Heisenbeans Genetics

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Turpman

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Heisenbeans said:
Current strains I'm using. These are all the clone onlys and took me a minute to find them. I got a few on trade when I lucked up and got a cut that alot of people wanted so I knew the right people to make trades with. In the clone game it's just a matter of knowing who has what and what they want for it. I've gotten clones just by knowing what someone else wanted and me not personally needing it but knowing someone else who had it to get the one I wanted.

Here's the list

Katsu bubba kush
East coast sour diesel not the rez cut
91 chem skunk va
Ghost OG
Gorilla glue #4 joseys cut ( fuck him)
Wedding cake J jbeezy cut
Wedding pie cannarado cut
Adub (Atlanta cut
Sundae driver 19
Purple punch symbiotic cut
Sunset sherbert
Lava Cake #6
Orange daquri #1
Topanga canyon OG JungleBoys cut
Black banana cookies #9 solfire cut
Jet fuel OG
Stardawg Corey Cut
Mac1 caps cut
GMO

Alien OG ( selected from 400 seeds is all I know)
Had slurricane but it sucked so I killed it super low yielder

LOOKING for animal cookies 09 but people claiming they have it are fake and have no flower pics go figure. Also looking for triangle kush.

I'll be pheno hunting 400 black banana cookie X wedding cake in a couple months to find more clone only keepers.
Also wanna do a wedding cake X GG4 project to have a bad ass bridezilla to Make BX seeds to give out
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I thinks your going to need a bigger weed shed soon.
That's a shit tun of work just keeping that many cuts, let alone cloning, crossing, harvesting seed so on so on so on.........dont burn yourself out. We need seed.LOl
 
VillageAnt

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Greenthumbskunk said:
Will this set up be good for flower in a 3x3 footprint?
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Yes, but it would be the BARE minimum. Many will tell you that with QBs/strips ypu need 30 watts/sqft, so that would match with a 2 x 4 space. A 3 x 3 would be one extra sqft, so minimum would really be 270 watts. I don't think it would make that much difference.

However, IMO, you really need 40 watts/sqft, so for a 3 x 3 I would shoot for 360 watts. You could run the four QB132s on a HLG-320H-36A. If you run at full blast, you will be running them a little hotter than their rated 75 watts each, but I do that in one of my spaces and it's fine. You could also dim it down to 300 watts and you would be running them at exactly their rated wattage. To get more efficient and a little cooler, you could ideally run six QB132s on that 320 watt driver.

If I was setting up a new 3 x 3 space right now, I would get two QB96 Elite V2s with heatsinks for $100 each and run them with a HLG-320H-54A ($80). So, around $300 for that.

HLG is selling that very fixture, that you can put together for $300, for $800 right now. They call it the HLG 360.
 
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VillageAnt

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whytewidow said:
EB series 1 footers have been run free air at 700mA no problems whatsoever none of my light builds have any heatsinks. Jus aluminum frame. The only reason eb series need to be mounted on is bc they are flimsy. They have an epoxy base pcb instead of alum. Theres a dude on here that has been running free aired eb series for over 17 months. Not one single outage or problem. 12hrs a day every day.
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So, are you saying I need to attach the strips to pieces of aluminum? Sort of the same way a heatsink would be attached? Or do you simply mean the ends of the strips need to be connnected to a frame? If they must be attached the same way as a heatsink, would that be just basic aluminum strips or u-channel? How would I attach them....tape, glue, screws?

Also, do you run any other types of strips without heatsinks? I would be all over strips if I didn't need heatsinks.

I was always wondering if I could just use twice as many strips and run them at half power without a heatsink.
 
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Greenthumbskunk

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VillageAnt said:
Yes, but it would be the BARE minimum. Many will tell you that with QBs/strips ypu need 30 watts/sqft, so that would match with a 2 x 4 space. A 3 x 3 would be one extra sqft, so minimum would really be 270 watts. I don't think it would make that much difference.

However, IMO, you really need 40 watts/sqft, so for a 3 x 3 I would shoot for 360 watts. You could run the four QB132s on a HLG-320H-36A. If you run at full blast, you will be running them a little hotter than their rated 75 watts each, but I do that in one of my spaces and it's fine. You could also dim it down to 300 watts and you would be running them at exactly their rated wattage. To get more efficient and a little cooler, you could ideally run six QB132s on that 320 watt driver.

If I was setting up a new 3 x 3 space right now, I would get two QB96 Elite V2s with heatsinks for $100 each and run them with a HLG-320H-54A ($80). So, around $300 for that.

HLG is selling that very fixture, that you can put together for $300, for $800 right now. They call it the HLG 360.
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Thanks for the reply. Ya I've checked out their prices and decided to pass on them doing it. I'd rather save the $500 and do it myself.
 
Mr.Head

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VillageAnt said:
So, are you saying I need to attach the strips to pieces of aluminum? Sort of the same way a heatsink would be attached? Or do you simply mean the ends of the strips need to be connnected to a frame? If they must be attached the same way as a heatsink, would that be just basic aluminum strips or u-channel? How would I attach them....tape, glue, screws?

Also, do you run any other types of strips without heatsinks? I would be all over strips if I didn't need heatsinks.

I was always wondering if I could just use twice as many strips and run them at half power without a heatsink.
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Kapton tape and screws both work. I think there's adhesive thermal pads.

You can certainly run them at 350ma and not need a heat sink of any kind, I don't know how great they'll be for growing. Not sure how the power curve effects light output, have to ask the expert that one :). I use 350ma strips in 3500k and 4000k to give a little different spectrum more than anything else, they don't get hot at all. I can wrap my hand around them. I have them taped to my COB frame with 0 heat sink.
 
