Growing for Seeds

Majikoopa

Majikoopa

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I am growing Lowryder from Amsterdammarijuanaseeds.com right now and since I only ordered 10 and don't want to risk wasting my money if I order again and the seeds dont show, I have decided to grow them for seeds. I have four healthy plants going right now. It about 17 days in and two have already shown their sex, which is female. The other two look like the could be female, but I am not sure yet.

I basically have three questions:

1) If I grow these for seeds, how many seeds does one generally get from a plant which has been fully pollinated? What about for lowryder in particular?

2) If the other two turn out to be female as well, it it safe to pollinate the others by inducing one or two to become male with an aspirin solution sprayed on the leaves?

3) How early/ late in the lifecycle should it be before I begin spraying the aspirin solution on the one I choose to try to induce male flowering on?

Thanks guys, I know these are probably noob questions.
 
I can't properly answer your seed questions as I've never grown for seeds, but I do have some thoughts as to why I wouldn't do what you want to do.

Have you grown Lowryder before? Most people like to mix it up strain-wise, but by growing seeds you are expending a lot of energy and risk to marry yourself to this strain. Personally I'd spend the money on more seeds instead of devoting all those resources. What do they cost $100? You want to trade the bud from an entire plant and the nutes/lights/risk for two entire plants - growing for seeds get expensive. And every grow I like to try something new anyways.

OK, so say you love the strain and can't live without it and want to smoke it forever. Then screw the seeds. Just keep one of your females and bonsai her and you can take all the clones you want off her. Seeds are a huge waste if you already grew the strain. Clones not only guarantee a female, but a phenotype, AND they save time.

Something to consider anyways.
 
Thanks for the input. I would love to grow clones, except that what I have read says you generally cannot do that because lowryder is an autoflower. Do you know of clones coming from lowryder with great success? Unfortunately though, I have to marry myself to this or another similarly small strain (maybe lowryder 2?) because I am very limited on grow space. Literally, my plants can only get up to 2 ft tall in my box because of its dimensions.

Thanks
 
Majikoopa said:
Thanks for the input. I would love to grow clones, except that what I have read says you generally cannot do that because lowryder is an autoflower. Do you know of clones coming from lowryder with great success? Unfortunately though, I have to marry myself to this or another similarly small strain (maybe lowryder 2?) because I am very limited on grow space. Literally, my plants can only get up to 2 ft tall in my box because of its dimensions.

Thanks
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That's a very good question about clones, I don't know. I'll look around.
 
I think you are 100% right. Seeds are the way to go as it looks like you can't clone a Low Ryder. I did find this though, maybe check out Mighty Mite.

Low Ryder flowers based upon sexual maturity which is related to calendar age. It is impossible to keep an auto strain in a state of perpetual veg that would allow for cloning.

The only exception is Mighty Mite, which is not in fact a true auto strain; rather, one that has been bred to flower in day length less than 18 hours.

Sorry to interrupt your thread, I hope a seed expert comes by!
 
Never heard about the aspirin to turn a plant hermie. Interesting.

As for # of seeds, thats like asking how long is a piece of string?

Each pistil pair (can't spell the correct term) is capable of producing a seed, if it gets pollen.

Letting nature do its thing will work.
You can do your thing too. When a male is ready to drop its pollen, take it aside and shake the pollen out of it and collect it. Mix with a little flour to cut it. Then use a small artist paintbrush to pollinate the females.

Forcing a female to go hermie, be careful with that pollen. The self pollinated plants will produce seeds/plants that are much more prone to being hermie.
Use the hermie pollen to pollinate other females.
(will get fem seeds too boot)

And since you have 4 plants going, 2 females and 2 unknown, think about only pollinated one of them You will get seeds, and the others will give good buds. (just keep them apart for a week or two) You can still smoke seeded bud too. Its just a little less 'happy' :)
 
BigBudBalls said:
Never heard about the aspirin to turn a plant hermie. Interesting.

As for # of seeds, thats like asking how long is a piece of string?

Each pistil pair (can't spell the correct term) is capable of producing a seed, if it gets pollen.

Letting nature do its thing will work.
You can do your thing too. When a male is ready to drop its pollen, take it aside and shake the pollen out of it and collect it. Mix with a little flour to cut it. Then use a small artist paintbrush to pollinate the females.

Forcing a female to go hermie, be careful with that pollen. The self pollinated plants will produce seeds/plants that are much more prone to being hermie.
Use the hermie pollen to pollinate other females.
(will get fem seeds too boot)

And since you have 4 plants going, 2 females and 2 unknown, think about only pollinated one of them You will get seeds, and the others will give good buds. (just keep them apart for a week or two) You can still smoke seeded bud too. Its just a little less 'happy' :)
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:leaf:Sweet. Thanks for the info, it was really helpful. I think I will just pollinate one and let the other grow some fine bud (as fine as can be expected from a 1st time grow lol).:leaf:
 
Picasso345 said:
I think you are 100% right. Seeds are the way to go as it looks like you can't clone a Low Ryder. I did find this though, maybe check out Mighty Mite.

Low Ryder flowers based upon sexual maturity which is related to calendar age. It is impossible to keep an auto strain in a state of perpetual veg that would allow for cloning.

