Hello MacGruders! Here's me little inside grow...

KillBud · Oct 15, 2007

I'm baked and bored so here's my very first post... :eyesmoke:

About a month all in. I'm trying soil, but still sold on Hydro, esp DWC.

I'm trying Willie Nelson b/c of rep/difficulty to grow and StrawberryCough b/c I want a PURPLE. :weed:

I should be flowering pretty soon. I gonna grow a little taller but the WN is a straight up Sativa and she's already stretching upward.

Anyways, here's some pics..me brothers and sisters. I try to get week to week. The last was taken right at 1 month. Kinda sux that the start was slow. I used some clone crap instead of my usual Formulex and paid.

The external pump system is my own I designed to make it easy to clean. I hate DWC w/ submersibles. :cuss:

My Plan? Big Ass BUDS. The rest is up to M. Nature.

KillBud

(oh yeah the WN is the top R and the soil, far right, the rest R SC)

Smoke2Live420 · Oct 15, 2007

holy shit...tha hydro plants are growin crazy...the soil is still the same size....how did u set that up...mine could been fuckin huge by now!

Serotonin · Oct 16, 2007

Hydro is zipping along. Is that DWC with a drip going around the base as well?

marky7186 · Oct 16, 2007

Looks nice bro. keep up the good work.

KillBud · Oct 16, 2007

Hey gang, thanks for the kind feedback.

Hi Serotonin. The DWC is an external pump design I made myself. Here's more detailed pics (1-3)

The root systems will fill up a 5 gall bucket if done right, but play Hell with a submersible :mrgreen:

(pic 4).

Big Plants = big buds = Good & Plenty! Here's one from my last grow (pic 5, like I had to tell you)

Cost: Around 12-13 bucks (excluding pump).

Killbud

:joint:

kochab · Oct 16, 2007

looks nice. will comment more tommorow. drunk currently and cant say much sorry. Nice buds though. Looks like the nug im smoking on now too as well. do you know what strain it is?

Serotonin · Oct 17, 2007

Wow man thats pretty sweet... those roots look amazing! Do you add anything like hydroguard?

cali-high · Oct 17, 2007

those look great.

you dwc bucket looks awsome very nice end bud

KillBud · Oct 17, 2007

Hey Serotonin... Nope, no hydroguard, but I do use Rhizotonic first two and Cannazyme starting 2nd week. I also have two airstones in each bucket running from a reef pump. So getting rid of debris, keeping temps down and oxy up are keys.

Check out this root temp chart friend. It's from Univ. of Ohio horticulture department. I'm working on a project, half completed where the res is outside the room (pics 4,5). It's passive but with insulated hose the roots are running 1/2 degree cooler than room temp. Soon I'm going to change it to an active, timed system :clap:

This is based out of some work in Singapore featured in horticulture magazine (gotta dig up the link, very cool work).

kochab - That's AK-47 from a harvest this spring (this bud dried in pic 3). This one was a sativa dominant pheno. I'm smoking it now and it is a brain blaster. Here's a fun fact --AK has the distinction of having won 2nd place best Sativa and 2nd place best Indica in the CCup (two diff years).

Flowering in one week or at two feet. WN is already at 17 inches (topped twice) so it may not be that long LOL.

Killbud

:joint:

kochab · Oct 17, 2007

KillBud said:
Hey Serotonin... Nope, no hydroguard, but I do use Rhizotonic first two and Cannazyme starting 2nd week. I also have two airstones in each bucket running from a reef pump. So getting rid of debris, keeping temps down and oxy up are keys.

Check out this root temp chart friend. It's from Univ. of Ohio horticulture department. I'm working on a project, half completed where the res is outside the room (pics 4,5). It's passive but with insulated hose the roots are running 1/2 degree cooler than room temp. It will increase as the plants get bigger but very soon I'm going to change it to an active, timed system This is based out of some work in Singapore featured in horticulture magazine (gotta dig up the link, very cool work).

kochab - That's AK-47 from a harvest this spring (this bud dried in pic 3). This one was a sativa dominant pheno. I'm smoking it now and it is a brain blaster. Here's a fun fact --AK has the distinction of having won 2nd place best Sativa and 2nd place best Indica in the CCup (two diff years).

Flowering in one week or at two feet. WN is already at 17 inches (topped twice) so it may not be that long LOL.

Killbud

I appreciate it. not that many actually post pics back for people. I may look into growing some ak strain for one of the 4 available slots i have in my next grow

closet.cult · Oct 17, 2007

great grow. nice system. keep us posted.

Serotonin · Oct 17, 2007

Nice KB, after looking at many peoples grows and seeing my shitty 4 net pot dwc, I'm going to buy a decent output airpump and switch to 4, 5 gallong buckets and grow them in that. I will have zero space with what I have.

Your setup is pretty inspiring though! Thanks for the info.

KillBud · Oct 17, 2007

AK was very interesting. I devoted an entire grow to it, because I was interested in its story. I got 4/4 females. Very interesting phenotypes.

There were:

'The Crustacean' - Very dense super smooth sugary buds, went to flower and finished very fast but small yield. (pic 1)

Large sativa dominant (pic 2) that took an extra month but made huge buds with incredible stone. I don't care how 'weed tolerant' you are, this will make you lose your direction!

