50% of peanuts are grown in 1state that state is all clay soil.
What exactly are you using gypsum for? Are you using clay as a medium?
Gypsum - stop putting chemicals in your soil!!
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What exactly are you using gypsum for? Are you using clay as a medium?
injinji
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For the calcium and sulfur. A few years back I noticed one patch always had nicer plants than all the others. Sulfur water was the only difference. I remembered Gypsum had lots of sulfur, so I looked around online and saw it was good for weed.
I use 10 cups of gypsum in a 40 gallon soil mix. Then I might top dress with a small handful per plant when the soil mix starts to wane. I grow in the ground, about half and half soil mix and existing dirt {5 gallons of mix in a 10 gallon hole}. There is clay around, but some sand too. I try to find the boundaries, and put my patches there.
My basic soil mix is 1/2 manure composts, 1/4 peat moss, 1/4 good potting soil, plus all the amendments.
mr. childs
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i remember epsoma had a gypsum/sulfur mix for blueberries & a straight gypsum bag also that i added to oceans forest. @RM3 always mentioned using gypsum & sulfur and that how key they were, looks as if he was right.
injinji
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I think he does use clay, ie cat litter, as a grow medium.
xtsho
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This is what I use for my blueberries to lower the pH of the soil. It's so slow release that I've thought about tossing some into the soil mix I've started making. Many amendments raise the pH. This lowers it. What's everyone's take on adding this to a soil mix? Small amounts of course. Perhaps half a cup to 3 cubic feet.
mr. childs
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i have had a bag of the pellets in my cart for the past 3 years that i have yet to order. ive been mainly using magnesium sulfate & potassium sulfate for my sulfur needs. if i do another coco run, i might add gypsum & perlite, as the cooc run before was just straight canna by itself.
I find it hard to believe you went deficient in soil but ok.
"Sulphur is essential for the production of hormones and vitamins, it’s part of the amino acids and is directly involved in the flavour"
Over abundance of Sulphur don't give you bigger and badder plants.
You are the 1st I met that has ever had a Sulphur deficiency. I know people that locked it up with calcium, but never deficient.
Sulphur is a TRACE ELEMENT every bottle every batch of compost every bag of the worst castings has enough for proper growth.
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dubekoms
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Chill you fucken dick he never said he was deficient in it, he said he noticed the plants did better when he added it.
He also said he ADDS his soil mix to half native dirt. He grows in the ground outdoors.
The gypsum sulfur bag from epsoma I use on my pink lemonade blueberries to lower the ph. Careful with that with unless you have high ph
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Did better how?
He said half native when his peanut comparison failed when i told him they grow in clay where gypsum is needed but later gave his real soil mix which was half compost quarter potting soil quarter peat.
Either way I deleted my rude comment. Even though it's bullshit. Because we are all friends here however you have started name calling. Your a dick
injinji
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Didn't say I had a sulfur deficiency. I said when the soil mix started to wane I added a little. Along with coffee ground compost, chicken manure compost, HollyTone 3-4-3, and assorted other things according to what I have at the time. Don't want to fight about it. Someone was asking about it and I told how I used it. Not saying it is right, just what I do.
injinji
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The water source for one of my patches is sulfur water. That patch seemed to have fatter, tastier buds. But it could have been the fact it was closer to the water source, so it just had more water than the other patches.
BTW, I don't buy worm casting or bag compost. Or most other high dollar weed stuff. It was the fact that I live in a peanut producing area that I knew about Gypsum. If I lived out in the midwest where it was corn from here to there, the odds are I would have never heard of it.
xtsho
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420bob
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I need a little bit of help I have one plant that I have some bud rot on I've already taken the whole Bud off I needI need to know if I should pull the plant or Let It Go on the plant is roughly 6 weeks in the flowering stage I need to know what I should do with this I will upload a picture so you can see
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mr. childs
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please dont mention corn & the midwest. in the 80's when my mother left the east coast for the university out there, her first house was across the street from a damn corn field. as a kid going from the train & sidewalks to dirt roads & tractors, it was a damn culture shock that i havent recovered from to the day... but i did learn how to grow in soy & corn fields...
