Greenpoint seeds!!

Cptn

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Just got a cease and desist letter from the Golden Nugget Las Vegas Hotel & Casino.

Looks like I'll need to change the Golden Goat x Stardawg name and the Rewards name.

Any ideas?
They likely have no legal standing as no one would ever confuse your golden nugget with their golden nugget. They are not even reasonably similar as to cause brand confusion. I’d tell them to pound sand.
@Gu~

Even though this is true, it doesn't stop them from making you bleed in legal fees to defend yourself.
Being right is not the same thing as winning.
This is the same kind of issue Josey et all had to deal with on the gorilla glue clusterfuck.

Internet search has a "golden nugget" is dominated by their hotel links for at least 2 pages. They are clearly working SEO aggressively.

Internet search on "golden goat" has a hotel in sweden, a band, a recycling center and a couple of tattoo parlors.
EVERYTHING else is dominated by hits on the clone only weed strain. Page after page after page of weed hits. Hits on Greenpoint's hybrid is top half of first page.
Their lawyers clearly are looking for work

I think the gold nugget program name is very much in the them of the wild west series.
You have been giving us indications that there is something new coming besides the wild west series, so attachment to that name might already be weak.
Wanna give us a preview about what new things we can expect?
Add to that the perception that most customers aren't even aware of gold nuggets anymore. It has become a rather abstract point system.
Why not call them "GreenPoints" or "Greenpoint Green"


One thing Josey's group did right through the glue thing was to use it as publicity and drive recognition of their strain. The adhesive people were the bad guys, and EVERYBODY knew that they were coming after the little guy giving away his killer cutting for free to help people.
The press releases went beyond normal cannabis media circles into mainstream.
For at least a year, Josey and team made statements that they could no longer call their product Gorilla Glue and would now call it the new name Original Glue, basically using the agreed transition period as a way to exploit the exposure, "cement" their rep as underdogs (see what I did there?) and promote the brand.

Whatever you do, I would consider adding a new strain called "Casino Lawyer". Price it at $1000 a pack and make it a cross of non-drug hermie hemp seed.
You could also have lines called "Shithouse Lawyer" and a "Jailhouse Lawyer" to round out the offering.
 

thenotsoesoteric

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They likely have no legal standing as no one would ever confuse your golden nugget with their golden nugget. They are not even reasonably similar as to cause brand confusion. I’d tell them to pound sand.
Um, no offense bro but you're way off as far as a legal standing. Goldnugget the phrase is copyrighted and has been long established before gps even existed. The nugget has all the power in this case.

As far as guerilla glue and girl scout cookies, if any breeder tried to make official packaging and whatnot then they too would get letters from lawyers.

Remember when WWF stood for world wrestling federation and world wildlife fund? Old vince spent millions trying to keep the WWF but the wild life fund had the name first so they won.
 

jayblaze710

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Um, no offense bro but you're way off as far as a legal standing. Goldnugget the phrase is copyrighted and has been long established before gps even existed. The nugget has all the power in this case.

As far as guerilla glue and girl scout cookies, if any breeder tried to make official packaging and whatnot then they too would get letters from lawyers.

Remember when WWF stood for world wrestling federation and world wildlife fund? Old vince spent millions trying to keep the WWF but the wild life fund had the name first so they won.
Golden Nugget is trademarked. Part of maintaining a trademark, means pursuing anyone seen to be infringing upon that trademark. If it can be shown that Golden Nugget ignored passed infringement, it gives another company a decent legal defense for using the trademark themselves. Basically, they obviously don’t care about their trademark because they let someone else use it, so I should be allowed to use it argument.

This is why you hear stories about small day cares receiving cease and desist letters from Disney for painting Mickey Mouse on their walls. If they want to retain their intellectual property, they have to aggressively pursue anyone infringing upon them.

Basically, just don’t name your strains after trademarked or copyrighted materials. It doesn’t matter how small time you are, they will go after you.
 

