heat problems and electreic bill problems solved!!!!

I guess what I mean is that LED's do not have the intensity or penetrating power of HID's

what about those cfl HID's... fluorex ... i want to try them at osh and home depot they are like $26 for a 26w.... 200w equvelent..... on the site they have the ones that use 65w equvelent of 500w..

Lights of America Fluorex Fluorescent Flood Light

thats a 65 watt CFL they make 105 watt and 125 watt also wich work fairly well for veg.
i personally never used mine for flower so i cant speak to that but i do know my 105 watt cfl was bright as hell and worked well for veg'in my mothers

im not talking about normal lights ... they have to run off a ballest its not a built in ballest like normal clfs

Ha yeah we have those bulbs in the fixtures outside the restaurant I work at
They are very bright and I was wondering the same thing
thats expensive though

yeah i been wondering i was just thinking of buying the cheap one thats 13w for only $19 its supposed to be like the 150w... if u have access to the light see if it gets hot... i was thinking about putting one of those in a two drawer metal filing cabinet... and i want to know if it would get too hot for in there

I found 150w hps vapor tights for $20 for the bulb & fixture

that link i gave you was for extra 4 bulbs with it ... the normal price for fixture and one bulb is about $35-40... here is a diff link to show you

Lights Of America #9266 65W Fluorex Flood Light - Light Fixture, Exterior Fluorescent - Exterior Light Fixtures

Product Description:
65W, Bronze, Fluorex Security Flood Light, Lights Up To 2580 SQFT, Dusk To Dawn Operation, Color Corrective Blue Rich Full Spectrum Lamp Provides Superior Light Quality For Night Vision(available in red as well), 70% More Efficient Than Mercury Vapor, 40% More Efficient Than High Pressure Sodium, Operates In Temperatures To -20, Instant Strike & Restrike, No Ballast Hum....

i think it only says its more efficcient then MV and HPS because the MV and HPS temps are way higher so u have to have it further from plant... the flourex light isnt that hot so u can have it up next to the plant.... so it actualy equals out pretty good... its either temp or distance in this problem.....

sweet link to that guy doing the crazy micro grow. I was amazed........

I think CFL is a great way to go for anyone not wanting to have crazy cords and ballasts all over their house. The micro guy was pumping more than enough weed out to supply most any dopehead a personal stash every month as well as enough to dole out for covering the electricity bill.......in full.

crazy... I bought the 85w one from Lights of America. I was pissed when I found out it wouldn't work in a normal mogul socket. It has to have the ballast with it which takes up space... a lot. I would advise you to find a different type of light because mine is a piece of shit and I'm gonna pawn it! I didn't just buy the bulb, but the whole unit for 60$. It isn't worth 5 dollars. Get a 3-5 socket vanity strip. Ive seen them for 10$ or less. buy however many y adapters you need to fill in the sockets. Costco has 6count 6500k cfl packs for 4 dollars. way better investment in my opinion

yeah i bought the 65w bulb for $10 and when i got home found out it cant go in the socket so i got ahold of a 70w hps flood light and tryed the bulb in there ... nothing... and then i was mad.. i got a 13w one for free... it produces very "sun" like light.. in the bathroom it looks like it has a window... lol... but its not a screw in bulb....

and yeah i made my own kinda light ficture thing.... https://www.rollitup.org/do-yourself/117244-diy-cfl-fixture.html
thats what im using now and its nice....