Help, having trouble figuring this potential problem out

Pinworm

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IOW: "if you're not infested, your plants suck." Might be sound reasoning. ^^

But seriously, those look frosty as hell... but kinda... clumpy, i guess, on the leaves. Is that the "white dots" we're supposed to see? The black dots are clear enough i guess...

Maybe do a thorough cleaning of the surrounding area (and yourself), and stick your face in your plants for a while, and just watch. If your lamp's too bright, turn it off an hour early (or on an hour late) and just chill in natural/regular light, and try to get a visual on the actual pest. Look everywhere, over, under, between, around... if you have an infestation, you should be able to find a cluster of bogeys somewhere, or at least one visible culprit.

But that "lights on" pic takes on a sort of monochrome effect, makes all the colors too similar, and doesn't provide enough contrast to get the clearest look.
You speak the troofs. Frosty looking plants OP has. he should try upping the temps to at least 88 degrees, and should try fucking with the photoperiod. I would suggest 16/8 then 18/6 then try 24/0 and then back to 17/9 Do that, and then cycle that system as often as possible.
 

reasonevangelist

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You speak the troofs. Frosty looking plants OP has. he should try upping the temps to at least 88 degrees, and should try fucking with the photoperiod. I would suggest 16/8 then 18/6 then try 24/0 and then back to 17/9 Do that, and then cycle that system as often as possible.
lol, the point of the light adjustment comment was to avoid decreasing or interrupting the dark period, in the event that his lamp is bright enough to harm his vision. We don't want to mess up the plants, but you can't grow new eyeballs... so a single instance of a 1-hour light reduction (to avoid disruption of the dark period and reduce risk to his vision), most likely will not hurt the plants, and is likely the only way to minimize risk to both the plants and the eyes.

And upon closer inspection, that third pic seems to show either larvae or leaf damage (white spots/splotches/clumps, not trichs), in addition to the black dots (holes or droppings?). The other two, though, all i see is frosty goodness; difficult to distinguish much else.
 

Pinworm

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lol, the point of the light adjustment comment was to avoid decreasing or interrupting the dark period, in the event that his lamp is bright enough to harm his vision. We don't want to mess up the plants, but you can't grow new eyeballs... so a single instance of a 1-hour light reduction (to avoid disruption of the dark period and reduce risk to his vision), most likely will not hurt the plants, and is likely the only way to minimize risk to both the plants and the eyes.

And upon closer inspection, that third pic seems to show either larvae or leaf damage (white spots/splotches/clumps, not trichs), in addition to the black dots (holes or droppings?). The other two, though, all i see is frosty goodness; difficult to distinguish much else.
It's tough to distinguish because of all that frosty goodness.
 

FrozenChozen

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@Peaceman12 the original poster
cucumber slices on tinfoil creates noxious gasses that MOST insects can't stand.... Also Peppermint oil on a cloth in a small dish, insects HATE peppermint... A live
Sweet Basil plant will attract them away from your ladies, if its thripps....
NEVER spray anything on your plants this far into flower.... unless its BHO... Then spray away sir!
 

Dr.Pecker

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Two hot shot strips on a fan would kill them If your room is sealed you dont want to breath it. spinosad kills them not sure about smoking spinosad though
 

Pinworm

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@Peaceman12 the original poster
cucumber slices on tinfoil creates noxious gasses that MOST insects can't stand.... Also Peppermint oil on a cloth in a small dish, insects HATE peppermint... A live
Sweet Basil plant will attract them away from your ladies, if its thripps....
I usually blast them with some 30% bleach and cayenne pepper when I start to see them thrips tho.
 

FrozenChozen

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I usually blast them with some 30% bleach and cayenne pepper when I start to see them thrips tho.
bleach is one of those things that if you can't use at full strength as a foliar spray you're better off just dumping the bottle on your soil...
Maybe that'll kill those little fuckers....
 

Pinworm

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bleach is one of those things that if you can't use at full strength as a foliar spray you're better off just dumping the bottle on your soil...
Maybe that'll kill those little fuckers....
Yeah, I usually try to be conservative about it. 30% is being safe. You can definitely up the dosage. And, whatever you do, keep that light as far away from the tops as you can. You don't wanna burn those juicy tops, man. Don't waste 3 months of work!
 

reasonevangelist

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It's tough to distinguish because of all that frosty goodness.
I kinda wonder whether the bug stuff might add any particular special flavor... or maybe whether any residual bug-matter would discernibly affect hash made from such a plant.

And if it crackles when you burn it, you get to make a bunch of jokes. So idk, as long as it doesn't ruin the plant, maybe it's not really a problem?

People get funny about "bugs" and such, but there are bugs everywhere, in and/or on, just about everything, including FDA-approved food products. There is even an above-zero figure for allowable pest matter content in commercially available food. Like, you can have n= >0 roach legs in your corn chips, and that's okay (according to the FDA).
 

reasonevangelist

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@Peaceman12 the original poster
cucumber slices on tinfoil creates noxious gasses that MOST insects can't stand.... Also Peppermint oil on a cloth in a small dish, insects HATE peppermint... A live
Sweet Basil plant will attract them away from your ladies, if its thripps....
NEVER spray anything on your plants this far into flower.... unless its BHO... Then spray away sir!
spraying BHO on plants! Hah! Mind = blown. I'm going to have to try that at some point.
 

FrozenChozen

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@Peaceman12 the original poster
cucumber slices on tinfoil creates noxious gasses that MOST insects can't stand.... Also Peppermint oil on a cloth in a small dish, insects HATE peppermint... A live
Sweet Basil plant will attract them away from your ladies, if its thripps....
NEVER spray anything on your plants this far into flower.... unless its BHO... Then spray away sir!
@Dr.Pecker you read this line?
 
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