Help me with an estimate please

Hello all,

Im very fustrated at the moment as this is my first grow and I can only grow once a year so need to yield as much as possible and hoping for someone to guide me on what I could expect - I know it can only be an estimate as plants are not robots after all...

I have a 2.4m x 1.2m x 2.0m tent with 3x Dual Spectrum Parabolic 600w Lights all throughout veg and I am currently on week 5 of veg today and they are pretty big now. I have topped and fimmed a few but NO other training involved.

I have had no major issues with nutrients or temperatures - lowest 20c and highest about 33c but I only think the 33c is between the lights cooling down and the heater turning off when the light cycle changes so not a long time at that heat so far.

I am in 11 litre pots now in COCO and some have roots poking through the bottom already... is it advised I flip to 12/12 now? I wanted to veg for 1 more week totalling 6 weeks of veg (I'm growing mama mia strain from seedsman)

I wanted 5 ounces per plant and have 9 plants... what do you think the chance is of me hitting this target if everything carries on going well?

Any advice would mean so much to me.... thank you for your time.

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Looking up how much yield, 'Mama Mia' typically produces. Brb.

7 week veg, wont see five oz dried buds, sorry, but you no worries, if all is well.....the longer you veg the more you yield, proven.

Southcross I have already tried researching that myself its not that im lazy I just couldnt find a straight answer unless you have a source I dont know about?

So 5oz plants need more than a 5 weeks veg in coco 11ltr pots?

LuK2007 said:

Southcross I have already tried researching that myself its not that im lazy I just couldnt find a straight answer unless you have a source I dont know about?

So 5oz plants need more than a 5 weeks veg in coco 11ltr pots?

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No sir. I don't believe it's new sources. I'm finding reports of 4oz on a 30" plant. 2-3oz per plant with no age or height.

Third General estimate is 400grams per m/2. You have about 3.5 meters of floor space. Enough light.

The math says 42 ounces.

yes, and more light, and more space, and environmental controls maybe too.
bigger pots, quality food, lots of love....5 oz no problem

LuK2007 said:

Southcross I have already tried researching that myself its not that im lazy I just couldnt find a straight answer unless you have a source I dont know about?

So 5oz plants need more than a 5 weeks veg in coco 11ltr pots?

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I have two absolute monsters in 2 gallon smart pots. No name and bubblegum. I'd wish they stop exploding. I vegged for 33 days and flipped at a height of about 11". The two gallon pots are not slowing them down in the least. The bigger plants tend to dry the soil faster then if they were in a bigger pot. It takes more water to keep up.

About a pound

LuK2007 said:

Hello all,

Im very fustrated at the moment as this is my first grow and I can only grow once a year so need to yield as much as possible and hoping for someone to guide me on what I could expect - I know it can only be an estimate as plants are not robots after all...

I have a 2.4m x 1.2m x 2.0m tent with 3x Dual Spectrum Parabolic 600w Lights all throughout veg and I am currently on week 5 of veg today and they are pretty big now. I have topped and fimmed a few but NO other training involved.

I have had no major issues with nutrients or temperatures - lowest 20c and highest about 33c but I only think the 33c is between the lights cooling down and the heater turning off when the light cycle changes so not a long time at that heat so far.

I am in 11 litre pots now in COCO and some have roots poking through the bottom already... is it advised I flip to 12/12 now? I wanted to veg for 1 more week totalling 6 weeks of veg (I'm growing mama mia strain from seedsman)

I wanted 5 ounces per plant and have 9 plants... what do you think the chance is of me hitting this target if everything carries on going well?

Any advice would mean so much to me.... thank you for your time.

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So you have roots poking through the bottom of your pots and your not even flowering yet ......well if I were you ....I'd give them a transplant and let them go a week after you transplant and then start flowering ....so you don't run into rootbound plant issues .....further more,,there is no way anyone can give you any kind of guess on yeild ....without it being just that ....a wild ass guess ....the size of your plants make no difference on yield .....little plant with donkey dick colas can do better than a much larger one with tiny buds .......and usually when people want a guess on there yield ,,,they post some pics near harvest ....and it's still just a wild guess .....just be patient and grow them to the best of your ability .

SouthCross said:

I have two absolute monsters in 2 gallon smart pots. No name and bubblegum. I'd wish they stop exploding. I vegged for 33 days and flipped at a height of about 11". The two gallon pots are not slowing them down in the least. The bigger plants tend to dry the soil faster then if they were in a bigger pot. It takes more water to keep up.

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I'm assuming that OP is not in smart pots since he mentions roots out the bottom .

