GroErr Grows...

Discussion in 'Indoor Growing' started by GroErr, Nov 24, 2014.

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    SSGrower

    SSGrower Well-Known Member

    Yeah, holding that humidity above 50 or as long as possible seems to work best. The box lid was starting to curl and some of the leaves were getting a bit crunchy, so I jarred earlier than I wanted.
     
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    Javadog

    Javadog Well-Known Member

    Those last bud-leaves are like natures packaging. I "open" them up right before I enjoy the bud inside. :0)
     
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    SSGrower

    SSGrower Well-Known Member

    I figure I'd rub more trichs off by trying to trim them, considering the duff on the tray gets rolled into a joint that I wouldn't trade for a dispensary preroll plus 5 bucks, give me 10 and i'll think about it.
     
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    Underground Scientist

    Underground Scientist Well-Known Member

    Unless you tried to dry sift the trim...that could lead to some great material.
     
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    Underground Scientist

    Underground Scientist Well-Known Member

    I'm ready GrowErr. This Blue Cheese harvest in a month...I'm putting this 100 mesh to use and see what I get, freezing, chopping, the whole 9. I was wondering if I freeze then chop it, is there a drying time before sifting?...I would think.
     
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    GroErr

    GroErr Well-Known Member

    That works too :mrgreen:

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    GroErr

    GroErr Well-Known Member

    Nice, you'll like it, good for smoking or edibles. You can probably work it either way. I dry it like normal, then trim, the trim and small buds go into a curing tin for some burping/curing. When I get a full tin (2lb. coffee tins) it goes in the freezer. When I need some sift I chop/re-freeze/sift over a day or two.

    Edit: imo, when you dry/cure/sift it maintains the terps better. Seems like a lot of extra work but I think it produces a better end product.
     
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    Underground Scientist

    Underground Scientist Well-Known Member

    So do you dry the trim for a few days before the initial screening? Or do you trim, freeze, chop, dry, screen, refreeze, chop, dry, screen? Quality is what I want, maybe for edibles or caps. My gf really shouldn't smoke literally, but did after a long time and really enjoyed the effects. Edible would be ideal, but she is a control junkie, so she hates committing to trying something like edibles that you have to ride out the effects. I'd like to make a mild snack to start somewhere and go from there.
     
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    GroErr

    GroErr Well-Known Member

    Yeah, I dry and cure like normal, then freeze. I trim dry but others trim wet, I just follow the normal process then freeze when I'd normally jar. I just don't chop and re-freeze until I'm going to run some, laziness mainly ;)

    I get it with the edibles, my GF doesn't smoke and it's taken a while but now she takes low dosage caps nightly. Took a while but her dose is 25mg caps and that dose gives her a slight stone but not over the top (she doesn't like the "stoned" part), when she comes down though it's lights out. It's basically a sleeping pill. The caps using sift are easy enough to adjust dosage and keep it consistent.
     
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    Underground Scientist

    Underground Scientist Well-Known Member

    Nice...Right

    My GF was laughing quite a bit more than normal after smoking and said when she went to bed, the bed hugged her like a cloud...lol. She's battled cancer for quite a few years. She has a hard time sleeping and might take valium or Xanax from time to time. She sometimes is up all night. This might be a little relief. I don't think she minds a light stone, but totally want to avoid strong effects or anything anxiety inducing.
     
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    GroErr

    GroErr Well-Known Member

    Yeah those low dose caps sound just about right for what she needs for sleeping. It doesn't seem to matter how high or low the dose is, the sleepy effects kick in after about 3-4 hours and it's pretty well impossible to fight the head nods. She was up/down all night with hot flashes for a while and now she can sleep through, or at least if she does wake up she gets right back to sleep.

    If you keep stony/night time strains separate you can manage things like anxiety with the sift, just don't throw any sativas in there or sat-dom hybrids. The effects are just like smoking it other than they last longer and if you increase your cook times by ~10 minutes it typically makes it more stony for that sleeping pill effect.
     
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    SSGrower

    SSGrower Well-Known Member

    I have been interisted in doing this, usually I make bubble hash in a mason jar, but the last time it slipped out of my hand when I was shaking it, cought the corner of the kitchen counter top and EXPLODED everywhere, glass, wet weed, chunks of weed covered ice, it was on the fucking ceiling!

    After seeing the 350 price tag on a sift box I've been thinking about making one, or atleast a screen frame.

    What kind of screen do you use? Any benifit to multiple stacked mesh sizes? Are they steel or poly? Do you use dry ice too or just freeze? Any chance you have a tutorial in here?

    ......I still have 95 questions left.
     
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    GroErr

    GroErr Well-Known Member

    Ouch, that does sounds like a bit of a mess. I've run bubble in the bags and it works fine, I just don't smoke that much hash and if I do I have a perpetual jar of finger hash that's much better than any bubble hash I've tried.

