Harvest ready? Day 49 of flower

Minirex

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I don't know what your PPM is out of the tap but I would think you'd want that run off be pretty close to that to know that you've rinsed out most of what's in there. I've been growing for just about 30 years and I've never watered to the point where water runs out of the bottom of my pots. I've also never had salt lock up. I think the best way to flush a plant it's the start feeding that water and let it eat the nutrients out of the soil. This will take 10 to 14 days and that's as long as the pot is getting dry every 24 to 48 hours. The problem with pouring water into a pot until it starts pouring out of the bottom is that you often times will turn the soil into mush which plants do not like. And if you make the soil so loose that the water just pours right through it then it dries up too quickly. But I found over the years that mixing up a solution that allows me to feed from day one till the flush without ever requiring water until the flush works pretty well. Another words I can make my food a lot stronger feed for 10 days then flush for 3 then feed for 10 but that seems silly I know I'm pushing my nutrients as far as they can go because if I go any further the plants will show signs of burning and that's good enough for me. I do Hydroponics no-till and use Liquid Organics like advanced nutrients in a pro mix base.
 

Km395160

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Lookin good. You are early in the harvest window, i'd go another week to 10 days.
Will do, I was worried when they started showing early if that was signs of an issue. I originally planned on waiting till at least day 56but will go 7-10 days based on what you guys say... I will update in a couple days with the digital microscope to show more pics... Like I said this is my first time so worried about messing it up in the final stage. I am reading up now on how to harvest and what's the best way to dry/cure... I bought amber colored 32 ouch Mason jars and plan on cutting down the plant and hanging it upside down.... Any ideas would.be awesome
 

Minirex

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I'll tell you what I always tell people that are new is when you think it's ready go 10 to 14 more days and start flushing and it'll be perfect
 

TheDifferenceX

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plan on cutting down the plant and hanging it upside down.... Any ideas would.be awesome
That's the first step.

Cure means nothing if you don't dry the plant properly. This is what has worked for me my last 3 harvests.

Hang dry entire plant for 5-7 days
Dry trim (to your liking) and remove buds from plants
Put buds into brown paper bags (no more than 3-4 inches of bud in each paper bag)
Dry buds in paper bags for 5-7 days (opening twice per day and giving the bag a good shake)

This process takes 10-14 days total.

After this, take your buds and put them into containers/jars/bags (i use glass jars). Monitor the RH of the jars and don't let it get above 70%. If dried correctly, this process shouldn't be a problem. If the RH% gets above 70%, remove all the buds from the jars and leave out for a few hours. Open the jars 1-2 times per day to "burp" them. This process takes 1-3 weeks, depending on your preference. Your looking for an RH% anywhere between 55-65%. 55% and it cannot "cure" any longer. The buds will be a bit dry at this point. 65% and the buds will have a more fresh, sticky feeling. Depending on your preference, you can decide what you want.

This process takes 14-21 days total.

I feel like the weed burns much better around 50-55% RH.
 

Km395160

Member
That's the first step.

Cure means nothing if you don't dry the plant properly. This is what has worked for me my last 3 harvests.

Hang dry entire plant for 5-7 days
Dry trim (to your liking) and remove buds from plants
Put buds into brown paper bags (no more than 3-4 inches of bud in each paper bag)
Dry buds in paper bags for 5-7 days (opening twice per day and giving the bag a good shake)

This process takes 10-14 days total.

After this, take your buds and put them into containers/jars/bags (i use glass jars). Monitor the RH of the jars and don't let it get above 70%. If dried correctly, this process shouldn't be a problem. If the RH% gets above 70%, remove all the buds from the jars and leave out for a few hours. Open the jars 1-2 times per day to "burp" them. This process takes 1-3 weeks, depending on your preference. Your looking for an RH% anywhere between 55-65%. 55% and it cannot "cure" any longer. The buds will be a bit dry at this point. 65% and the buds will have a more fresh, sticky feeling. Depending on your preference, you can decide what you want.

This process takes 14-21 days total.

I feel like the weed burns much better around 50-55% RH.
Ok I need to get something to measure the humidity in the jars to get right. Anyone have anything that wokrs for them?

I like everything you wrote but don't see the brown paper bag part lot. Is that to make sure they aren't too wet before jarring them? I read if you put them in wet they can product ammonia and rot. I would be so pissed to get that far and have it ruined in the end so I want to do it right. Appreciate the knowledge drop!
 

Minirex

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I didn't read through everything but I could tell that the member who helped you with the curing knows what he's talking about. I've been at this for a couple decades and I will tell you this you want to hang the plants upside down and let them dry that way it should take a couple of weeks at least you want the humidity around 50% you want the temperature around 60 if you can get it there and you wanted to be dark it can be warmer and it can be more humid it will just change the way it dries more humidity will make it dry slower more heat will actually make it dry quicker which is not a good thing. And if the humidity is too high it might not dry at all. My plants usually take about 30 days till they snap and all the buds are ready that gives him a little cure time as well. But there's two stages there's drying and curing you want to do your drying before you get to the jars for the most part. Once you put them in the jars they're there for the curing process which might be say the second 30 days. And you burp the jars every 4-5 days just to make sure if there's any moisture in there you get it out get some fresh air in but I can guarantee you if you put wet but in those jars no end up with mold something that you don't like . like a moldy smell
 

Minirex

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Some people will use Brown Bags cut all the bud off the stalks throw it in brown paper bags and just let it dry in those bags . that is a good way to do it when you're new at curing. the bags can breathe and it tends to overall keep them curing at a slow steady rate. The moisture from the buds themselves will keep a certain humidity level in those bags which will slow down the drying process if you don't have an ideal situation then that is a good way to do it even in a hot bright room you can still keep them dark humid and drying at a slow pace in brown bags for the most part.
 

