Guns and weed now that we’re rec legal

HGK420

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My own personal experience with this one and direct from the source inputs are as follows.

I’ve had police in my grow 6 times now. Various reasons. 3 early on. And 3 over last handful of years. Every time they asked “do I smell a grow? Can I check it out?” And it’s always gone smooth. I have that magic little
3 letter card that says I can hide my defense item if you know what I mean. It’s always gone smooth.

Friend of mine got caught with 15oz and a German plastic quiet pill dispenser made by Gaston. 4 magazines. And that same magic card that says he can have it. He’s a maxed caregiver and a patient himself. Legal to have 15. Was a normal traffic stop. Cop took the meds and the glock and mags and said he would be in touch. Tried telling him he was illegal. Next morning cop calls him and says “come get your shit” and when he got there the officer said “you patients really worded that law right so you don’t lose any rights.” And gave it all back.

Does that mean if Feds come in they aren’t gonna try and stack every possible charge they can including possession of a firearm while in commission of a felony? No they will stack and stack and stack. It’s what they do. Although the little faggy named drug task forces have connections to the dea and the feds it’s rare it’s the feds coming for ya. They got bigger fish to fry. Your some kind of hot shot king pin filling your mattress up they might come knocking. Your some small time caregiver keepin food on the table and not shaking up the system they won’t even write your name down.

Is it more of a risk to run a cpl and a med card together? Personally I’ve always had wayyyyyy better luck having a cpl. officers know you can pass an fbi background check if you have that card. As one officer put it to me “that means your a card carrying member of the good guys club”. Does that mean your invincible? No. I still rarely bring anything with me if I’m going to a patients. No reason to push your luck.

The case most point too is the father son case that had guns involved and they got a buncha time. They also had 2 caregivers stacked up and 144 plants. That’ll getcha that knock from the feds. It’s very grey area. Hard to actually give any advice cause it’s really not a concrete set of laws.

On a good note. Saw a Michigan state police court officer buying a one hitter not long ago at grow shop wearing close with the crest on it and his vehicle was all marked up. That gives me hope lol.
 

Rrog

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Hello. Resurrecting this thread

I don’t grow at the moment and want a concealed carry permit. I don’t have a medical card either

I’m thinking the path of least resistance is to get the concealed carry permit first. Then later get the medical card.

The only reason I would want a medical card is in case of a traffic accident
 

thenasty1

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Thoughts?
the cpl form doesnt even ask about weed anymore. i think that might be their way of throwing us a bone without directly coming out and saying "its ok for you guys to carry now". if youre worried, get the cpl first
med card info is protected by hipaa laws. no one, not even the law, can access it without your authorization. likewise, medical professionals cant access your legal info
 

TheMan13

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http://instagr.am/p/CNk9ClmHmDk/
There are now 18 States that have legalized marijuana, but that legalization may also be the loophole anti-gun advocates have been looking for. Even though you can legally possess and smoke marijuana in the State of New York, the Federal Government still considers it a narcotic drug, and that may affect your ability to own a firearm.

"In New York State it is legal to consume marijuana, but technically the federal government is now going to prohibit you from possessing a firearm because you’re using a drug that’s on their list of prohibited substances."

Oneida County Sheriff Rob Maciol has plenty of questions surrounding the legalization of marijuana in New York, but the Federal Government has a pretty clear policy on firearm possession.

"Federal law clearly states that marijuana is still illegal. You can not possess any of the drugs on the federal government’s schedule of prohibited drugs, or use those drugs and then legally possess a firearm."

You’re probably not going to see any Federal Agents knocking down your door to confiscate your guns just yet, but if you decide to legally purchase marijuana, there’s a chance you could be denied a pistol permit, or allowed to buy a gun.

"If you’re at a dispensary purchasing marijuana, and you’re going to show I.D., and your information is recorded, you know does that information make its way back to the Federal Government in some form or fashion somehow? I don’t know the answer to that, but if it does I’m sure there’s going to be consequences associated with that because the person can’t possess a firearm."

The Federal Government is already working on a number of new gun laws. We’ll keep you posted on any new regulations or enforcement objectives.
 

buckaroo bonzai

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Thoughts?
the cpl form doesnt even ask about weed anymore. i think that might be their way of throwing us a bone without directly coming out and saying "its ok for you guys to carry now"
http://instagr.am/p/CNk9ClmHmDk/ "If you’re at a dispensary purchasing marijuana, and you’re going to show I.D., and your information is recorded, you know does that information make its way back to the Federal Government in some form or fashion somehow?."
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I would say keep your guns-
Its looking like everyone will need one soon ...

—almst every grower i know has theirs with all the lawlessness going on ...

