Hello, Guerilla 2011

tristynhawk

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hey guys what's up i grow outside in your neighboring state i will be watching this thread as im looking to use organics this year to try and increase yield past two years i have only averaged 2 ounces a plant sometimes more sometimes less
i always used triple 19 but im wanting to use better nutes this year\

blood meal and bone meal huh might have to look into it

for first time ordered me some seeds alwways used bag seed i got 90 female seeds from nirvana mostly aurora indica and northern lights
 

allen bud

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wow that poppie is a beautiful! I plane on mixing some soil in house then put it in the holes peat,blood and bone meal and some vermiculite so it doesnt compact to much ,we have alot of clay in soil around here.Any thing i should add to my mix?
 

ThinkSayMakeDo

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I agree, peat moss is a good thing.
It's real acidic though and usually needs an alkaline substance to balance the ph. The blood and bone meal you used last year did just that. They're my preference too. I only add (slow release) lime after the end of the season.

My curiosity was sparked by the combo you're using this year.

'Soil For Plants - 45% Premier Peat Moss 45% Native Soil 8-9% Perlite 1-2% Sunleaves Peruvian Seabird Guano'.

I've never tried to grow with a ph lower than 6.7, so you can imagine how excited I am to watch their progress!
Hm. Good point. I never looked much into soil and fertilizer pH much until now, especially not my local pH, which I'm still leaning towards it not being exactly what I read.. but I'll do tests before I go naysaying. Supposedly, it was mostly the bone meal (containing calcium carbonate - the same substance in dolomite lime that serves as a pH buffer) that worked as a pH buffer. But I'm not so interested in using it this year, wanna try the guanos, mostly because I have a buddy who does indoor soil with guano and the taste is always so much more excellent in his buds no matter what. So.. I'll have to probably use oyster shells as a pH up, for they aren't too 'hot' like dolo lime is. They're a tad more expensive - 15.5 oz for $3 as compared to bone meal at 6$ for 3lb. Plus I still have to get a flower nutrient. **So, for more reasons now, I still stand by my "cheapest soil mix" being that of Peat Moss, Native Soil, Blood Meal, and Bone Meal - for those of you wondering what the best you can get for the cheapest is** I'll leave a plant or two untreated just to see the comparison.
Good to have ya watchin'
hey guys what's up i grow outside in your neighboring state i will be watching this thread as im looking to use organics this year to try and increase yield past two years i have only averaged 2 ounces a plant sometimes more sometimes less
i always used triple 19 but im wanting to use better nutes this year\

blood meal and bone meal huh might have to look into it

for first time ordered me some seeds alwways used bag seed i got 90 female seeds from nirvana mostly aurora indica and northern lights
Yeah, as I said in response to the quote above, it's the cheapest and seemingly best quality mix you can do for yourself. It balances soil pH, gives you good NPK and micronutrients, and provides well draining soil. There's more that can be added to make it a richer soil, but they're not necessary. Good luck to you and you grow.
wow that poppie is a beautiful! I plane on mixing some soil in house then put it in the holes peat,blood and bone meal and some vermiculite so it doesnt compact to much ,we have alot of clay in soil around here.Any thing i should add to my mix?
Nothing you really need to add. I've heard of the use of products like SuperThrive or Marine Cuisine, I believe to help encourage strong growth when the plant is starting off (though, I may be wrong, heh.) But I haven't used these to have any real experience to share with ya.
 

shizz

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have clay needs organic matter. i like alapha pellets mix as much as you want in that soil youll love what it does.
 

shizz

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yep good stuff. i havbe even done outdoor grows in clay where i dug a 10x 10 hole 3 feet deep and put down a bail of alpha. grew great.
 

chronic coinoisseur

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Just found this threat and read through last years as well. Very impressive stuff man lots of hard work and effort put in I hope it pays out this year. Im guerilla growing in 5 gallon buckets this year but the more I research the more I see the benefits of digging holes and amending the soil, will definately try it out next year, maybe even get digging right now and really get the soil active and thriving. Problem is i grow in maine and a lot of our soil can be rocky so its all location location location. Have you put your plants out yet for this year? I just germed a batch of seeds yesterday and am hoping to put out within 2-3 weeks. Good luck man I hope things are well
 
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iliketv

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yeah but he seemed pretty into his threads.. strange to not say bye.
 

wahdey

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What do you mean the finish surveying area in july, do you mean the helicopters are looking. From my understanding they start to look in september until end of october.
 

