Health Care “Reform” by Insiders: Media Fails to Report Conflicts of Interest

ttystikk · Apr 21, 2017

An interesting article about health care and the influence of big health care corporations on 'academic presentations';

http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2017...uo-media-fails-report-conflicts-interest.html

Rob Roy · Apr 21, 2017

Obama Care relies on the use of or threat of offensive force. The onus of explaining why something that uses that means is rational falls to the proponents of it. It is impossible (and self evident) to use offensive force as a primary means to create a "good", since the "bad" means cannot be separated from the result.

In other words Obama Care relies on the suspension of logic. It uses duplicity and requires a person to think that an act which is wrong for person A to do, threaten force, can somehow become right if another person (a smiling government thug) does it. The nature of an act is intrinsic and doesn't change with the identity of the perpetrator.

Fuck Obama Care.

Rob Roy · Apr 21, 2017

Justin-case said:
Funny, he was elected twice running on the garantee of universal health care.

Fuck you too, Rob.

How does a majority of people falsely believing in something contradictory on its face change something to not being a contradiction?

There's no need to cast dispersions, simply because your arguments are feeble.

Justin-case · Apr 21, 2017

Rob Roy said:
How does a majority of people falsely believing in something contradictory on its face change something to not being a contradiction?

There's no need to cast dispersions, simply because your arguments are feeble.

You're a walking, talking contradiction.

Rob Roy · Apr 21, 2017

ttystikk said:
So you're defending the 'right' of a non human entity to make life and death decisions based on its own profit interest?

That's a new low, even for you.

Fuck you, Rob.

Health care is a human right, not a profit maximization opportunity.

No. I am defending the right of a person to chose how the fruit of their labor is applied, or not.

You are defending the idea that person(s) A has a right to dictate to person(B) and rationalizing the use of offensive force to ensure it.

No person has a right to run another persons life. Your idea shits on that principle.

Rob Roy · Apr 21, 2017

Justin-case said:
You're a walking, talking contradiction.

Actually I'm sitting down.

Please point out instances of where you believe I've contradicted myself. I'm eager to learn what you have to teach me.

Justin-case · Apr 21, 2017

Rob Roy said:
No. I am defending the right of a person to chose how the fruit of their labor is applied, or not.

You are defending the idea that person(s) A has a right to dictate to person(B) and rationalizing the use of offensive force to ensure it.

No person has a right to run another persons life. Your idea shits on that principle.

Have you ever helped someone that you did not know, and could never pay you back, just out of the goodness of your heart.

Justin-case · Apr 21, 2017

Rob Roy said:
Actually I'm sitting down.

Please point out instances of where you believe I've contradicted myself. I'm eager to learn what you have to teach me.

Have you ever admitted to being wrong?

Rob Roy · Apr 21, 2017

Justin-case said:
Have you ever helped someone that you did not know, and could never pay you back, just out of the goodness of your heart.

Yes, frequently.

Have you ever helped someone by forcing your choices on them ?

Rob Roy · Apr 21, 2017

Justin-case said:
Have you ever admitted to being wrong?

It hasn't come up, yet.

Justin-case · Apr 21, 2017

Rob Roy said:
Yes, frequently.

Have you ever helped someone by forcing your choices on them ?

Examples please.....

Rob Roy · Apr 21, 2017

Justin-case said:
Examples please.....

Thank you for asking politely, but I'd rather not embarrass you by rubbing my largesse in your face. Unless you like a furry largesse rubbed in your face?

Justin-case · Apr 21, 2017

Rob Roy said:
Thank you for asking politely, but I'd rather not embarrass you by rubbing my largesse in your face. Unless you like a furry largesse rubbed in your face?

That's alright, ID hate to force upon you. But, like I said you're are a walking contradiction.

Rob Roy · Apr 21, 2017

Justin-case said:
That's alright, like I said you're are a walking contradiction.

You're confused and seem to have a misunderstanding of the actual meanings of words. That is a common affliction though.

You consider "charity" to be forcing your idea on how another person should use their own property and their own body, which coincidentally is the same actions which occur when theft and slavery happen.

Could you give an example of my contradictory behavior or point of view ?

Also, I'm a little disappointed you didn't respond to my clever double entendre in the previous post. I was funny, dammit!

SneekyNinja · Apr 21, 2017

Slapery it is again...

Get a new tune Rob; you've been debunked, you're fake news.

UncleBuck · Apr 21, 2017

Rob Roy said:
You're confused and seem to have a misunderstanding of the actual meanings of words.

were you aware that it is in no way polite or reasonable to hang a sign that says "no blacks allowed", rob?

after you get the shit beat out of you for trying to lure an 11 year old into your rape van, we will be the ones paying all your medical bills for you since you think buying health insurance is slapery.

you're welcome in advance.

Antidisestablishmentarian · Apr 21, 2017

Rob Roy said:
Yes, frequently.

Have you ever helped someone by forcing your choices on them ?

Every once in a while a situation arises where it does, yes. And I'm not talking about the parent/child relationship.

Example: say someone has a crazy sister that is a danger to themselves and others. Having them committed will help a lot of people. Including the sister, who gets put on meds and becomes not a threat to herself or others. It's not always successful, but it is an example that we can both agree has happened.

If some of those mass shooters were committed, it would have helped plenty of people.

Unclebaldrick · Apr 21, 2017

Justin-case said:
You're a walking, talking contradiction.

Jebus, you read his posts?

chemphlegm · Apr 21, 2017

Antidisestablishmentarian said:
: say someone has a crazy sister that is a danger to themselves and others. Having them committed will help a lot of people. Including the sister, who gets put on meds and becomes not a threat to herself or others. It's not always successful, but it is an example that we can both agree has happened.

.

sorry about your sister

SneekyNinja · Apr 21, 2017

UncleBuck said:
were you aware that it is in no way polite or reasonable to hang a sign that says "no blacks allowed", rob?

after you get the shit beat out of you for trying to lure an 11 year old into your rape van, we will be the ones paying all your medical bills for you since you think buying health insurance is slapery.

you're welcome in advance, you dumb old bitch.

Give him some credit...

He starts at 12.

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