-factor in the thuggz in every major city that dnt follow ANY laws &the 810,00 new ‘immigrants’ we’ve gotten since jan6 &im nt sure how much experience any of you have with somali,guatemalen ms13,communist POGROMs or crips/bloods gangs but im saving up for a bennelli m4

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im thinking everyone shd have guns now for hunting &protection ...(in minecraft)


“We shall unleash the nihilists and the atheists and we shall provoke a great social cataclysm which in all its horror will show clearly to all nations the effect of absolute atheism; the origins of savagery and of most bloody turmoil.

Then everywhere, the people will be forced to defend themselves against the world minority of the world revolutionaries and will exterminate those destroyers of civilization and the multitudes disillusioned with Christianity whose spirits will be from that moment without direction and leadership and anxious for an ideal, but without knowledge where to send its adoration, will receive the true light through the universal manifestation of the pure doctrine of Lucifer brought finally out into public view. A manifestation which will result from a general reactionary movement which will follow the destruction of Christianity and Atheism; both conquered and exterminated at the same time.”

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Herb & Suds

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I would say keep your guns-
Its looking like everyone will need one soon ...

—almst every grower i know has theirs with all the lawlessness going on ...

-factor in the thuggz in every major city that dnt follow ANY laws &the 810,00 new ‘immigrants’ we’ve gotten since jan6 &im nt sure how much experience any of you have with somali,guatemalen ms13,communist POGROMs or crips/bloods gangs but im saving up for a bennelli m4

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im thinking everyone shd have guns now for hunting &protection ...(in minecraft)


“We shall unleash the nihilists and the atheists and we shall provoke a great social cataclysm which in all its horror will show clearly to all nations the effect of absolute atheism; the origins of savagery and of most bloody turmoil.

Then everywhere, the people will be forced to defend themselves against the world minority of the world revolutionaries and will exterminate those destroyers of civilization and the multitudes disillusioned with Christianity whose spirits will be from that moment without direction and leadership and anxious for an ideal, but without knowledge where to send its adoration, will receive the true light through the universal manifestation of the pure doctrine of Lucifer brought finally out into public view. A manifestation which will result from a general reactionary movement which will follow the destruction of Christianity and Atheism; both conquered and exterminated at the same time.”

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Lets not leave out the violent right insurrectionist types
You know "cult" members
 

buckaroo bonzai

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Lets not leave out the violent right insurrectionist types
You know "cult" members
yes the ‘riot’ at the capitol...

whatever-
everyones in the mix on this one mR sudz...

the country will probably balkanize which is their favorite program-
divide everything between oligarchs like all the other countries theyve colonized-

were living in prophecy herb-
we’re the last apple on the tree...

violence seems like its in the air-
Im just glad i have alot of X military LEO friends who are awake

-I will bug-out w them...
cities are like weimar now-

ענן מבלבל

“We shall unleash the nihilists and the atheists and we shall provoke a great social cataclysm which in all its horror will show clearly to all nations the effect of absolute atheism; the origins of savagery and of most bloody turmoil.
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Herb & Suds

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yes the ‘riot’ at the capitol...

whatever-
everyones in the mix on this one mR sudz...

the country will probably balkanize which is their favorite program-
divide everything between oligarchs like all the other countries theyve colonized-

were living in prophecy herb-
we’re the last apple on the tree...

violence seems like its in the air-
Im just glad i have alot of X military LEO friends who are awake

-I will bug-out w them...
cities are like weimar now-

ענן מבלבל

“We shall unleash the nihilists and the atheists and we shall provoke a great social cataclysm which in all its horror will show clearly to all nations the effect of absolute atheism; the origins of savagery and of most bloody turmoil.
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Just hide in your bunker except on target practice days
Cause a lot of folks are prepared to snipe insurrectionist against the US government
Watch your six
 

buckaroo bonzai

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I'm truly concerned about all this right wing talk of violent actions basically vigilanteism like that punk in Indiana
who is right wing?
-how can you tell?

those red trump hats?
-ive seen those actually trigger people now ...

trying to figure out what your ‘concerned‘ about?
what are vigilante-‘ISM’

is this forum infiltrated with violent right wing nuts?
-who is ‘the punk’ frm indiana?

shd we not post in here?!?

tellus please...

hows your garden tho?
what are you growing?
this is a marijuana forum
im growing some killer oGs


im not smellin what your steppin in tho...
-threads like this stimulate some heady stuf


your the mod now right?
are we safe in here &allowed to discuss whatever we want?

what are the rules of what we ‘cant’ talk about can you post them?

you ever read albert pike?
-his predictions seem to be coming true...
 

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Herb & Suds

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who is right wing?
-how can you tell?

those red trump hats?
-ive seen those actually trigger people now ...

trying to figure out what your ‘concerned‘ about?
what are vigilante-‘ISM’

is this forum infiltrated with violent right wing nuts?
-who is ‘the punk’ frm indiana?

shd we not post in here?!?

tellus please...

hows your garden tho?
what are you growing?
this is a marijuana forum
im growing some killer oGs


im not smellin what your steppin in tho...
-threads like this stimulate some heady stuf


your the mod now right?
are we safe in here &allowed to discuss whatever we want?

what are the rules of what we ‘cant’ talk about can you post them?

you ever read albert pike?
-his predictions seem to be coming true...
Put your victim card back in your pocket , princess it has been revoked since January 6th
 

buckaroo bonzai

Well-Known Member
Just hide in your bunker except on target practice days
Cause a lot of folks are prepared to snipe insurrectionist against the US government
Watch your six
that sounds violent ...
-you think violence is coming?

