrient deficiency or other factors like temperature or day length.

The source of the seed is also important. If the environment that the plants were from originally was consistant from year to year (for instance, indoors) and/or encouraged stretchy plants (crowding), natural selection may have passed on the trait for stretchy plants. If the seeds were from hybrid plants that were crossed "Willy-nilly" the variation of the offspring will blur the distiction of phenotypes.

When plants stretch due to competition for light, this is known as the "shade avoidance response phenotype" (SARP). The light reflected off of other plants has less red in it because the leaves of the other plants absorbed it already. This is how the plant knows how close it is to its neighbors. When there is less red, the plant stretches so it can compete better for the light. HPS lights are high in red spectrum, so plants grown under them stretch less.

Plants match their phenotype with the environment, but this can depend on other factors. Temperature and photoperiod can affect the response to red light by limiting which phenotypes are expressed. Higher temperatures, shorter photoperiods and dense planting make the plant more sensitive in its response to the amount of red.

The SARP is really an interaction between abiotic factors and the quality of light. The size of a plant that has stretched may be larger than a plant grown under a full spectrum, but overall yield will be less. A plant grown under a short photoperiod is more sensitive to red, but a plant with a long photoperiod period will stretch regardless of the spectrum because it has time to make a longer stem. In fact under longer photoperiods, the plants become less sensitive to red because seedling elongation affects the health of the adult plant.

The seedling is aware of it surroundings. The SARP isn't affected by photoperiod in a seedling because the seedling has to be aware of the density of the population, but if the day-length is short enough to induce flowering, then they will stretch. An elongated plant costs more to grow because your growing more stem and less bud. So under conditions of dense planting the temp and the photoperiod determne how close to plant to minimize stretching.
 

JerkyBoysPranksters

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k well thats some info but not exactly an answer or solution to my problem. i realllllllllly want to fix this tonight guys so PLZZZ help me out here
 

JerkyBoysPranksters

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Do you think it could be from the seeds bein put in to early? right when i saw tap root i put it in the jiffy pot. or could that be it theyre in jiffy pots bout the size of a measuring cup?
 
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