Velvet Elvis

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i thought, for copyright infringement the burden of proof is on them to prove that Gu has profited from using the name, and the customer initilly was turned onto GPS because of the name.

being 2 different products in states many many miles apart, I do not think the term gold nugget was misinterpreted. or misled a casino customer to buy from GPS instead.

whatever the case, its not worth the risk. just call them nuggets. and get rid of strain name.
 

GrowRijt

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Um, no offense bro but you're way off as far as a legal standing. Goldnugget the phrase is copyrighted and has been long established before gps even existed. The nugget has all the power in this case.

As far as guerilla glue and girl scout cookies, if any breeder tried to make official packaging and whatnot then they too would get letters from lawyers.

Remember when WWF stood for world wrestling federation and world wildlife fund? Old vince spent millions trying to keep the WWF but the wild life fund had the name first so they won.
Not saying at all that he should bother. I mean. Whatevs. But one of the things they need to prove is that there is a likely hood that a reasonable person could confuse the product or service with similar names. In this case that fails miserably as no reasonable person could say that here.

Josey Wales forced gorilla glue into settlement which is actually a win.

But all in all not worth a nickel fighting in this case. Change the name to something new and move on.

https://www.thecannabist.co/2017/10/04/gorilla-glue-marijuana-strains-lawsuit-settlement/89321/
 

dandyrandy

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Nicely cured Deputy #1. 5 weeks in jars. She’s my second favorite GPS at this point. Kept the heavy skunk rubber tire smells. Hard hitting head buzz making you prone to forget how to tie shoes. But who needs shoes when you aren’t getting up.

I’m giving pheno 2 and 3 another run just in case but #1 is the keeper. #2 has everything as well but the yield was pretty much medium. Really nice lime zest on exhale though. Tasty.
I have a deputy again this round. One of my favorites. You should try Knight Rider. It's my new favorite. I prefer them both over copper chem. And it's great.
 

Eyezreallow

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phone camera pretty shitty but this is one of my phenos of barnburner
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Those aren't shitty, they're great, especially when no one else is posting any Barn Burner pix or grows up, thank you for sharing. Looks like the stud really purples up the progeny, not lacking on resin though, big glands.

If you have more of that delicious budporn, please post it, also of the different females in late bloom would be awesome, I understand if you can't.
I need that fire back in my life and would be great to see them in action. I'm betting on they are leggy girls, while some might not be so stretchy, there's a great woodsy, grass, moss, insence, lemony, fuel stretch OGK in Fire OGK, and at least one more type, a real OGK/Cookie/Breath looker, not overly stretchy, fat shiny darkgreen leafs with the 3-finger leafs and max 5 fingers, completely covered in rich, greasy and sticky resin that have a very complex and nice scent. Some headgear for sure
I hope I find those genotypes in Barn Burner along with some chemmy, fried onions, garbage girls.
 
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waxman420

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It's weird how some people have good results with a given strain but others do not.


Ime its genetics that male he has his Genetics dominates average 5 girls per pack usually 1 really good 3 ok and 1 ugly sister.

Eagle scout pioneer cali cannon all owe me my 1 really good . Growing the rest of them -c.c. atm .
 

hillbill

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evergreengardener

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I plant seeds for variety and enjoyment, and the sheer wonder of a new individual plant finding its way in life makes me happy. Cloning has little appeal for me and others here.
I usually only clone a plant for 2 or 3 cycles. I always take them from a plant I put into flower. They don’t all go back into flower depending on how the original seed plants finished. I only grow for myself so I love to plant seeds for variety. My favorite part is all the different and unique smells

Some get ran a second time just so I can see what I can do with the plant. Most never get that 3rd run as I’m always ready to pop something else
 

TheSpaceFarm

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I plant seeds for variety and enjoyment, and the sheer wonder of a new individual plant finding its way in life makes me happy. Cloning has little appeal for me and others here.
Word! I love popping seeds. The mystery and variety really gets me lol. I try to clone most plants before flip just in case its something special but i usually never run em even if they are special. I always have more seeds and a huge FOMO problem lol. I use clones for breeding but thats about it.
 
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