ThinkSayMakeDo

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Sorry everyone, got caught up with work and shit this year workin 15 days in a row and shit... Still got a little something going, but I don't have much time to check them or anything, so I'm not anticipating much. Also, it's been dry as fuck this year so some of the ones I haven't checked in a while I expect to be fried. I'm rejoining now because I'll soon be starting a new journal for 2012, which I'm hoping to be my year of all years, heh. I'll try to get some pics up of the current situation just to show how when you give your plants little attention, it reflects. And who knows, maybe they'll amount to something.
- In response to wahdey : Trust me, and if you don't believe me, look at my last years journal. It's different for every county.
 

ThinkSayMakeDo

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Alllllright.. found my camera today and decided I would go take some shots to show ya'll what I've been....doing? More so not-doing, and what results I've gotten out of not doing much work at all.
(Also, this will be a nice Before/After Irene.)
Pic 1-4 : A clone from some bagseed that I was growin indoors for the past 8 months, great smoke. This was put out probably mid-June, no amendments, very little watering aside from rain, and only one spray of bug defense (organocide - works alright, pretty natural, smells like tacklebox) She's about 3 ft, nothing great but considering I just dropped her in the ground and left her, she did good and looks good.

Now to the good part.
All of these next photos were from some random bagseed and GDPxBubblegum that I mixed up somewhere along the lines. Anyway, they were all germinated July 1st-3rd. They were put outside in SOLO cups July 5th-14th(here they suffered a good bit). July 15th they all received a 10 gallon grow bag to replace their 16oz SOLO nightmare. Annnnd this is them now. They all got a nice mixture of a great local soil company - rich in organic materials, compost, and worm castings, premier peat moss, perlite, and seabird guano.
Pic 5 : The two plants closest to the entrance, used to be 3(male).
Pic 6-9 : Either pH or nutrient toxicity badly effected this plant from the get-go, turned out to be a lady.
Pic 10-11 : The plant you can mostly see in Pic 5. She's doing very well, getting pretty eaten up right now cause I've only sprayed once, but budding a lot and smellin' good.
Pic 12 : The other two. One male, one female.
Pic 13-15 : Male. I know what you're probably thinking - "Rip it up!, Burn that dude!, Males are bad, rah, rah, rah!" But...no. This is a Beautiful male, AND the only plant I'm certain is GDPxBubblegum. Also, a relief that it's not a herm, thought my GDPxBG seeds were tainted.
Pic 16-20 : The other of the other two...(?) A beautiful female, vigorous and strong growth, seemingly very pest resistant, and quite smelly. Though I'm noticing it's not as crystally as I'd like, but I've been surprised. This one will likely be bred with my stud plant.
The rest of the pics are just some of the same breed of clone as the first pics that got drowned out by native plants, or had native plants get knocked over on top of them. Silly. And one of my bags that something keeps stealing dirt from, not sure what it is, nor am I too concerned so long as it leaves my babies alone.
Well, there ya have it. The possibilities of neglected guerilla cannabis. Joy.
Next year though...that'll be a show.
I'll be sure to keep ya'll posted on this so long as I haven't completely let this thread die off. Neglect is my game, evidently.
 

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niknasty

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i would say get the male out but i see you want to breed your GDP strain with that healthy female. Might get pollunated bud this year but a nice strain for indoor or next years grow.
 
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