The only exception is Mighty Mite, which is not in fact a true auto strain; rather, one that has been bred to flower in day length less than 18 hours.

Sorry to interrupt your thread, I hope a seed expert comes by!
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:leaf:Thanks for the info man! I think I will look into Mighty Mite in the future. Do you have a link to a site where I can look at seed prices? (preferably one that ships to USA):leaf:
 
Majikoopa said:
:leaf:Sweet. Thanks for the info, it was really helpful. I think I will just pollinate one and let the other grow some fine bud (as fine as can be expected from a 1st time grow lol).:leaf:
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Don't discount a first grow. I did 3 plants and averaged just over an once per plant.
 
I was limited to space also so I found a seed for Papaya on Nirvana's site. It says they are a short plant and flowers quickly. It cost me $42 and made it to the US in about 10 days. It came in a stealth package. I am not having real good luck with them right now but that is purely my stupidity. They are not an autoflower so if I can get them to live I want to take some clones. That is always the best way. Always get the same.
 
BigBudBalls said:
Never heard about the aspirin to turn a plant hermie. Interesting.

As for # of seeds, thats like asking how long is a piece of string?

Each pistil pair (can't spell the correct term) is capable of producing a seed, if it gets pollen.

Letting nature do its thing will work.
You can do your thing too. When a male is ready to drop its pollen, take it aside and shake the pollen out of it and collect it. Mix with a little flour to cut it. Then use a small artist paintbrush to pollinate the females.

Forcing a female to go hermie, be careful with that pollen. The self pollinated plants will produce seeds/plants that are much more prone to being hermie.
Use the hermie pollen to pollinate other females.
(will get fem seeds too boot)

And since you have 4 plants going, 2 females and 2 unknown, think about only pollinated one of them You will get seeds, and the others will give good buds. (just keep them apart for a week or two) You can still smoke seeded bud too. Its just a little less 'happy' :)
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Quick question. By "less happy" do you mean it wont be a strong high, or do you mean it might have more of that nasty paranoia feeling? :leaf:
 
ok Im gonna take the bull by the horns and stear this shit back to normality

first of
1. you can clone lowryder but the clones will develop at the same rate as the mother so pointless

2. forceing a female to go male/herm is called femming your seeds it will make all female seeds or most

3.this can be done by different method the best are

light stressing turn the lights on for an hour during the dark period and vise versa the light

use gibberilic acid,sivler water solution

and the anwser is yes less potent because it the plant made seeds instead of thc

also for number of seeds were talk full pollinate a female of 4 feet can produce 20,000 seeds but it takes about 3 males to do that if you do one of yours id say about 1000+ let me know how many you do get im out
 
ontariogrower said:
ok Im gonna take the bull by the horns and stear this shit back to normality

first of
1. you can clone lowryder but the clones will develop at the same rate as the mother so pointless

2. forceing a female to go male/herm is called femming your seeds it will make all female seeds or most

3.this can be done by different method the best are

light stressing turn the lights on for an hour during the dark period and vise versa the light

use gibberilic acid,sivler water solution

and the anwser is yes less potent because it the plant made seeds instead of thc

also for number of seeds were talk full pollinate a female of 4 feet can produce 20,000 seeds but it takes about 3 males to do that if you do one of yours id say about 1000+ let me know how many you do get im out
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You have been very helpful. Thank you :leaf:
 
Update: They showed their sex signs today. Two still appear to be female and the other two (this doesnt surprise me because they were scentless) are male. Nice little balls and pistils as far as the eye can see :D
 
Majikoopa said:
I am growing Lowryder from Amsterdammarijuanaseeds.com right now and since I only ordered 10 and don't want to risk wasting my money if I order again and the seeds dont show, I have decided to grow them for seeds. I have four healthy plants going right now. It about 17 days in and two have already shown their sex, which is female. The other two look like the could be female, but I am not sure yet.

I basically have three questions:

1) If I grow these for seeds, how many seeds does one generally get from a plant which has been fully pollinated? What about for lowryder in particular?

2) If the other two turn out to be female as well, it it safe to pollinate the others by inducing one or two to become male with an aspirin solution sprayed on the leaves?

3) How early/ late in the lifecycle should it be before I begin spraying the aspirin solution on the one I choose to try to induce male flowering on?

Thanks guys, I know these are probably noob questions.
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I've been thinking, what is the point of seeds when you can clone.

Make a small, CFL box with enough place for a few clones and two mothers, it shouldn't waste that much electricity, you veg the mothers for a few weeks, then take clones from them, actually use all the mothers branches, and make many clones, then after they veg put all of them into a 12/12 space with a powerful HPS, only leave 2 plants in the veg box to become mothers, and after a while you can repeat the whole process, this way you will always have female clones, you will save weeks of planting seeds and waiting fot them to grow, and keeping 2 plants in veg won't be that costy. You can even make it 1/2 the size, with only one mother, and harves each month - take the mother, use her for clones but fill your flowering box only halfway, in a 2 weeks take clones from the clone you left for mother, veg them for 2 more weeks, and 1 month after the first batch put the second batch in the box. They you will have a month to prepare the next batch, and the first batch should be ready by then. And so each month you will take clones in the middle of the month, and in the end you will harves and put the freshly vegged plants into flowering.
 
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