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Whytewidow83

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Bakersfield said:
I've noticed longer times to initiate flower when the plant is not sexually mature yet.
A plant @ 4 weeks since birth is mature and will turn and finish just as fast as a clone of the same plant. The only difference between the 2 will be that clones are more compact than the mother grown from seed.
I typically have preflowers in 7 to 10 days after flip from mature females. Males 5 to 10.
I've noticed a 2 to 3 week flower initiation time from seedling, because they aren't mature they cannot accurately depict Their flower time.
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I have some plants in veg right now that are over 4 weeks and still have preflowers yet. Would you say they are mature because they are over 4 weeks?
 
Chunky Stool

Chunky Stool

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psychadelibud said:
I believe when I started my search for "trip weed" back around 6 years ago is when I stopped caring about flowering times.

I used to only purchase seeds based on breeders harvest dates. Then after I got a whole big bunch of years under my belt, I realized that unless you are growing out a landrace sativa, or heavily sativa dominant plant such as hazes, thais, zamals, crosses of those etc, the date advertised on that pack of seeds honestly did not matter.

You might get a pack of northern lights and find phenos finishing in 7 weeks and some finishing in 9 weeks. You get yourself some Zamal or Thais and you might as well be expecting 14 to 20 weeks.....

Then, say if one is planning on growing out lets say "Stardawg" crosses you better bet your gonna be looking at 9 weeks plus if you are familiar with stardawg and know your strains. It is always a good idea to read into the history of the plant you plan to grow such as "Stardawg" which has a tendency to run 70 plus days.

But anyway what I was getting at was when I started my search for trip weed, I finally bit the bullet and grabbed a bunch of Ace Seeds gear. Malawis, Golden Tigers, Thais, pure hazes, Zamaldelica... Etc etc..

For the first time I ran a plant over 14 weeks. Took Zamaldelica to 18 and a half weeks and still could have went longer. But I have to say the yield made up for the lost time as I scored an astounding 5 ounces off the Zamaldelica in a 2 gallon container of some very potent psychedelic flower. Everyone thought she was laced. Everyone was having panic attacks and heart attacks like they had never experienced before trying to swallow the knot in their throat.

People paid well for her. Golden tiger the same. Malawi the same.

But after running those it kinda "seasoned" me and broke me in. I have since ran at least 9 grows consisting of those long flowering NLD plants. So these beans that Gu~ offer really is nothing to me on the flowering time issues.

I can't wait till we can get this grow off contest up and running. I am so ready for it!
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I'm growing three zamaldelica F1s from a buddy and they are lanky as hell. Nodes are crazy far apart, like 5 inches! It's not environment or nutes because none of my other plants are stretching like this -- and I haven't even flipped them yet!
Could get interesting...
 
Chunky Stool

Chunky Stool

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Tangerine_ said:
You don't need to be a magician. Plenty of folks trade cuts. It all starts with building a good solid trusting relationship with fellow growers.
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Gotta be careful with clones. They are easy to make and sell for $15 so a lot of unscrupulous "cloners" just grow a plant, keep it in veg, and crank out the clones. They have no idea how the mother finishes.
Might be fire, might not. (probably not)
I used to get clones from a guy who absolutely would not sell a clone from a plant that he had not grown and finished himself. His reputation was impeccable. He got shut down when the state combined medical & recreational cannabis. :-(
 
Bakersfield

Bakersfield

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chiqifella said:
I think the majority of posters believe now that most often the finish date on a pack of seeds is about 2 weeks off? is this a coincidence?
always 2 weeks into a light change, no flowering evident maybe, but by 2 weeks in that room.......she is now visually in a state of flowering ..... when is an automatic plant in a state of flowering?

peace
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That's not been my experience, the dates used on the packets are usually spot on. Maybe, because I usually purchase seeds from reputable breeders that would never put their reputation on the line by deception.
 
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Bakersfield

Bakersfield

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Whytewidow83 said:
I have some plants in veg right now that are over 4 weeks and still have preflowers yet. Would you say they are mature because they are over 4 weeks?
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Yes, they have passed their seedling phase, have an adult number of leaflets on the leaf and when flipped to flower will show sex on a timely manner.
 
Chunky Stool

Chunky Stool

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Do you guys do the final repot before or after the flip? I always did it before the flip when running clones or fem seeds, but now that I'm running regulars I'd rather not repot males that will be discarded after showing gender.
It is my understanding that stress can cause the herm tendency to express itself early, which could be a disaster if not caught early. :o
 
Bakersfield

Bakersfield

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Chunky Stool said:
Do you guys do the final repot before or after the flip? I always did it before the flip when running clones or fem seeds, but now that I'm running regulars I'd rather not repot males that will be discarded after showing gender.
It is my understanding that stress can cause the herm tendency to express itself early, which could be a disaster if not caught early. :o
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It's always best to do so beforehand.
This allows the roots adequate time to branch out and establish themselves before the flip.
 
Humanrob

Humanrob

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Chunky Stool said:
Do you guys do the final repot before or after the flip? I always did it before the flip when running clones or fem seeds, but now that I'm running regulars I'd rather not repot males that will be discarded after showing gender.
It is my understanding that stress can cause the herm tendency to express itself early, which could be a disaster if not caught early. :o
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I'm dealing with this issue on my current run. I'm going straight from 4" sprouting pots to 3 gallon fabric pots -- their final pots. I'm going to pack 9 of them into my 3x3, which will only work using a single drain tray instead of individual catch trays (I'm growing in soil). When I can't let them get any bigger, I'll flip to 12/12 and then cull the boys as they show up. In the end I hope to run just 4 girls in there, and I'll move them back onto individual catch trays and spread them out.

This is the first time I've done it this way, so I'm not sure how it will work. It's going to be a lot of watering and it takes a lot of soil and nutes, that's the obvious downside (I recycle the soil into our outdoor garden, but it's still a lot of overhead). I'll let you know how it goes, but it's going to be 4 or 5 weeks before I really have a feel for it. I should up-pot them into their final pots in about a week, so that will be the first step.
 
rikdabrick

rikdabrick

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Humanrob said:
Last spring I bought seeds from OGS, I was trusting their choices in terms of what they stock and didn't really pay attention to the specific breeders. Turned out in the group I ordered I got some Greenpoint Dream Catcher. Solid plants, I've grown them indoors and outdoors (the indoors is still curing, but looks good). I just ordered The Deputy directly from GPS, I'm guessing they are on sale because they are older stock? I won't actually germinate them until next fall, so hopefully they aren't too old. Great sale price though, least I've ever paid for seeds.

From the incredibly broad descriptions of pheno variations of several of the strains listed on Greenpoint's website, it appears they are selling F1s? Is that normal for them? At least they are honest about it.

(sorry if any of this has been discussed, I'm new to this thread and have not read all 462 pages...)
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They're all F1's, but from everyone's descriptions Gu~s Stardawg male does a good job letting the females shine through while adding desirable traits.

And Gu~ said there's nothing wrong with the seeds, he's just tired of looking at them.
 
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