Greenpoint seeds!!

evergreengardener

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I try not to assume the worst of his intentions in the absence of information from him.

It is easier/cheaper to keep existing customers than it is to get new ones. Marketing 101.

Clearly, price is a big driver for Greenpoint customers.
He knows that and knows that changing the price formula for sales will have to stay in the sweet spot regardless of how buyers get there.
He also knows people with equity stored in nuggets will expect to be made right. If he doesn't have a plan for that yet, it makes sense that he is working on one.

What is not happening right now is communication.
This can quickly create problems for a community trained to expect regular, direct interaction with a vendor. Especially with a group of persistent, tireless detractors stoking the flames of discontent any time he slips up.

@Gu~ needs to get his shit together and come back in here and explain things to his customer base. I believe that he will.

BTW: Congrats on the nuptials. Ally seems like a keeper.
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He did come back in late at night and seemingly drunk... idk how much he cleared up( oh yea nothing he was making things worse for himself so he posted the wedding photo!). He says if you lost nuggets there’s a special discount coupon but you have to email for it so most will never know
 

rollinfunk

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He’s been this way for a long time, and I’ve been calling him out on it for a long time. Only, everyone was so far up in Gu’s shit because you can get cheap packs, that people would choose to attack me instead.

S1’s. Not emailing people when they turned out to be fake. Payofix. Fake pics. No testing. Removing nuggets without notice. His business practices have sucked for a long, long time. This isn’t anything new.


This has been Gu’s MO for a long time. He just ignores complaints in this thread. And for a long time it worked, because everyone in this thread would defend the indefensible. It’s only within the last week that people have finally started listening to complaints.

As for the nuggets, they were a large incentive to purchase. They were given out in lieu of refunds during the S1 fiasco. Removing them without warning is complete and utter bullshit.


Yeah everyone chucks. But Gu is on a whole different level. He didn’t select his male. He didn’t select his females. He doesn’t test his crosses. He steals pics to represent his strains.

Can you think of another “breeder” that does the same? Some shitty seed banks probably do the same thing, but that’s it. There are probably a dozen chuckers active in this thread that are better breeders than Gu. And they trade or give away their seeds.
He didn’t select his male. He didn’t select his females. He doesn’t test his crosses. He steals pics to represent his strains.

Not sure about the pics, but you are right that someone else found the stardawg male. He said it was from E$2 or something like that. The male was tested before Gu got it. He lost it once and got it back. Did he lose it again?
Monster Cookies - reports of herms
PBOG - reports of herms
Stardawg - fire, now not fire?
Cookies n Chem - he's looking for a male in there now. Why not search for a couple of males and stress test them? Grow the F2s to F3 then select a few stable males

I have a ton of Stardawg crosses that are mostly old. I'll still run through them, but I def don't need anymore stardawg crosses. I think i'll just start collecting my own pollen. No need to buy seeds anymore unless it's something I don't already have in a cross. Some heirloom/landraces. If Gu has a lot of plants, just work one line 3 cycles and stabilize the strain. I'd rather see that than 1 male x every cut (that may not be real). There is def fake/renamed stuff in CO. I saw SSDD from bodhi renamed something else at a store.
 

Heisengrow

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He didn’t select his male. He didn’t select his females. He doesn’t test his crosses. He steals pics to represent his strains.

Not sure about the pics, but you are right that someone else found the stardawg male. He said it was from E$2 or something like that. The male was tested before Gu got it. He lost it once and got it back. Did he lose it again?
Monster Cookies - reports of herms
PBOG - reports of herms
Stardawg - fire, now not fire?
Cookies n Chem - he's looking for a male in there now. Why not search for a couple of males and stress test them? Grow the F2s to F3 then select a few stable males

I have a ton of Stardawg crosses that are mostly old. I'll still run through them, but I def don't need anymore stardawg crosses. I think i'll just start collecting my own pollen. No need to buy seeds anymore unless it's something I don't already have in a cross. Some heirloom/landraces. If Gu has a lot of plants, just work one line 3 cycles and stabilize the strain. I'd rather see that than 1 male x every cut (that may not be real). There is def fake/renamed stuff in CO. I saw SSDD from bodhi renamed something else at a store.
Strainly is a forum sponsor now.i saw it the other day.there is a shit load of genetics up there.might be worth checking out.
 

