++Hellraizers++ DO AND DONTs and in and outs of the ebb&grow/ebb&flow systems

matatan

matatan

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hey hey! i remember (i believe this thread or maybe one that was deleted awhile back) where someone discussed flood n drain 'best' with NO medium, using a styrofoam board(?) as a top and cut holes for net pots and have roots hang... or something like that..
i have a some questions regarding this method because i want to run a sog using clones from an areocloner and it seems that this method would be ideal because i cant get roots into a rockwool cube from a aerocloner.
i thought about using 6-8in pots w coco but everyone i ask or mention it to says its a bad idea.. lol
your thoughts?
 
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akpaco

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HR, I planted my clones and I'm watering 4 times in 18hrs. They were vegged for a while so they are pretty good size. I noticed today that I'm getting some leaf claw on some of them. Should I cut my watering down to 3 times? Thanks! Might hit the landing on Monday.
 
hellraizer30

hellraizer30

Rebel From The North
Hey akpaco the claw isnt from the floods its from your nutes being a bit to high!
Might want to lower it a bit.

Im gunna be there on monday to, was on fire yesterday :)
 
hellraizer30

hellraizer30

Rebel From The North
matatan said:
hey hey! i remember (i believe this thread or maybe one that was deleted awhile back) where someone discussed flood n drain 'best' with NO medium, using a styrofoam board(?) as a top and cut holes for net pots and have roots hang... or something like that..
i have a some questions regarding this method because i want to run a sog using clones from an areocloner and it seems that this method would be ideal because i cant get roots into a rockwool cube from a aerocloner.
i thought about using 6-8in pots w coco but everyone i ask or mention it to says its a bad idea.. lol
your thoughts?
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I have seen this done it works well, i think its called floataplonics or somthing. Tranfering from aero to this would be easy peasy!
just keep lots of air in the water suporting the floam thats floating.
 
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akpaco

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hellraizer30 said:
Hey akpaco the claw isnt from the floods its from your nutes being a bit to high!
Might want to lower it a bit.

Im gunna be there on monday to, was on fire yesterday :)
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Ok. I'll back it down.. I have a lowe Jon boat with a Honda jet. I'll be slaying those dinks!!!
 
matatan

matatan

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hellraizer30 said:
I have seen this done it works well, i think its called floataplonics or somthing. Tranfering from aero to this would be easy peasy!
just keep lots of air in the water suporting the floam thats floating.
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with airstones? so its like a dwc while the table is flooded and then its not when the water drains??:confused:
 
Metasynth

Metasynth

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matatan said:
with airstones? so its like a dwc while the table is flooded and then its not when the water drains??:confused:
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I know someone who runs flood tables with lids, then has holes cut in the lids. It's what you first described, he floods a few times a day, and the roots just dangle. The only way he can pull this off is he's using very small net pots, and just throwing rooted clones in them with no veg time. He's using the smallest netties he can find, aand just shoving the staarter plugs in them once the clones root. You'd need a ridiculous amount of clones for his system though.
 
hellraizer30

hellraizer30

Rebel From The North
Float a ponics is a tub with water and a peace of blue board or closed cell foam with holes cut in it,
the clone either in a neopream puck or a starter cube is put in the hole with the bottome of the clones
stem in the water with roots submerged. Theres no flooding or draining just currentless water, adding
air will stop the water from going stagnet and helping with keeping bactiria at bay.
 
Sir.Ganga

Sir.Ganga

New Member
hellraizer30 said:
Yah fumble im not going anywhere! Taking a forced brake due to a loss of everything i had cause of stupid power going
Out! And killing my girls :( saved the orange cush clone thank god!
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Ya hellraizer I had the same issue now 2 times where I have lost 20K a pop over automation. I run a DIY flow trays now and water manually, I fill with a pump then drain back to res. Since I took all the automation I have been more in tune with my system. Yes its a little more work but I feel it is also paying dividends with knowledge and quality.
 
hellraizer30

hellraizer30

Rebel From The North
Sir.Ganga said:
Ya hellraizer I had the same issue now 2 times where I have lost 20K a pop over automation. I run a DIY flow trays now and water manually, I fill with a pump then drain back to res. Since I took all the automation I have been more in tune with my system. Yes its a little more work but I feel it is also paying dividends with knowledge and quality.
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Dam bro sucks you had to feel that same sorta pain :( but at least your in a better place with stability! And reliability.
although nature is a beast that cant be controlled.
 
matatan

matatan

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thanx for the replies fellas.
im going the potted coco route, 16-20 per 3x3table, wish me luck i think i will need it lol
 
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akpaco

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HR, are you adjusting your ph with the ph perfect? My ph after adding my nutes only drops to about 6.3. Someone said if I was using the recommended amount it would adjust to around 5.7. But that seems pretty hot to me? Not sure what I should do? Add ph down or use full strengnth? What do you think? Thanks
 
raiderman

raiderman

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i will say the first few yrs were a blast,then its a job ,,jus goin with the grind now it seems.lol.not as impressed with strains like before, tho i gro big plants the fun turned to work /jus a job after13 yrs,ho hum.
 
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