Thanks for taking the time everyone - i appreciate it.

I dont have any larger pots at the moment - I went from party cup, 2 litre, now 11 litre and was planning on ending it here.

Do you think if I flipped to 12/12 on Monday they will be root bound? I didnt think 11 litre pots could be rooted out in only 5 weeks?

LuK2007 said:

Thanks for taking the time everyone - i appreciate it.

I dont have any larger pots at the moment - I went from party cup, 2 litre, now 11 litre and was planning on ending it here.

Do you think if I flipped to 12/12 on Monday they will be root bound? I didnt think 11 litre pots could be rooted out in only 5 weeks?

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Look at the guys growing tiny monsters in red solo cups. It takes a lot to slow it down. If it slows down.

So i should be ok in the 11 litre pots for this grow? I wouldnt want to effect my yield negatively because of pots.

LuK2007 said:

So i should be ok in the 11 litre pots for this grow? I wouldnt want to effect my yield negatively because of pots.

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We'll, you'll never know. The only way to find out is grow it out. If it's not the weight you want or enough to toke 4 grams a days for six months. That's weed growing.

Growers tend to find a single strain that matches the grow style. After making friends, the average yield is known. At what height and age.

Hope I'm not being too forward but why can you only grow once a year?

Even after the plants ripen. Drying and cure adds a minimum of a month.

LuK2007 said:

So i should be ok in the 11 litre pots for this grow? I wouldnt want to effect my yield negatively because of pots.

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If you don't have access to any other pots and your only choice is to flower them in the pots there in now ......I'd start flowering them as soon as you could if your not guna transplant,,some will say it makes no difference but from my own experience I like my girls to have room for roots when the head into flower .....so the sooner you flower and get the plant focusing on bud development the better IMO .....the solo cup example isn't relevant in this case ....your wanting maximum yeild ....but those plants in solo cups are being grown for fun in a friendly competition ........next time look into smart pots ,,,and if you plan to keep those pots I'd personally start flowering .......that's just my opinion .....just like assholes everybodies got one .....GL


Might I add ...keep a very detailed journal ...I have a journal that has over 15 years of personal grow info..from problems to success and everything inbetween ...I still refer to it each summer ....I suggest you start one and in a few years you'll appreciate taking the time to have a detailed grow journal ......I grow lots of different strains ...so I can refer back to my book of secrets and easily see what worked for me previous if it's been a while since I grew that certain strain ...........if you do start a journal ....make it very detailed with dates.......GL

take a look at the outdoor plants in cali, one look at the untrained varieties shows us that yes wilma, size does matter. The bigger the plant the more weight you can pull. You gotta assume all are grown well, and fed well, then size most definitely matters.

of course one 6 inch plant could be trained across a room in a scrog and do very well, but thats not an entirely fair comparison.

Plant size is directly related to container size too. bigger containers grow bigger plants, bigger plants yield more bud.

Yes assuming all is grown correctly and in the same fashion .....I'm actually in Cali myself ....I can pull more off a 4ft tall bush with many tops ....than an 8ft tall pine tree with no training ......just so many variables and methods it's not even funny/fair .....that's why seeing the plant helps when giving this type of advice .....depending on how it's being grown ...seeing a pic makes it easier to judge IMO ..........I agree two plants being grown trained the same way ...the bigger plant will yield more absolutely ......all I'm saying is that I've seen plants that appear large and are sad yielders......I guess the 8 ft untrained pine tree type plant compared to a well trained 4ft cola producing monster is my best example ....GL OP

SouthCross said:

I have two absolute monsters in 2 gallon smart pots. No name and bubblegum. I'd wish they stop exploding. I vegged for 33 days and flipped at a height of about 11". The two gallon pots are not slowing them down in the least. The bigger plants tend to dry the soil faster then if they were in a bigger pot. It takes more water to keep up.

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The watering schedule changes as plants grow and roots expand. After repotting from half gallon into a 7, I won't water again for at least 7 days, sometimes longer. When that same plant is close to the chop, it'll need water every other day.

Chunky Stool said:

The watering schedule changes as plants grow and roots expand. After repotting from half gallon into a 7, I won't water again for at least 7 days, sometimes longer. When that same plant is close to the chop, it'll need water every other day.

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And I look forward to the next grow. Seedlings I only have water every 5 days at that. All I have to do is look at them. 6 flowering plants are running about 2.5 gallons total. Every other day. I keep spilling water all over the place cause my coffee didn't kick in.

Looking forward to seedlings....

boy you guys just help me almost prove something, that there is a relationship between the size of the pot and the size of the plant....