There was 'the Grape' which was this really nice indy/sativa type bud and we also did some clones in soil which really came out tasty (pic 3 pic 4 is clone of the Grape). The best smelling and aromatic of the lot. Great stone as well.

The Grape I took to Hempfest and up to Vanc. BC to Cannibus Culture. I remember at Hempfest talking to a vendor and him bitching "There's no KIND bud up here". I whipped out a mason jar of the Grape, cracked the lid and said "You mean like this?". :twisted:

kochab · Oct 17, 2007

how did you set up your dwc system? I would like some details because i am planning on re doing the flowering room and i would like to play around with making my dwc systems a bit better @ the same time. that external pump...how does that supply the water with oxygen? I am assuming a bubble wand/stone in the reservoir for the external pump?

KillBud · Oct 17, 2007

Hi Kochab.

The pics I've posted should give you a good start, esp the ones that have the drill sizes on there. You can get almost all of it at HomeDepot and a good hydro store.

DWC actually uses three modes of oxygenation.

The first is when water is drawn through your inert material. This gives you some oxygen.

The second is the oxygenation you add to the water. This gives you a lot more oxygen.

The third is oxygen from the air (where your roots hang down before they touch the water). This is the best oxygenation. BUT the roots have to stay moist.

I use a reef pump (already pictured) for the second part. I use two airstones per bucket. You have to have well oxygenated water b/c in 3 weeks 1/2 the roots are basically sitting in water (well at least some of them), and they love it.

The pumps are Hydor and although come as submersible they will convert to an external. These my hydro store doesn't stock but I get at marine depot (google and you can order off the web).

Peace,

Killbud

:joint:

Serotonin · Oct 18, 2007

Ok, today I'm going to Lowe's so I can get a much bigger reservoir for the plants before they get much bigger. Their roots are already awfully close to each other and I want to let the veg to at least 13" so I know I have to get bigger reservoirs for them.

KB, how do you handle those plants when their root mass gets so insane during a reservoir change?

KillBud · Oct 18, 2007

Oh you're going to love this.

I never lift a plant except in emergencies.

I have a hippy slick method using a waterbed hose. The end just happens to be 1/2 inch which fits everything.

It's two way, so you can either suck water out or put it back in.

I first drain the hydro using the suction part.

Then put water back (from the top) reversing direction. I flush the plants with the clean water for 1-4 hours, suction out, then use my res to refill.

Res is done in similar fashion. I lifted that shit for all of two weeks before I had to find a better way.

I dunno if you can see in the pics but there are valves that I turn on or off to direct the flow of water (so I don't suction from the res when I'm just trying to suction from the plants).

I see no point in lifting a plant unless necessary. I usually never look at the roots unless something starts to go wrong. I have had one instance of root rot (my first grow) and that was because I had an unvented 1000w halide running the room at plus 90F. Other than that, zip.

You have to have a sink or something to screw into closeby but it works awesome! I think it came with the sink adaptor or you can get at Lowes. About 30 bucks, so well worth it. I found this at an aquarium store, maybe you could search online or something. Gotta be easy to find.

Everything else you see I put together myself.

KillBud · Oct 20, 2007

These pics are a week from the last.

I moved WN back a bit and moved them apart. Once I know how many fem's I have I'll do the final adjustments before starting training. The soil is in the corner. Man, I really suck at soil. heh heh...

I put in the second light (600w HPS). Drove the room temps up 4 degrees. The water is running 2.5 degrees behind (pic). I am going to work on reducing that by making the res system active and put it on a timer to change the water once daily. It will help stabilize ph n' stuff too.

I don't know if I should swap out the 1000WAgroSun for another HPS. I have 'em both so no big, but has anyone used the AS through flower?

The Willie Nelson is growing a little more than an inch a day and not in flower (gulp). I will be starting the 12/12 2morrow.

Camera was cold and got fogged initially but I thought the shot looked cool.

Killbud

:joint:

darknight · Oct 20, 2007

KillBud said:
You have to have a sink or something to screw into closeby but it works awesome! I think it came with the sink adaptor or you can get at Lowes. About 30 bucks, so well worth it. I found this at an aquarium store, maybe you could search online or something. Gotta be easy to find.

yea, that adapter is easy to find. they sell it at walmart in the aquarium area for people that have more than a couple fish tanks and don't wanna do all the water hauling. they call it the water python or something like that at wallyworld. i think it's even cheaper, like about $20-$25.

KillBud · Oct 29, 2007

Hey mang(s)

Argh, crappy crappy times. So far 2 males 1 female. I'm worried the Willie might have a willy too.

Well, I got 4/4 fem's last time I grew so I guess this balances it out. I have clones of the SC, here's hoping she's purple. 2 plants left and that soil.

Check out the roots on the one I pulled. First time I ever saw 'em. LOL...

I had my first batch of bubble hash as consolation tho!

It was 50% Kali Mist NUGZ that got screwed up (molded but more odor, none you could see) and 50% assorted trim.

It turned out freakin great, the key is starting with ice cold water. We used a hose and man I swear it was 40f.

So gotta roll with the news. Bummed but oh well...

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