actually,And that would be Redivider that said that......
i was paraphrasing a Congressional Budget Office Report that states that the Health Care bill would reduce the deficit by 138 Billion USD within 10 years of it passing.
health care disaster, take two
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i was paraphrasing a Congressional Budget Office Report that states that the Health Care bill would reduce the deficit by 138 Billion USD within 10 years of it passing.
Banditt
Well-Known Member
haha I lol'd at that one too.
tip top toker
Well-Known Member
but the people of America don't want results in the long ruyn, they want ther solution and the results this term or it's a shit idea 
keep drinking the kool aid people.
here's how it works:
The legislation, affecting virtually every American and more than a year in the making, would extend coverage to an estimated 32 million uninsured, bar insurers from denying coverage on the basis of existing medical conditions and cut federal deficits by an estimated $138 billion over a decade.
Congressional analysts estimate the cost of the two bills combined would be $940 billion over a decade.
For the first time, most Americans would be required to purchase insurance, and they would face penalties if they refused. Billions of dollars would be set aside for subsidies to help families at incomes of up to $88,000 a year afford the cost. The legislation also provides for an expansion of Medicaid that would give government-paid health care to millions of the poor.
credit to: Associated Press writers Erica Werner, David Espo and Chuck Babington contributed to this report.
because of people like you, who believe the lies, the mis-information, and the bullshit, is that this has been dragged on for so long.
Banditt
Well-Known Member
Please explain the finer points to me instead of citing an article that really says nothing. I'd like to hear how providing MORE people with government funded insurance will help save us money....keep drinking the kool aid people.
here's how it works:
The legislation, affecting virtually every American and more than a year in the making, would extend coverage to an estimated 32 million uninsured, bar insurers from denying coverage on the basis of existing medical conditions and cut federal deficits by an estimated $138 billion over a decade.
Congressional analysts estimate the cost of the two bills combined would be $940 billion over a decade.
For the first time, most Americans would be required to purchase insurance, and they would face penalties if they refused. Billions of dollars would be set aside for subsidies to help families at incomes of up to $88,000 a year afford the cost. The legislation also provides for an expansion of Medicaid that would give government-paid health care to millions of the poor.
credit to: Associated Press writers Erica Werner, David Espo and Chuck Babington contributed to this report.
because of people like you, who believe the lies, the mis-information, and the bullshit, is that this has been dragged on for so long.
i could sit here, and try and summarize ALL of the health care bill, wasting all my afternoon repeating what I already know, while depriving you of this once in a lifetime opportunity to embrace the calling of the academic process to enlighten your knowledge of this particular subject...
or i could tell you HELL NO, do your own research.
the CBO reported this the other day.
google congressional budget office, and work from there.....
Mindmelted
Well-Known Member
Now i can not go see iron maiden.
I have to save that money for my fine for not being able to afford our governments new scam of a health plan..
I have to save that money for my fine for not being able to afford our governments new scam of a health plan..
K
Keenly
Guest
you still have yet to explain how starting a program thats going to cost us 900 billion, is going to make our national deficit go down
think about this for a second...
spending more money is going to make us owe less money
its really not that hard to understand that Spending money does not = saving money
the lies they will tell you to get this thing passed is just scary
here is your basic math failure
federal deficits by an estimated $138 billion over a decade.
Congressional analysts estimate the cost of the two bills combined would be $940 billion
OH MY GOD it actually INCREASES the deficit by 700 billion, rounding down
jesus christ, how you thought this would save us money is out of this world
think about this for a second...
spending more money is going to make us owe less money
its really not that hard to understand that Spending money does not = saving money
the lies they will tell you to get this thing passed is just scary
here is your basic math failure
federal deficits by an estimated $138 billion over a decade.
Congressional analysts estimate the cost of the two bills combined would be $940 billion
OH MY GOD it actually INCREASES the deficit by 700 billion, rounding down
jesus christ, how you thought this would save us money is out of this world
I
Illegal Smile
Guest
We've seen the depths of deception the dems are willing to use on process. How can we doubt the deception folded into the content of the bill? especially with regard to cost? Wanna buy a nice bridge in Brooklyn?
Banditt
Well-Known Member
i could sit here, and try and summarize ALL of the health care bill, wasting all my afternoon repeating what I already know, while depriving you of this once in a lifetime opportunity to embrace the calling of the academic process to enlighten your knowledge of this particular subject...
or i could tell you HELL NO, do your own research.
the CBO reported this the other day.
google congressional budget office, and work from there.....
LOL....pathetic. You went to all the trouble to post that little blurb you googled....But when I ask for some concrete evidence you can't provide anything. Never come to a battle of wits unarmed.
irishronn
Well-Known Member
When they don't want you to hear the truth they try to scare you with misinformation as all military regimes have been doing for years. The republican agenda is to stop all legislation and appointees from taking office to stymie the Obama administration. its all a political gamble using the American people as their chips in a poker game.
this is the most mis-informed statement i have ever read.
you do not know what they mean when they say it will cost 940 billion. nor do you know what deficit or surplus spending is.
look it up.....
Mindmelted
Well-Known Member
It is amazing that people who think we cannot afford to pay for doctors, hospitals, and medication somehow think that we can afford to pay for doctors, hospitals, medication and a government bureaucracy to administer it. — Thomas Sowell
dukeofbaja
New Member
The real 'beaurocracy' lies in what we are doing now. Administrative costs are around 22% or more. Do you have any idea what other countries spend on administrative costs? Go look it up and see for yourself. Some spend as little as 6%.
Now comes the question of why our administrative costs are so much higher...do you think it has anything to do with the for profit manner in which our system is currently working? If you answered yes, you get a happy smiley.
Now comes the question of why our administrative costs are so much higher...do you think it has anything to do with the for profit manner in which our system is currently working? If you answered yes, you get a happy smiley.
ViRedd
New Member
Can you point out from where it is that the federal government derives the constitutional authority for this?
Thanks ...
I
Illegal Smile
Guest
So you are saying private companies increase their profits by paying for unneeded administration? Now comes the question of why you seem to think you get it.
K
Keenly
Guest
this is the most mis-informed statement i have ever read.
you do not know what they mean when they say it will cost 940 billion. nor do you know what deficit or surplus spending is.
look it up.....
no yeah we will just create more money out of thin air like we always do, that will solve our problems
you act like your so intelligent yet you seek your own enslavement and extortion
dukeofbaja
New Member
When you have a profit motive, you need to review requests for procedures and claims in order to deny the expensive ones, or search for a pre existing condition to deny the claim/procedure, or request more information to help deny a claim. When they find a reason to deny a claim or procedure, it's time to do more paperwork.
Why don't you look into how other countries like Taiwan or Switzerland do this type of thing? Maybe then you might 'get it'.
jeff f
New Member
roughly 60 percent of your pay goes to the govt. when counting all taxes, fees, fuel etc. somewhere in the neighborhood of 30-35 percent straight off the top.
and your happy becuase you over paid them 500 bucks and they gave it back? interesting. i hope you dont do your own investing.
actually i may have been married to you. my ex wife used to go by a $300 pair of jeans for 1/3 off. then come home and tell me she saved me a hundred bucks. ......god i miss her
jeff f
New Member
when you can explain how creating a mega company (govt) and putting 30 million more people into a system is gonna save money AND some magic way its gonna IMPROVE the delivery of service, i will believe this bill is the right choice.
that means i will also have to belive in the tooth fairy, easter bunny, unicorns, and the yeti, because thats fucking crazy.