Km395160

Member
I didn't read through everything but I could tell that the member who helped you with the curing knows what he's talking about. I've been at this for a couple decades and I will tell you this you want to hang the plants upside down and let them dry that way it should take a couple of weeks at least you want the humidity around 50% you want the temperature around 60 if you can get it there and you wanted to be dark it can be warmer and it can be more humid it will just change the way it dries more humidity will make it dry slower more heat will actually make it dry quicker which is not a good thing. And if the humidity is too high it might not dry at all. My plants usually take about 30 days till they snap and all the buds are ready that gives him a little cure time as well. But there's two stages there's drying and curing you want to do your drying before you get to the jars for the most part. Once you put them in the jars they're there for the curing process which might be say the second 30 days. And you burp the jars every 4-5 days just to make sure if there's any moisture in there you get it out get some fresh air in but I can guarantee you if you put wet but in those jars no end up with mold something that you don't like . like a moldy smell
Ok didn't know it would take that long to dry hanging upside down. My tent will be at a solid 65-68 degrees without the light and nothing running but the carbon filter exhaust I have. Humidity is at 50-60ish with a small dehumidifier in there. I read no fans in the tent as it will dry it out to fast right? Can the dehumidifier be in there? It does generate some heat but not much.

Do you trim anything before you harvest? Or after upside down,? I know a million questions. When you put them into jars should you leave a lot of the stem on or just cut the nugs.
 

Jackrabbitslim614

New Member
I do believe that flushing works I don't believe you have to buy any special products water works fine. If you're talking about no-till gardening total Organics I've heard that a flush is unnecessary and I kind of believe that because I don't think you can ever really flush out everything in time. But if you're using bottles of nutrients which I like to refer to as chemical Organics not true Organics I can assure you that flushing out will leave you with a much better taste and finish sometimes if you don't flush the bud will even crack and pop when you smoke it depending on how bad the residues are. There's no question you could Harvest that plant if you wanted to. But it is a little young you want to wait till they're not just milky but still some of them have a little color. A little Amber. The flavor profile will get better if you let it age up a little usually and also the high will change. If you harvest a plant early and smoke it and then let it go for another say 10 to 14 days and then smoke that you'll not only notice a difference in the flavor being more refined but the high as well. Considering that everybody's taste so different I couldn't tell you which one you like better but I could take a guess that it would be the ladder letting it go further gardening
ive done both. im firm with flushing. not flushing the buds look the same but the smoke is different. it burns black and not white like cigg ashes. it tastes harsher. and it does pop and spark. if you ever light your lighter next your bowl and theres a magical spark in the bud. thats the phosphorous. the hayish harsh taste is the nitrogen. a good ppm would be between what 150ppm and 400ppm. your runoff at start should be in the 1000s. i hang upside down for 8 to 12 days. depending on climate that week. start first 2 days at 60% and drop it 5% every 2 days until its ready. keep it dark and cool. some air flowing but not directly on the buds. slower dry is the best. dont waste months of growing to a quick dry. i only trim off the giant fan leafs before hanging. leave the sugar leafs and smaller fan leafs on to protect the nugs. theyll wrap around the buds like blankets. when they are dry. trimming is a synch. if you ever see say mite or mold damage dont dry that way. cut the mold/mite damage out if its manageable then hang it. people say i wouldnt ever smoke that... theyd be surprised what they smoked before legalization and testing was done. as long as the yeast isnt over a certain ppm to 5grams of nug it wont hurt you. i think its like 10,000ppm for a fail in my state.
 
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Minirex

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Some people trim off the sun leaves before they dry I think it speeds up drying I like the old-fashioned way where you just hang the whole plan up upside down I think that's the most natural way to do it you do have to be careful with dehumidifiers because if they're exhausting into the 10th the extra heat and humidity that exhaust brings May kind of cancel out what it's doing I would probably just attempt to dry it without the dehumidifier in the tent maybe outside of the tent and see how that works out before you have to go as far as to put it in the tent and yes once it's done drying just cut the dogs off you're not going to want a lot of extra stock basically just prepare it like you would want it if you were buying it and jar it you can dry bud in 10 days but I can assure you that if you take your time trying it do it nice and slow and steady the results are going to come out a lot better there's a lot of people that grow great stuff but don't know how to cure and the end up ruining all their hard work. You can always change up the situation if you need to but start with the most basic drying situation and see where it takes you
 

Km395160

Member
ive done both. im firm with flushing. not flushing the buds look the same but the smoke is different. it burns black and not white like cigg ashes. it tastes harsher. and it does pop and spark. if you ever light your lighter next your bowl and theres a magical spark in the bud. thats the phosphorous. the hayish harsh taste is the nitrogen. a good ppm would be between what 150ppm and 400ppm. your runoff at start should be in the 1000s. i hang upside down for 8 to 12 days. depending on climate that week. start first 2 days at 60% and drop it 5% every 2 days until its ready. keep it dark and cool. some air flowing but not directly on the buds. slower dry is the best. dont waste months of growing to a quick dry. i only trim off the giant fan leafs before hanging. leave the sugar leafs and smaller fan leafs on to protect the nugs. theyll wrap around the buds like blankets. when they are dry. trimming is a synch. if you ever see say mite or mold damage dont dry that way. cut the mold/mite damage out if its manageable then hang it. people say i wouldnt ever smoke that... theyd be surprised what they smoked before legalization and testing was done. as long as the yeast isnt over a certain ppm to 5grams of nug it wont hurt you. i think its like 10,000ppm for a fail in my state.
My run off like 2 weeks ago was like 2100 then went to 1500 the next week, then it was 1000 when I sledgehammered it yesterday with about a 4 gallon flush.. I only put bembe (fox farm)in it the last 2 waters as the ppm seemed high
 
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