    $350 for a sift box seems steep. A while back I'd posted some screens I found on Ali Express, cheap, better for handling & processing. You can run it while sitting on a couch with these which was my driver. I had a sift screen that I'd made, simple wood frame and stainless steel screen (you want stainless). The only issue with it was bending over it processing was a back killer. With these sieves below you can grab a catch tray, multiple screens (different mesh sizes) etc. depending on what you want your sift for.

    Here's the details & links on the sieves/screens:
    https://www.rollitup.org/t/groerr-grows.851933/page-230#post-13884765

    For edibles you'll want somewhere between 80-100 mesh (link provides a link to mesh/micron equivalents)
    For smoking you want somewhere between 140-200 mesh

    The finer the screen, the finer the sift and better quality for smoking. But your yields go down as you go finer of course. Having 2 screens allows you to run both at the same time stacked on top of each other or separate runs depending on what you want.
     
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    GroErr

    GroErr Well-Known Member

    Some pics of the seedlings & clones coming up. I split the seedlings into the 2x4 veg tent and left the clones in the 32x32 tent. Clones will sit in there waiting to be re-cloned until I need the space for the seedlings depending on how many make it through the culls. If I need more veg space I'll move the clones into a veg cabinet and use the 32x32 and 2x4 to veg out the seedlings.

    Columbian Ripper F1's on left, Blue Ripper BX1's centre and Blue Ripper x Blue Pyramid F1's on right. Looking like all 10x CR's and 9x BR's will make it to the sexing stage. The BR x BP's are still struggling, going to hit the BP I have in the flower room with the Blue Ripper BX1/rks male to see if it brings something better to the table. Will likely let about 5-6 of those go through if they pick it up a little. One of the BP's took on the yellow/green leaf mutation from the BP mother, will let it go and see if it's worthwhile running later.

    Clones:

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    Seedlings:

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    Closer look at some of the seedlings...

    Columbian Ripper F1:

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    Blue Ripper BX1:

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    Blue Ripper x Blue Pyramid F1 & the mutant:

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    BRxBP-F1-Mutant-Day14-1.JPG

    Cheers :bigjoint:
     
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    GroErr

    GroErr Well-Known Member

    Getting at some of the seeds I ran last round in the breeding tent and branches in the flower room. Still have several to de-seed but got some nice viable quantities to test through in these. The small clones flipped on up-pot & open pollinated produced just over 200 seeds each, the branches hit in the flower room produced 80-100. All were hit with the Blue Ripper BX1 rks male, very interested to see if that trait moves through these :mrgreen:

    Dream Ripper = Blue Ripper x Blue Dream
    BR x SS = Blue Ripper x Sand Storm (looking for that Spearmint smell/flavour from the SS)
    BR x SK7 = Blue Ripper x Skunk #1 P7 (nice skunky smells & flavours in both, could be good)
    BR x FB = Blue Ripper x Fireballs (2x frost & taste monsters, could be some fire in there)

    Seeds-3-3-2018-1.JPG BR-rks-xSS-F1-1.JPG BR-rks-xFB-F1-1.JPG BR-rks-xSK7-F1-1.JPG DR-BX1-rks-1.JPG

    Cheers :bigjoint:
     
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    GroErr

    GroErr Well-Known Member

    Ladies in the flower room aren't complaining. Day 13 from flip, small buds starting to show on all of them. Still a little stretch to go this week and should settle into flowering. Will hit the one's slated for some sex next weekend :mrgreen:

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    Cheers :bigjoint:
     
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    HydoDan

    HydoDan Well-Known Member

    I've got a plant that I thought was fem until I found one male pre flower... Have you ever dealt with this? Is it a definite herm or something I should keep an eye on? I ran clones for years then fem'd seeds so I'm a little lacking in reg seed knowledge...
    Please enlighten me..
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    GroErr

    GroErr Well-Known Member

    Hard to tell from the pic, she looks good from here. I do see some activity on the top, looks like maybe some pre-flowers, that's not unusual for plants that have vegged for a while. If you can grab a close up of the suspect area maybe I or someone else can have a look.
     
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    HydoDan

    HydoDan Well-Known Member

    This is the best shot.. If it has one male pre flower is it going to herm out?
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    Javadog

    Javadog Well-Known Member

    Fat Beans ! !

    (that was a reference to the seed shots above)

    I do see that nard....that is indeed *not* a nanner.....not good. I had a set or two
    of those ruin a grow for the first time not too long ago.

    You sure can try pulling it and just watching the plant.

    I am running a 4X4 and a 5X5...over 40 plants and not two are alike...I could
    probably not handle the close watching that this plant would need....but you
    might be able to. Just keep it near the door of the tent and watch it like a hawk.

    Good luck,

    JD
     
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