okay day 4 in ziplock.....not including the 24 hr soak in cup of water. 2 seeds are in wet papertowel within the fold with extra air in SEALED bag. the bag is on top of one paper plate with another paper plate as a cover. seeds look as though they REALLY wanna crack open now...but still nothing. so i guess i'm in for the long haul. i have NEVER had seeds take this long it's ridiculous. oh and i got the seeds from my buddies plant. he ordered the seeds online not sure where but the smoke was amazing so i didn't forsee any germinating issues.