Gilligans Island
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I moved 13 times between kindergarten and 6th grade. Country rocks over city life.
RM3
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Love gettin called into a thread, means folks are payin attention 
That said I'm not on here as much as I used to be since I've retired to da farm
Tis true that a sulfur rich medium is good for our plants but elemental sulfur is not the way to go as it is not readily available to the plant and sulfates are !!!
gypsum is not the best option in most cases as it is Calcium Sulfate and too much Cal can cause nute burns and lockouts. Plus let's not forget there is a necessary ratio between Cal & Mag and in most cases there is enough Cal in the water for the plants needs. That is unless you are usin RO or distilled water, then ya need to add it
Most all trace elements are available as sulfates, I use
Magnesium Sulfate
Potassium Sulfate
Copper Sulfate
Zinc Sulfate
Iron Sulfate
Manganese Sulfate
as well as a few others
The important thing to remember is that the ratio's of the elements with respect to N is very critical !!!
Folks need to know how these elements affect things as well. While N is a must for plants it also inhibits THC production while Manganese feeds THC production and iron feeds CBD production
These things are also affected by the spectrum of light, if growing outdoors, no problem as the sun is full spectrum. But if your under HPS lights you will not see much difference as HPS has very little blue and the blue spectrum enhances what sulfates offer the plant
I explain this in great detail in my books
That said I'm not on here as much as I used to be since I've retired to da farm
Tis true that a sulfur rich medium is good for our plants but elemental sulfur is not the way to go as it is not readily available to the plant and sulfates are !!!
gypsum is not the best option in most cases as it is Calcium Sulfate and too much Cal can cause nute burns and lockouts. Plus let's not forget there is a necessary ratio between Cal & Mag and in most cases there is enough Cal in the water for the plants needs. That is unless you are usin RO or distilled water, then ya need to add it
Most all trace elements are available as sulfates, I use
Magnesium Sulfate
Potassium Sulfate
Copper Sulfate
Zinc Sulfate
Iron Sulfate
Manganese Sulfate
as well as a few others
The important thing to remember is that the ratio's of the elements with respect to N is very critical !!!
Folks need to know how these elements affect things as well. While N is a must for plants it also inhibits THC production while Manganese feeds THC production and iron feeds CBD production
These things are also affected by the spectrum of light, if growing outdoors, no problem as the sun is full spectrum. But if your under HPS lights you will not see much difference as HPS has very little blue and the blue spectrum enhances what sulfates offer the plant
I explain this in great detail in my books
mr. childs
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even though i dont drown anymore, i thank you greatly for mentioning the importance of sulfur @RM3Love gettin called into a thread, means folks are payin attention
That said I'm not on here as much as I used to be since I've retired to da farm
Tis true that a sulfur rich medium is good for our plants but elemental sulfur is not the way to go as it is not readily available to the plant and sulfates are !!!
gypsum is not the best option in most cases as it is Calcium Sulfate and too much Cal can cause nute burns and lockouts. Plus let's not forget there is a necessary ratio between Cal & Mag and in most cases there is enough Cal in the water for the plants needs. That is unless you are usin RO or distilled water, then ya need to add it
Most all trace elements are available as sulfates, I use
Magnesium Sulfate
Potassium Sulfate
Copper Sulfate
Zinc Sulfate
Iron Sulfate
Manganese Sulfate
as well as a few others
The important thing to remember is that the ratio's of the elements with respect to N is very critical !!!
Folks need to know how these elements affect things as well. While N is a must for plants it also inhibits THC production while Manganese feeds THC production and iron feeds CBD production
These things are also affected by the spectrum of light, if growing outdoors, no problem as the sun is full spectrum. But if your under HPS lights you will not see much difference as HPS has very little blue and the blue spectrum enhances what sulfates offer the plant
I explain this in great detail in my books