help I have bugs what are they?

I only experienced growers please. I had some type of bug that moved fast I tried neem had no effect but I changed my soil and it seemed they were gone . I havent seen them but I see these other bugs that look like the babies to the first bug at first but now im thinking its a different bug all together. Anyone that helps and I resolve the problem or gives good advice will get rep. Heres some pics.

Looks like Mites, but you are looking for experienced growers opinions so lets wait.

Looks like mites as previously said, neem oil only kills the adults so you have to keep spraying with neem to get the mites that are hatching.

Not trying to be a ass just want my garden back. So I would like growers that know what there talking about and are all about growing and helping fellow growers with no little kid shit. DRAMA!!

Do you think I should try the pepper spray? If you have heard anything about it or used it yourself.

bigrake said:

Do you think I should try the pepper spray? If you have heard anything about it or used it yourself.

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I used a pepper and garlic spray for other pests but not mites so I couldn't tell you how effective it would be , it would probably kill the adults on contact but I'm not sure about the eggs, the neem works well because it stops the adults reproducing thus no more eggs.

bigrake said:

Do you think I should try the pepper spray? If you have heard anything about it or used it yourself.

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you can laugh but it you wish not to spray your plants with chems then buy some aphids introduce them to your grow them after one day ladybirds then spray the fuck out of your grow with washing up liquid in water

Mites, i hate mites, as said neem and hot pepper sprays, cinnamon sprays, tobacco/nicotine sprays all work as a deterrent. If your in veg get somthing that has abamectin in it, plantvitality+ for example.
Dont just rely on sprays, lower your temps to 15-16degrees C and ramp up humidty to slow down there life cycle and slow down there population bloom.
D.E.is relatively effective, can be a pain to apply though, and should not be applied to flowering plants, well not after first 4 wks of flower. Also keeping the room clean will help. When applying neem, make sure you spray every where, as adults and young need to ingest alot for it too ruin there lives.

Best of luck.

Canola oil diluted in water will take care of the eggs (25ml per litre of water), Neem works more as a preventative than anything else, pepper spray for the adults. Yup, spider mite.

Turkilton said:

you can laugh but it you wish not to spray your plants with chems then buy some aphids introduce them to your grow them after one day ladybirds then spray the fuck out of your grow with washing up liquid in water

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Wait,, why aphids? Wont they will just munch on the plants,, and then you would have two pests to deal with.
also i found you need atleast 2-3 'doses' of ladybirds to get mites under control, and even then i dont think they will get them all and are not the best form of biological control for spidermites. When ever i have used them i have put them out just after lights out and of the 50 mayb 5-10 at most are there the next day, as they kamikaze at the HID. I have had good exp. with persimilis, but you have to sprinkle them on each plant. And once again two doses just to be sure, and if you have neemed or sprayed with owt systemic they dont do very well,
i would have to look it up as i cant remeber exactly but im sure the persimilis needs over 12hrs light to be actove otherwise they hibernate so if your in flower you would need a different species.
I have also used green lace wings, not for spidermites but for thrips but they eat most veg/sap eating bugs, they also fly about to lay eggs. They do need some care though, quite alot, the adults need to feed on nectar/pollen/sticky honey-dew so you need somthing, i used 'nectar' water in a small glass,
sgit sorry im starting to go on, anyhow take it easy and best o luck.

spray the ladybugs with a sugar solution and it glues their wings shut, i use captain jacks deadbug brew with spinosad(+ a spreader sticker wetting agent), and it took care of my mite problem. It's a systemic spray so it really fucks them up. A simple application of molasses spray later will dissolve the spinosad into harmless sugars.

I rotate the spinosad with mighty bomb, which is a mint-type spray used to smother mother mites. When i apply i let the room get warm, like 90, then wait a couple minutes, shut lights and fans off, prespray with water to slowdown water uptake in the plant and give water if needed. A few minutes later I apply to every square inch of the plants undersides as I take them out of the growroom. once theyre all out in a bunch i do a mist-over the tops of all the plants, throughout this process trying not to get the stuff in the soil (tipping the plant a lil while spraying)

I have no citable evidence but people say reducing temps slows down the mites; so i feel if you warm up the area it will make them more active, eggs hatch, so on so on. Now that we spray them they all get suffocated and die. You dont want it too warm though as it will make the plant suck up the water from the pesticide and make it less effective
I think cold will make them more dormant and increase chances of a second attack

now i make a bleach spray which we clean out the growroom, every square inch. I even spray the reflector and under the mylar in my room, and vacuum and put carpet cleaner down there, an egg could be hidden anywhere.
a few days later i rinse the leaves to clear up any residues.
and i re-apply 1-2 weeks later.

fr3d12 said:

Looks like mites as previously said, neem oil only kills the adults so you have to keep spraying with neem to get the mites that are hatching.

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OK but check this out...I did some research on Neem Oil and what I found is you have to "water" as well as spray...Neem works from the inside of the plant as they suck it up with their water and nutes...It makes the spider mites exoskeleton soft and therefore they die, also they don't reproduce properly either the larve won't molt or they don't reproduce at all.....I am basically a n00b but I had a bad bug problem cause I live in the country...spider mites, fungus gnats, aphids, and thrips well the Neem took care of most of it..I use it as a prventitive now, I water from bean or clone till I put it into flower there's enough residual effect to carry through flower time....and for the aphids, I found that 2 tablespoons of garlic "powder" mixed with 1 teaspoon of "real soap" (not detergent) to a gallon of water then spray and water with it...all this does not harm growth, yeild, taste, or quality of your smoke, and it's all organic so it works well with my "supersoil"...peace and good luck...

So what do you think I should buy? Sorry im new to this so all the stuff is new to me .

Can anyone say what I could go to Home depot and get that will kill these fuckers. Ive been tourching them up until now theyve been just on my pots but yesterday I saw little bunches on my og and blue dream but not really on my other plants .

BTW those look like beneficial PREDATORY mites. not bad spider mites such as two spotted etc etc.
They look like Amblyseius or persimilis. They predate on eggs and thirps larvae blah blah.

Ur bads mites will look something like this IE two spotted spider mite
the spots are from feeding on chlorophyll. They also leave webbing and are generally slower than your beneficial but not always.


I wouldnt blast your crop with anything because of the pictures you posted. I would monitor it closely though because they have to be eating something. If the pest population that they are predating on gets out of hand, then do something about it.

Fuzzywuzz said:

BTW those look like beneficial PREDATORY mites. not bad spider mites such as two spotted etc etc.
They look like Amblyseius or persimilis. They predate on eggs and thirps larvae blah blah.

Ur bads mites will look something like this IE two spotted spider mite
the spots are from feeding on chlorophyll. They also leave webbing and are generally slower than your beneficial but not always.


I wouldnt blast your crop with anything because of the pictures you posted. I would monitor it closely though because they have to be eating something. If the pest population that they are predating on gets out of hand, then do something about it.

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I dont think its persimilis, as they have more body colour, and slightly longer legs,

But you could be right about Amblyseius, and if i got the op right he had fast moving bugs in there, maybe thrips. And amblyseius loves thrips babbies...

Take it easy...