Heisenbeans Genetics

Old Thcool said:

No dude, this business has had many years of shops getting busted, houses getting busted, people getting busted and the list goes on. We are all smoking, eating and selling weed in one form or another, We know it, the government knows it! It ain't no secret! Do you think uncle Sam thinks Yall are composting all that extra weed you can't smoke? Selling seed as exotic bird seed or whatever is the mechanism folks are using to smokescreen the feds. You don't think they know that? It's a risk you take when you buck the system, no different than doing cash jobs and not claiming on your income tax! I have been smoking weed for over 40 years dude!

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Then you should know better than to ask someone some stupid shit like...

Old Thcool said:

Or are you just attempting to avoid paying tax on your income? Just asking?

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I'm done.. Not trying to fall down this rabbit hole. I wish you the best on your journey bro

Old Thcool said:

Unhook your face from that bong dude take a breath of air once in a while.

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This is funny since he tokes less in a year than most of us in a month some of us in a week

Heisenbeans said:

Theres alot of reasons other than the obvious, Ill have credit card payment options as well but i honestly would prefer to not do tracking, ill have the tracking number to check the order myself but there is alot of haters in this business. if the wrong person recieves a tracking number they have a direct link to what was mailed to them. proof of payment, tracking and than they recieve the seeds lol. When someone pays for the seeds all they need to know is when they will be arriving and if there is a problem ill take care of it. This shit aint amazon. Ive seen and learned enough from other peoples fuck ups not to mke those same mistakes. Mine and other peoples security far outweigh someones convenience.

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Thanks for taking our security into account. I would rather stay off the radar than be able to use a CC. there is always a paper trail online if the feds want to crack down on people. Better to stay secure until It gets rescheduled

blowincherrypie said:

Then you should know better than to ask someone some stupid shit like...



I'm done.. Not trying to fall down this rabbit hole. I wish you the best on your journey bro

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Many businesses that do cash only to avoid contributing to society, are doing legitimate businesses harm by damaging the reputation of the industry. Mark Emery had the balls to pay taxes on the seed he sold here in BC and he payed by being arrested many times. His shops busted and harassed many times. He was instrumental in the state of Canada’s pot laws as they are today. Be a man and fight for what you believe in.

Old Thcool said:

Many businesses that do cash only to avoid contributing to society, are doing legitimate businesses harm by damaging the reputation of the industry. Mark Emery had the balls to pay taxes on the seed he sold here in BC and he payed by being arrested many times. His shops busted and harassed many times. He was instrumental in the state of Canada’s pot laws as they are today. Be a man and fight for what you believe in.

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Bro.. I feel the sentiment, I really do, but a lot of us have wife/kids/parents that depend on us staying out of the penitentiary. At this point in my life I'm all about calculating and minimizing risks.. whether financial/legal whatever. Some are more willing than others to take the risks, and more power to them, but currently I've gotta let the next man be the marijuana martyr if you feel me?

Old Thcool said:

Many businesses that do cash only to avoid contributing to society, are doing legitimate businesses harm by damaging the reputation of the industry. Mark Emery had the balls to pay taxes on the seed he sold here in BC and he payed by being arrested many times. His shops busted and harassed many times. He was instrumental in the state of Canada’s pot laws as they are today. Be a man and fight for what you believe in.

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Only going to say this piece and leave the discussion at that:

Old heads from the 80's and 90's are more distrustful of government's "good intentions" due to the drug war. Government's are hierarchies and hierarchies are currently orchestrated and managed by humans. Because no other human will ever have your best interest in mind, it is not possible to ever be truly well represented in government. Nevermind how the general election process works (most states are "winner takes all" electoral college votes) which effectively causes the majority to be subjected to the whims of the minority from the beginning. Then there is the issue of ineffective policy change and special interest groups lobbying for political influence. Once you factor in the accelerating pace of information dissemination and technological advancement (of which process improvement -- industrial or otherwise -- is super important) you quickly realize that all those old guys in the Senate are completely and totally disconnected from anything and everything that might matter to you.

Lastly, consider this: society =/= government. Once you understand and internalize this truism, you begin to see government for what it really is -- the last bastions of group identity (aka tribalism).

blowincherrypie said:

Bro.. I feel the sentiment, I really do, but a lot of us have wife/kids/parents that depend on us staying out of the penitentiary. At this point in my life I'm all about calculating and minimizing risks.. whether financial/legal whatever. Some are more willing than others to take the risks, and more power to them, but currently I've gotta let the next man be the marijuana martyr if you feel me?

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I certainly do. I like the fact that this has become a discussion instead of harassing each other. I see no benefit in being dinks to each other. I admit I don't edit my opinions and thought s very well but I do mean well. For sure, it's not for everyone to carry the torch but those that pay the price deserve the reward! I did my early years in Cali so I'm not unfamiliar with the states, somebody down there made changes for the good? And I'm sure many went down trying!
Man in my hood , here in the mountains, not too many years ago, we had helicopters every day searching the hills and deploying " the quad squad " to bust all the outdoor shows. Now there are only air ambulance and private copters. The only thing outdoor growers fear now is rippers and deer. Weed is basically free for those that just want to smoke now and then. Super easy to find.
Go easy man I'm not your enemy.

heh... Hesien drops a list and all hell breaks loose.

quiescent said:

Yeah.... I'd say his stuff is up there in price for what it is. Super polyhybrid feminized to a sorry list of clones (the list is very unimpressive, most chuckers have a better stable than that) or some overpriced regular beans.

I'm sure it's good stuff but I'm sorry, on paper it isn't competitive with what heisen is doing.