Jesselikes2grow

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Very productive last week. Banana cookies S1 on preorder. Yay. Thanks Heisen for living the good life. Veg light frame built, just got to add the lights etc now. New 4x8 flower room walls n door built, just needs paint now. More cobs and a driver coming Monday for the additional flower light. Damn, I think I need a 2nd job to pay for all this lol. Maybe even a 3rd one to pay the electric bill after all the lights are running. LMFAO!!!
 
Traptito

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Heathen Raider said:
I am going to nickname my RV tub the model 8200

Hey bud so was it You or your boy choir members saying everyone here is fuck Boi idiots because when You and Your old school draft dodging cowards were smoking weed and dressing in Your Sisters clothes some of us were fighting killing and dying so You could sit in a basement and give Yourself some jolly pirate nickname of OG lol
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Brooo really said "Old school draft dodging cowards" RIP LMAOOO
 
TerpyTyrone

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My el Salvadorian brother seems excited!!
The heisen bastard seeds didnt pop.
I didnt preorder the mac1 x BBC , yet.
In the mean time ,
Seedsman - Jack herrer, Bruce banger, amnesia AF
Garden of green- cookie monster AF
Crop King- Blueberry
Mr. Nice - Early SkunkHaze

4 x 4 x 80.
Will try and put together my dumpster find 3500k recessed can lights that I will use for flower. In the meantime I have a t12 2x4 that has 3 led 3500k bulbs.
I used these as side lighting in the past with a 1000 w hps. But that was in a 6 x 8 concrete room in a basement. At my moms, of course. So I will usd something more energy and temp efficient while in someone elzes house running in dirt.
I used old coco 50/50 fox farns ocean forest. Next up,pot I'm deciding on what to use.
I have reaearched the TLO, ACT, some sipsystem this guy on RIU keeps informing me of.
Hahahaha
Any good recipes?0222191926.jpg 0222191749.jpg
 
TerpyTyrone

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Capture+_2019-02-23-07-36-20.png A stolen pic obviously!
I like the design .I may patent this myself hahahahah
I'm thinking electrical pvc 1/2" , bent using a heat gun and placed into a 3/4" plumbing tee?
Hahahaha I'm thieving
 
ThatSpudGuy

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Jesselikes2grow said:
Very productive last week. Banana cookies S1 on preorder. Yay. Thanks Heisen for living the good life. Veg light frame built, just got to add the lights etc now. New 4x8 flower room walls n door built, just needs paint now. More cobs and a driver coming Monday for the additional flower light. Damn, I think I need a 2nd job to pay for all this lol. Maybe even a 3rd one to pay the electric bill after all the lights are running. LMFAO!!!
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i hear you bro my new tent and light build is costing a fortune my other half is gonna kill me if she figures out exactly how much ive spent lol
 
whytewidow

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VillageAnt said:
So, are you saying I need to attach the strips to pieces of aluminum? Sort of the same way a heatsink would be attached? Or do you simply mean the ends of the strips need to be connnected to a frame? If they must be attached the same way as a heatsink, would that be just basic aluminum strips or u-channel? How would I attach them....tape, glue, screws?

Also, do you run any other types of strips without heatsinks? I would be all over strips if I didn't need heatsinks.

I was always wondering if I could just use twice as many strips and run them at half power without a heatsink.
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You can run the 560mm lengths ones at 700mA with zero heat sinks. If you go above that I'd use alum angle or or u channel. But 700mA and down all u need is alum frame to mount each end on. To jus hold the strip. I run eb series gen 2s, f series gen 3s, and H inFlux_L06 strips. Mounting any of those strips to jus 1x1 alum angle is plenty. No need for actual heatsinks. I have f series, eb series, h inFlux_L06 strips in multiple tents all only mounted to 1/16th thick alum angle. None of them get hot. You can lay your face on any of them.
 
whytewidow

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Mr.Head said:
Kapton tape and screws both work. I think there's adhesive thermal pads.

You can certainly run them at 350ma and not need a heat sink of any kind, I don't know how great they'll be for growing. Not sure how the power curve effects light output, have to ask the expert that one :). I use 350ma strips in 3500k and 4000k to give a little different spectrum more than anything else, they don't get hot at all. I can wrap my hand around them. I have them taped to my COB frame with 0 heat sink.
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You can run eb series 560mm up to 700mA without a heatsink.
 
VillageAnt

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whytewidow said:
I use the 2ft ones bc its cheaper to use 2 two footers to make a 4 footer than it is to buy a 4 footer. I dont have any 1120mm strips being used. All 560mm or 280mm.
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In that photo you posted you have 16 2ft strips. Are you running that 500 watts into them? So that's like 30 watts per strip. Is that their max rated wattage?
 
whytewidow

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VillageAnt said:
In that photo you posted you have 16 2ft strips. Are you running that 500 watts into them? So that's like 30 watts per strip. Is that their max rated wattage?
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Bridgelux rates the 560mm max 1400mA, but they can handle alot more. I've pushed 2400mA through them only mounted on 1" U channel from lowes. For an entire flower run. With only a fan blowing on the back. Nothing else. Mounted with thermal tape. Not 1.problem. they can be over driven 2x's but I wouldnt recommend it without really good cooling.

I'm running 16 strips total. 8 on HLG-240H-c1400a and the other 8 on the same driver.
21.6vdc @1.4A for a total of 30.24w per strip. For a total of 483.84w but I use A type drivers. 8 strips on the hlg-240h-c1400a will hit 252w. For a total of 504w if I wanted. But I dont need that much. I'll probably run them around 450w total.
 
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