I think theres a reason they want everyones guns now-

im peaceful non violent person mR suds but i am thinking of getting tht bennelli-—ive always wanted one for bird hunting
i do grouse woodcock my favorite sport-

i dnt have a bunker ...
-i live in the ghetto literally

ok your talking about the govt?
im all for law &order...

seems like our society is breaking apart tho eh?
-mayb if we focus on growing &spreading peace &love it will all go away
ענן מבלבל

I see a breakdown of law &order all over the country-
the few retired LEO friends i have tell me things are not good around the nation right now especially for LEOs trying to enforce the law

my viewpoint has always been leos have too much aggression but i see them being neutered now
-have you seen the reports tho tht homicide is up 56% in all major US cities since the defund started

seems to be all part of some type plan but im still trying to figure it out-

agin hows your garde goin herb?
whos gt the fiyah

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Herb & Suds

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that sounds violent ...
-you think violence is coming?

I think theres a reason they want everyones guns now-

im peaceful non violent person mR suds but i am thinking of getting tht bennelli-—ive always wanted one for bird hunting
i do grouse woodcock my favorite sport-

i dnt have a bunker ...
-i live in the ghetto literally

ok your talking about the govt?
im all for law &order...

seems like our society is breaking apart tho eh?
-mayb if we focus on growing &spreading peace &love it will all go away
ענן מבלבל

I see a breakdown of law &order all over the country-
the few retired LEO friends i have tell me things are not good around the nation right now especially for LEOs trying to enforce the law

my viewpoint has always been leos have too much aggression but i see them being neutered now
-have you seen the reports tho tht homicide is up 56% in all major US cities since the defund started

seems to be all part of some type plan but im still trying to figure it out-

agin hows your garde goin herb?
whos gt the fiyah

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"Defunding began ":clap::finger:
Red hats will make excellent targets for patriots
 

buckaroo bonzai

Well-Known Member
Put your victim card back in your pocket , princess it has been revoked since January 6th
what happened jan6?
-i dnt watch tell-a-vision
-havent in 20yrs

if your talking about politics i dnt get involved in that-
we dnt elect anyone
our rulers are ‘chosen’ i believe

like stalin said:...”its not who votes that counts its who counts the votes”...
i believe that-



whats a victim card?
-ive been robbed 5-6times being in the wrong place at the wrong time

i miss being in the mtns...

i dnt feel like a victim anymore tho i carefully choose my surroundings &people im around &i can protect myself if I have to

theres too many communists running around seems-
im just a prole like abe supercrow told me awhile ago

do you post on reddit?
-i thought this was a gun thread?

the bennelli is been my dream gun for awhile now-
i shot skeet in a club when i was younger thats a fun sport!
ive got garden beds to tend have a good one suDz

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Herb & Suds

Well-Known Member
We don't call them communist
We American Patriots call them fellow Americans
Sounds like your ilk will find happiness in another country
I bet Costa Rica suites you
Ah well ADIOS
 

buckaroo bonzai

Well-Known Member
"Defunding began ":clap::finger:
Red hats will make excellent targets for patriots

yea i agree i think they will be shooting @People with red hats in the future-
im glad i dnt own any red hats i dnt want to be a target

there's the article tho i felt like mayb you didn't believe me-

woah woah tho-
jst saw your post above me-

what does >‘your ilk’ even mean?!?
-im born &raised in detroit/dearborn/plymouth

are you trying to say your part of antifa?
i know about that group and I dont agree with them

actually i dnt agree with communism period having friends in my past that have escaped communist/socialist countries-vietnam,cuba,guatemala,venezula,romania
the stories they wd tell me...

and i actually DO have friends in costa rica-
funny story they live highin the mtns in ayahuasca country &i spoke with him around the 1st of the yr he told me he did an ayahuasca vision quest &in his vision he saw the chinese army marching across the untied states &was quite freaked out by it because it was so real to him in his vision-—he was totally freaked out by it

-im actually starting to think there may be some truth in his vision with all the insanity im seeing everywhere-

im thinking you are sending me ‘veiled’ threats tho...
i thought you were the mod?

the guy tht can bann people?
so your drawing a line in the sand here

does this mean you wnt be coming to the bbq?
-nt sure theres gna be any bbq anyway

this is why we cant have nice things or bbqs-
too much politics now even in sharing a joint or having a bbq

but i digress...


too bad the country is so divided with all this bS-—its going to be an interesting summer

yea no im not communist if thats what your implying-
ive gt family tht died fighting tht shit-



im american
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