Health Canada condemns marijuana growers’ payments to doctors

gb123

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Government-licensed medical marijuana producers should avoid making “inappropriate” payments to individuals or groups, Health Canada has warned just days after allegations surfaced that some doctors are getting kickbacks from the companies.

As producers battle amongst themselves over who holds the moral high ground in the fledgling cannabis industry, the government is insisting that all the companies act with integrity.

“Health Canada expects licensed producers … to be honest and ethical in how they conduct their business and act professionally and in good faith,” the department declares in a bulletin issued earlier this week.

“They should also take care to avoid any situation that could compromise the health and safety of patients; for example (by) giving or offering inappropriate direct or indirect payments or inducements to any individual organization.”

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Physicians write what are in effect prescriptions for medical marijuana, which people then use to obtain pot from one of several approved growers. Patients and certain producers say some doctors, clinics and related groups push patients toward specific companies.

Those physicians and clinics also request and sometimes receive payment from the firms of up to $350 per prescription, according to evidence that includes emails and invoices disclosed by Tilray, one of the producers.

The B.C. company has called the payments “kickbacks” as it conducts a media offensive to try to set itself apart from competitors. Another firm that admits to making payments to clinics, however, says the money helps support the few health-care facilities willing to prescribe medical marijuana.

Medical regulators say physicians should not be receiving payments of any kind from marijuana companies.

After the kickback allegations were reported by the National Post, Health Canada said it was concerned with the reports. Now it says the producers it regulates must act ethically, as well as follow the safety and security rules set out in leglislation.

Tilray recently pulled out of the Canadian Medical Cannabis Industry Association, saying the trade group had refused to adopt a code of ethics that would bar kickbacks or other payments to health-care providers.

But Neil Belot, a spokesman for the association, said Friday it already opposes such payments and would take action against any member that violated the policy.

“As of right now, all we have is one licensed producer whose membership with CMCIA has not been in good standing for several months, spouting off with broad-sweeping allegations,” he said. It is “an apparent attempt to promote their own company at the expense of their colleagues, fellow licensed producers, physicians, and patients.”

National Post
 

Gmack420

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So it's ok for the doctors to charge patients for their mmpr documents but it's not ok for lp's to pay a fee for that patient to be sent in their direction?
 

bigmanc

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Conflict of interest. They specifically get rewarded for the sole purpose of signing up the patient. I see your point though as the compassion clubs do the same thing.
 

TheDizzyBizzy

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Pay clinics are the only ones signing documents, regular doctors want nothing to do with it. Health Canada would sabotage their whole system if they started cracking down.
 

gb123

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actually. CHEMO is the shit they make the most with.
They buy chemo meds at low prices, which they then sell to patients at 1000% mark up... BECAUSE THEY ARE ALLOWED TO!!

Doctors in Canada can take offers of condos and resorts..but they are not allowed to take KICK BACKS!!!!!!!
 

medcann

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So it's ok for the doctors to charge patients for their mmpr documents but it's not ok for lp's to pay a fee for that patient to be sent in their direction?
In the past, some Doctors or clinics were charging 300-400 to the patient, and getting 200-400 from the LP..possible to get $800 for a sign up!....Been going on for ages....just now discovering it HC?...Bullshit!

Recent changes in Ontario...The Ontario College of Physicians and Surgeons do not allow Doctors to charge for writing up a marijuana medical document.
 

Red1966

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So it's ok for the doctors to charge patients for their mmpr documents but it's not ok for lp's to pay a fee for that patient to be sent in their direction?
No, it's not. The doctor has both an ethical and legal obligation to the patient. Accepting kickbacks from a third party compromises that obligation
 

TheDizzyBizzy

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No, it's not. The doctor has both an ethical and legal obligation to the patient. Accepting kickbacks from a third party compromises that obligation
The doctor has no legal obligation to prescribe weed. This is nothing more than Tilray trying to prevent their competitors from doing the same thing Tilray did a year ago to get patients. Pay clinics might be bullshit, but they are about the only way a Canadian can access marijuana these days, and Tilray wants to put a stop to that because they don't want their competitors getting patients.

In summation, Fuck Tilray.

Drs are allowed to accept kickbacks from pfizer or fentanyl etc because hc probably gets the same kickbacks.
Just sounds like a squeeky wheel asking to be greased.
Drs get indirect 'kickbacks' all the time, and there is little way to stop it from happening.What a pharma company does is puts on a 'seminar' in Hawaii or Belize or somewhere nice, pays for everything, and invites doctors. There is no money changing hands, so it's not a 'kickback'.

What the LP's have been doing is straight up handing out money to clinics. The thing is, Tilray did it to gather their 4000 patients, too. But now that they have those patients, they don't want the new LP's who don't have any to be able to do the same thing.

Fuck Tilray.
 

doingdishes

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“Health Canada expects licensed producers … to be honest and ethical in how they conduct their business and act professionally and in good faith,”
that made me laugh twice...why should someone else be that way when they themselves are not and according to the HC Leader Rona Ambrose-it's not an approved medication so it's an illegal substance they are dealing with so there's double talk right there too
 
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