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Discussion in 'Seed and Strain Reviews' started by puffntuff, Dec 1, 2014.

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    jayblaze710

    jayblaze710 Well-Known Member

    There’s a reason why any breeders working with Wedding Cake are using the Jungle Boys cut. If you weren’t so focused on being an old school hipster, Jungle Boys makes good shit. I’m fine with it not being your cup of tea. Hell, it’s not mine either. That doesn’t mean they don’t produce top shelf stuff.

    This is such an idiotic statement. Of course popping more seeds increases your odds of finding something amazing. That’s literally how statistics work.

    And my point is that Jungle Boys are sifting through more seeds than almost every single breeder out there. If they can’t find fire in a hundred packs of elite genetics, then we should just quit popping our measly little packs at home.

    Phenohunting isn’t exactly difficult. You could convince yourself that JB is just a bunch of idiots who can’t recognize a good plant from a bad one. Or just acknowledge that they put in the work and there’s more to them than just hype.

    Cannarado, Seed Junky, Thug Pug, Capulator, Swamp Boys, Archive...there’s a reason why all these breeders are working with cuts that Jungle Boys selected.
     
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    jonsnow399

    jonsnow399 Well-Known Member

    Its a given that a breeder must know what he is looking for, with that and everything else being equal, the breeder growing out large numbers of plants has a much greater chance of finding something special. I read somewhere that Mendel basically said the same thing.
     
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    CannaBruh

    CannaBruh Well-Known Member

    Idiotic? Howso... it increases your relative chances sure, but the overall odds for each seed are changed in what way the more seeds I sprout?
     
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    tman42

    tman42 Well-Known Member

    I put two each of Wedding Cake, Do_Si_Dos and Gelato into Root Riot cubes and they were all up in under 72 hours. Glad to see you got it sorted out with GU and good luck on those in the future.

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    jayblaze710

    jayblaze710 Well-Known Member

    It’s $54 1/8th for recreational (including all the taxes). Is that pricy? Yeah. But it’s kinda the standard price for top shelf weed purchased at a legit recreational shop in SoCal. You can find stuff for cheaper, but IME, most of the shops selling for cheaper are gray area shops that aren’t following regulations and don’t have a license to sell recreational.

    I can totally understand being critical of their grow style. I myself prefer an organic grow, preferably living soil with amendments. There aren’t any commercial growers that grow that way, and never will be. It’s an unfortunate reality of the legal marijuana market. I’ve had some product from other commercial growers that’s definitely on par with Jungle Boys. But I wouldn’t say I’ve found any that are consistently better.
     
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    jayblaze710

    jayblaze710 Well-Known Member

    What?! Mendel never said anything of the sort. My background is in evolutionary biology. I would know. Mendel was only interested in how traits were passed down, he had no interest in selective breeding.

    Seed Junky is literally using the Jungle Boys cut of Wedding Cake in his crosses! Many breeders that have their stuff grown by Jungle Boys end up using their cuts in future breeding projects.
     
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    Heisengrow

    Heisengrow Well-Known Member

    I apologize to Gu for the blanket statement.After researching some more those beans are as legit as S1's can get.I mean really thats what your getting is an S1.I did not realize Gu spent so much time checking the place out and making sure the quality was up to his standards.
    Nothing is gonna change my opinion about GP gear since everything of his ive ran has been stellar.I suppose it all rubbed me the wrong way after i made the GG order than looked further into it after someone told me to watch them carefully.I know the GG is famous for herms but ive had other GG crosses that never hermed.Living in a shit state its impossibe to get the cut unless i drive 20 hours so the S1 i have been waiting a while for seemed legit.
    His shit is always fire so again i apologize.
     
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    Gu~

    Gu~ Well-Known Member

    You've been super busy breathing in construction dust and wood glue. I appreciate your character.
     
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    BigHornBuds

    BigHornBuds Well-Known Member

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    Amos Otis

    Amos Otis Well-Known Member

    I just love a happy ending.