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Are you really disrespecting my brother Inkognyto? Sorry clones? lol you have no idea who Ink is, he has clones that you and Heisen will never have. I love it when people who have been growing 1, 2,3, 5 years think they are the cats meow. Growers like me and Ink have over 25 years. You can't name a clone that Ink doesn't have, just because he BREEDS lines instead of just reversing flavors of the month doesn't mean his clone list is sorry.

If you want "ease" of purchase and just have to use a credit card -save it for McDonalds. If you want seeds bought discreetly with no paper trails, no proof of purchase tying you to said product, and no chance of getting ripped off by a Chinese card processing company, then pay with cash and never have it sent to your grow spot. Nobody cares about your personal protection more than you. Everyone is so worried about "ease of buying" these days that they compromise themselves for the ease of using a card because they dont wanna go to the post office.....then gripe when things go sideways or when they get their card number ripped off and get charged $2000 for items they never ordered.

AmericanGrower508 said:

Are you really disrespecting my brother Inkognyto? Sorry clones? lol you have no idea who Ink is, he has clones that you and Heisen will never have. I love it when people who have been growing 1, 2,3, 5 years think they are the cats meow. Growers like me and Ink have over 25 years. You can't name a clone that Ink doesn't have, just because he BREEDS lines instead of just reversing flavors of the month doesn't mean his clone list is sorry.

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That goes both ways,I have clones you nor him will EVER get your hands on. It aint what you know its who you know.

Heisenbeans said:

That goes both ways,I have clones you nor him will EVER get your hands on. It aint what you know its who you know.

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And none of you know Ink.... lolol I'm done...

Heisenbeans said:

That goes both ways,I have clones you nor him will EVER get your hands on. It aint what you know its who you know.

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If you believe it it must be true..lol
You may have clones he doesn't have but only because he didn't keep it.
Do you know Inks seed company name Illuminatti does that name sound familiar to you. We have been doing this a long time.

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If you believe it it must be true..lol
You may have clones he doesn't have but only because he didn't keep it.
Do you know Inks seed company name Illuminatti does that name sound familiar to you. We have been doing this a long time.

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Yeah thats the resason, I'll go with that

HydroRed said:

If you want "ease" of purchase and just have to use a credit card -save it for McDonalds. If you want seeds bought discreetly with no paper trails, no proof of purchase tying you to said product, and no chance of getting ripped off by a Chinese card processing company, then pay with cash and never have it sent to your grow spot. Nobody cares about your personal protection more than you. Everyone is so worried about "ease of buying" these days that they compromise themselves for the ease of using a card because they dont wanna go to the post office.....then gripe when things go sideways or when they get their card number ripped off and get charged $2000 for items they never ordered.

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I'm the same way. I hope some of these breeders are protecting our information as much as theirs. I bet only a few are and don't know the reach of the gov't. I think the most logical concern is if they reschedule it to say 2 and want to outlaw home growing it's a wise idea to stay off any lists just in case. It seems to me that Heisen has thought about us and himself which I appreciate. Some seed banks are taking more protective measures, some know the right thing to do and don't care, and then some are oblivious about protecting online data as they're not technical people. I am sticking to the vendors in the #1 category where possible.

rollinfunk said:

I'm the same way. I hope some of these breeders are protecting our information as much as theirs. I bet only a few are and don't know the reach of the gov't. I think the most logical concern is if they reschedule it to say 2 and want to outlaw home growing it's a wise idea to stay off any lists just in case. It seems to me that Heisen has thought about us and himself which I appreciate. Some seed banks are taking more protective measures, some know the right thing to do and don't care, and then some are oblivious about protecting online data as they're not technical people. I am sticking to the vendors in the #1 category where possible.

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Big brother is always watching you regardless of how careful you are...I just stay small enough that I'm not worth his time. I don't even produce enough for myself to last thru the year and only gift to family and close friends, never ever sold and never gets outside my close circle.

Ginger Viking said:

Big brother is always watching you regardless of how careful you are...I just stay small enough that I'm not worth his time. I don't even produce enough for myself to last thru the year and only gift to family and close friends, never ever sold and never gets outside my close circle.

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Same. I'm staying small to stay off the radar. I could go bigger but trying to keep my bills down. Even though i'm in a legal state I still don't trust any gov't/police until it's declassified as it should be. Treat it the same as craft beer.

CannaBruh said:

Cool man, frame it as a for profit company like it is and you'll have no issues with me.

Miss me with the whole "not be greedy seed seller company" nonsense.

I've given away thousands and thousands of beans of elite gear in the last year alone, and even took care of the expedited shipping... that's how to not be greedy.

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Hook a brother up.....

Old Thcool said:

Don't want to know it. How do you think other businesses do it? They have an account that funds are deposited into. Maybe you are the one that's dumb as shit? Unhook your face from that bong dude take a breath of air once in a while.
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Wow, you're just rolling from thread to thread being insulting Why don't you stop calling people trolls and other ad hominem attacks, quiet down and learn.

Old Thcool said:

I certainly do. I like the fact that this has become a discussion instead of harassing each other. I see no benefit in being dinks to each other. I admit I don't edit my opinions and thought s very well but I do mean well. For sure, it's not for everyone to carry the torch but those that pay the price deserve the reward! I did my early years in Cali so I'm not unfamiliar with the states, somebody down there made changes for the good? And I'm sure many went down trying!
Man in my hood , here in the mountains, not too many years ago, we had helicopters every day searching the hills and deploying " the quad squad " to bust all the outdoor shows. Now there are only air ambulance and private copters. The only thing outdoor growers fear now is rippers and deer. Weed is basically free for those that just want to smoke now and then. Super easy to find.
Go easy man I'm not your enemy.

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Lots of us ky, folks been to prison for growing weed,it is no fun.Have the feds, to say your mofia when your just a weed grower.fuck the law pot is NOT LEGAL IN NO DAM STATE.jUST ASK THE FEDS.