Help diagnose.

bpboothb

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I am in my 4th week of flower and in the last week or so, I am noticing that most of the upper new leaf growth is starting to cup/claw downard. I am thinking I have 1 of 2 problems here. Either I am looking at nitrogen toxicity or I have been waiting to long in between waterings. Or maybe you see something I have missed? I will attach some pics, let me know what you think the problem is?

Thanks!
 

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Roughly every 4 days, I go by pot weight. The last time I watered I went 5 days and the plants were not looking very happy, they were drooping pretty bad.
 
Here is a basic run down of my grow right now:

I am growing in a coco/perlite mix in 3gal containers under 600watt HPS lights.

I am using AN nutes at the following levels Micro(5-0-1)@4mL/gal, Grow(2-1-6)@4mL/gal, and Bloom(0-5-4)@4mL/gal and a Cal/Mg Supplement(2-0-0)@1mL/gal. My water is pHed around 5.8-6.0, right before I add nutes and I always check after adding nutes to be safe and it remains constant. I usually water when the pots feels light.

I recently bought a dehumidifier, thinking that if it were mold/fungus, it would slow the pread. With the dehumidifier, my humidity hovers right around 40%-50%, with temps usually ranging from 75-85 degrees.


Also, I originally started in 1gal pots with a straight coco/perlite mix. A week before flowering, I transplanted into 3gal pots and since the store was out of straight coco, i picked up a coco mix that had ammendments(perlite, lava rock, earthworm castings, composted chicken manure, fish bone meal, bat guano, seabird guano, kelp meal, silica, alfalfa meal, humic acid). This kind of why I think I am seeing the nitrogen toxicity, because I am giving the plants nitrogen through nutes, plus all of the nitrogen I believe it would be picking up in the ammendments. I could be wrong.


Let me know if you need any more information then what I provided.

Thanks!
 
Sorry to keep bumping this and I hope I am not coming off as a pest, but I will be watering today and was hoping to get a little input on how much nutes I should give. I was thinking of completely cutting out the Grow part of the nute formula because of the nitrogen that is already present in the amendments and I am leaning toward Nitrogen toxicity. Any input?
 
Yeah, I will agree with you and say it's a N overdose. It fits the symptoms very well, with it's dark color and 'clawed' leaves. I'd give a light flushing(like 3 gallons), then straight water. After a week, go back to fert, possible even half strength for the first feeding. The newest growth should start looking good after 5 days or so.

Just a suggestion. :)
 
agree with Jawbrodth.a thourough flushing is just what you need.according to advanced nutrient( which I use their connoiseur at the moment )when you are using@4 ml per gallon even if you are using distilled water ppm will be about 1600 plusabout 200 ppm for cal mag so yourppm is about 1800.WAYYYYYYYYYYY too much.AN nutrient calculator is good when you use lower than their lowest concentration especially if you are growing Sativa hybrid.i recommend ppm of maximum 700 to 800. your plant obviously does not like to be fed too much.
 
Thanks satica! Glad everyone is thinking the same thing here, I thought I was just being overly paranoid. I guess the good thing is, it doesn't look as if its doing any damage to the plant, but obviously if I kept on this regiment, I may have caused some damage in the long run.
 
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