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    genuity

    genuity Resident chucker

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    2 of 6 Texas Butter

    1 of the 6 smells of taffy candy(kind of sweet) the rest are dawg smelling.
    Looking like some fast flowering gals in this batch.
     
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    Jhon77

    Jhon77 Well-Known Member

     
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    Jhon77

    Jhon77 Well-Known Member

    Somethingaboutgenetics on ig is the breeder about 99 percent sure that’s them
     
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    jonsnow399

    jonsnow399 Well-Known Member

    Maybe he didn't but the point remains.
     
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    jayblaze710

    jayblaze710 Well-Known Member

    No it doesn’t. The original breeders are literally using the Jungle Boys cuts in their projects. If that doesn’t say they do a good job of selecting, then I don’t know what fucking does.
     
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    jonsnow399

    jonsnow399 Well-Known Member

    You don't know what my point was then, only that large numbers of plants are better for selection, that's why Mendel chose peas to experiment on, they were easy to grow in large numbers.
     
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    yellowrx03

    yellowrx03 Well-Known Member

    Nice! How many weeks are u in to flower?
     
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    genuity

    genuity Resident chucker

    6 weeks.
     
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    kona gold

    kona gold Well-Known Member

    I never said I didn't like Jungle Boyz , and am no where near a hipster!

    But let's look at what you are talking about in two scenario's.
    Will go with a constant of 1000 seeds.
    1st scenario.....You get 500 males and 500 females. To do the most proper breeding of a strain, looking for the best male and female to breed. Say taking 2 clones of each to insure successful clone.
    You would have to make 2000 clones plus the 1000 seed strains you have . Those are huge numbers to run, and in most cases Federally big jail potential. Remember this is just for 1 strain.
    You would then have to grow them out to make a true selection of the best of those 1000 seeds.. Then you can make , what you are saying, a true selection. Then once you found your keepers, you would do your pollination. Then you must run those seeds to see if what you bred turns out with all the dominant characteristics you were shooting for , and zero recessive expression.
    Don't see anyone who will do it that way, but I don't know everything, and maybe they're some crazy bastards that do this?

    2nd scenario(more likely)...1000 seeds are started, 500 males, 500 females. Selection is then based on general health, vigor, stem rub, any visible trichomes, leaf size and shape, growth rate, and possibly a special trait that is particular to that strain....
    Then a selection of maybe 20 males and 20 females that best fit that description are kept, the rest culled. Then these males and females are grown out and the selection process begins. This part can get tricky, as now you might have 10 different females and 10 different males. Sone similarities and some differences. So now you try to narrow things down, but you like more than one. Just the same with the males. Some males exhibit some characteristics you like , but are different from each other. So now you're faced with having to choose one male and female out of this group. At this point, what your ideas were when you started, have potentially drifted to your selection of what your ideas have now changed to.
    Not that this is going to be a bad thing necessarily, but you might have drifted so far from your initial program, that you might not end up where you wanted to, or what your customers were expecting. Another disadvantage of this kind of selection based on what you think is the best plants, might not actually be the best plants. As many have experienced, including myself, that some that we don't see as the best in veg, turn out to be the best once they start to flower. Winding up to be the most potent, best tasting, and heaviest yielding of all.

    Smaller starting numbers allows one to explore more into the genetic traits of a particular cultivar or hybrid. Allowing full grow out of all seeds started, and makes it much easier, and in my opinion better, to select and keep on track with your initial breeding program.

    But that's just how I see it, and that doesn't have to mean shit to anyone else.

    Now that my brain hurts, i'm out!
    Peace and good breeding to all, and all your unique and individual ways!
     
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    kona gold

    kona gold Well-Known Member

    I really like the way you grow!
    Some special things seem to happen when you do your magic!
    You, and a few others here, produce flowers I would really like to smoke!!
     

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