Help 4 weeks flowering my girls are looking ill.

Okay here's the story. 2 weeks into flowering I started using DNF (Dutch Nutriant Formula) and 5 days later on my next feeding I started using molasses. shortly after that the leaves started to curl. Now there getting whitish spots all over them. I flushed them all a weekago or so and just to be on the safe side I gave them one more watering with no nutes or molasses so its been about 10-11 days now and they sure as shit arnt looking any better. I watered them last night.

My question is do you think I need to go back on the DNF but just use half strength this time??? What should I do? Please help its my first grow!!! Also to note My White rhino doesn't seem to be affected too much but the other 3 Skunks are in bad shape. Hope the pictures do it justice so I can get some help.

The last 2 pics show it the best but there is alot of yellowing and still some curling I'm just worried about giving them more nutes as they had the claw and dark leatherly leaves like a nitrogen overdose.
Please help I'm lost and really dont want to loose them after this much effort!

1st off how much water did you use to flush them with?
2nd its most likely the molasses that did this.
3rd try at have strength just to be safe.

qazwers1 said:

1st off how much water did you use to flush them with?
2nd its most likely the molasses that did this.
3rd try at have strength just to be safe.

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Thanks for the quick responce!

- I flushed them with 35-36 gallons of water between the 4 plants.
- I thought It was the molasses but everyone else swears it wasn't and molasses wont do that.
-I plan on it but just awtered them last night now wishing I gave them some nutes. 20% of the soil mixture is Chicken shit so I thought It would be fine. man I dont want to eff this up

If I watered last night can I still feed them nutes???




Here's a link to my grow theres more pics from before I flushed them.
https://www.rollitup.org/general-marijuana-growing/222549-first-grow-lst-all-criticism-8.html#post3147889

yes you can feed them nutes but since they were just watered i would wait a day or two and try and sort out a moded water schedule until they look better

Da-ham . . . those last two certainly look like spider mite damage?

I've seen molasses seem to result in some leaf yellowing and brown spots, usually upon the first watering with it here. In soil, at that point pH checked low.

MrFishy said:

Da-ham . . . those last two certainly look like spider mite damage?

I've seen molasses seem to result in some leaf yellowing and brown spots, usually upon the first watering with it here. In soil, at that point pH checked low.

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Check out the last page in my grow in my signature. in the second last set of pics you'll see what they looked like a week ago. Also about the mites. I noticed I had them twice. I check my girls every day to every other day and I seen them about a month ago and I sprayed the girls with "Boom" they died off instantly then were back about 2 weekago. I sprayed and away they go. They could be back but I doubt It I look very closly for them but I will go spray with "Boom" asap. can they kill my plants? are they on the verge of dying do you think? Mr.Fishy do you think I should start back on nutes asap as well?

Whats your PH? Would be god to take a reading at different places in 1 pot and at different levels as well. "The Claw" leaves normally tends to be a low PH.

MrFishy said:

Da-ham . . . those last two certainly look like spider mite damage?

I've seen molasses seem to result in some leaf yellowing and brown spots, usually upon the first watering with it here. In soil, at that point pH checked low.

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I;m with MrFishy on the spider mite damage looks pretty extensive now. Look under your lower leaves and see if there is any webs and/or soil clung to the bottoms of the leaves. And it looks like you have some nutrient lock out , like Mrfishy noted your ph is probably low and locking out your npk. Have you checked your ph from the run off water? And what is your ph going in?

Can you post some pics with your hps off and using the flash from your camera?
That would give us a better look at the girls. We'll be able to see more detail and colors of the leaves.

brasmith said:

I;m with MrFishy on the spider mite damage looks pretty extensive now. Look under your lower leaves and see if there is any webs and/or soil clung to the bottoms of the leaves. And it looks like you have some nutrient lock out , like Mrfishy noted your ph is probably low and locking out your npk. Have you checked your ph from the run off water? And what is your ph going in?

Can you post some pics with your hps off and using the flash from your camera?
That would give us a better look at the girls. We'll be able to see more detail and colors of the leaves.

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I'm gonna look closer for spider mites. If I kill them will the girls bounce back and the spots go away? I PH my water at 6.4-6.6 going in. I never tested my runoff before but they have been using this PH level for about 16 weeks now and havn't had a problem yet. It all started when I indrudused the DNF and molasses.

sirsmoksalot said:

I'm gonna look closer for spider mites. If I kill them will the girls bounce back and the spots go away? I PH my water at 6.4-6.6 going in. I never tested my runoff before but they have been using this PH level for about 16 weeks now and havn't had a problem yet. It all started when I indrudused the DNF and molasses.

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If it's not a serious infestation they will not be affected much, after you kill them off i doubt the spots that are already there will go away. But the new growth will be healthy and look normal. Hope you get this worked out, your so close Good luck bro and take care

WonderWhatsNext said:

If it's not a serious infestation they will not be affected much, after you kill them off i doubt the spots that are already there will go away. But the new growth will be healthy and look normal. Hope you get this worked out, your so close Good luck bro and take care

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Thanks, WWN I'm only a month away or so looks like the White Widow will take a couple weeks longer though. I will feed them some nutes in a day or so to see if they can handle them. I hear the DNF runs strong If it had this affect on the girls at full strength do you guys think half strength is good or should I use less then that?

These are the nutes I am using. It's a two part bloom formula part one is like 0-3-3 and part 2 is 3-1.5-3 I think or close to it. Should I go back to my cheap 15-30-15 flowering ferts? The DNF is strong but the NPK numbers are low??? whats up with that? If I use the DNF do I HAVE to use the fortifier???Can someone explain this? I had no problems using the 15-30-15

For the DNF I'm in soil and used 30ml of each part of the DNF to 5 gallons of water.... it says 2.5 ml per liter. I think I wasn't even full strength.