Chunky Stool

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Why do people only suck his nuts on a thread he comes on.the other forums are full of complaints that they know he will never read.dude ain't gonna cut no breaks or give you'll free packs of seeds.
His seeds suck.i popped 4 packs and only half germinated.i got 7 females out 22 and they looked like hammered dick.the ones I tosssed were even worse.12 inch plants in rdwc with 30 branches and shit.rediculous how these phenos are all over the map.majority of what I'm seeing looks like giant upside down hanging dingleberrys.GP is nothing like it was a year ago back when Bob and a few others were posting.anyone who thinks any of this shit looks good dont get out much or havnt ran anything else besides GP.
I'm not saying it's all garbage but the majority really looks like bottom end shit from great lakes genetic pollen chuck department.
Matter of fact some of the stuff in the pollen chuck thread looks as good or better.indont get where people keep calling all this latest stuff fire when multiple people are saying the stuff isnt finishing and weak.one thing I find funny that has been brought up several. Times and gu skipped around was if he lost his male.dollars to donuts it went into full flower mode and is gone.thats just my opinion
I've wondered about the male, especially since someone said they are harder to keep going perpetually than females.
So if the seeds were better a year ago, maybe older discontinued strains like Maverick, butch cassidy, and boomtown are worth consideration.
 

Heisengrow

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I've wondered about the male, especially since someone said they are harder to keep going perpetually than females.
So if the seeds were better a year ago, maybe older discontinued strains like Maverick, butch cassidy, and boomtown are worth consideration.
I doubt anything is discontinued.its more marketing bullshit to sell seeds that are less popular.like a going out of business sale except they never actually go out of business.as far as we know they could be seeds swept up from the floor or the ones that all fall out during handling.
I mean when the fuk has anyone ever popped a pack that all looked similar.
Hes admitted to losing moms so it could be the case with the male.maybe started flowering under 18 6 and the ol chap panicked.after multiple lies no one will ever know.
I just know the plants I'm seeing today are not the same as the ones in the beginning.
 

Chunky Stool

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I doubt anything is discontinued.its more marketing bullshit to sell seeds that are less popular.like a going out of business sale except they never actually go out of business.as far as we know they could be seeds swept up from the floor or the ones that all fall out during handling.
I mean when the fuk has anyone ever popped a pack that all looked similar.
Hes admitted to losing moms so it could be the case with the male.maybe started flowering under 18 6 and the ol chap panicked.after multiple lies no one will ever know.
I just know the plants I'm seeing today are not the same as the ones in the beginning.
I was disappointed to hear that copper chem wasn't all it was supposed to be as a "flasghip strain". Sounds like CnC has the best genetics right now.
I helped a buddy repot some CnC from solos today and one of them was already stinky AF. I was surprised! Never had one that load so young.
 

Greenthumbs256

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ya know I have always been one of the first the defend gu and his gear, even as of recently! but I honestly can't do it it any more! getting married or not you can't put your business and customers on the back burner and refuse to tell us shit! and between that and all fake pic and pollen chucking shit, who knows what tf is really going on! bc the dam guy won't be honest and straight up! he did say sorry about the pics, but I mean wtf about everything else!

ppl hate there always going to, and ppl make shit up all the time, but God dam this can't all be made up, there just isn't any way possible! a year ago everyone was loving his strains and now it's obviously not the same strains! this is truly a sad day! and this really fucking sucks bc now I got to find a new monthly photo contest, like shit I'm close to winning first this month and I don't even know what pack to choose bc of all this shit going on! I think it's time to just pack up and move!
 

Michael Huntherz

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i kinda feel like alot of greenpoints seeds look similar to each other when flowered. no matter what strain. anyone else feel the same?
Um, not remotely. How many have you flowered?
I have only run four females, all were very distinct. And yet, if they all have the same sire then a lot of them would be similar, right? I mean, that’s pretty basic genetics.
 

hantastic1

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Um, not remotely. How many have you flowered?
I have only run four females, all were very distinct. And yet, if they all have the same sire then a lot of them would be similar, right? I mean, that’s pretty basic genetics.
i've popped 4 packs of gps and from looking at other peoples different gp strains,and comparing them to eachother and what i grew, i see alot of similar looking buds.
and so far 0 keepers found...
 

Chunky Stool

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Um, not remotely. How many have you flowered?
I have only run four females, all were very distinct. And yet, if they all have the same sire then a lot of them would be similar, right? I mean, that’s pretty basic genetics.
I've noticed a lot of variation in greenpoint gear, which isn't really expected for F1s when the parents are stable.
Everything from size to finish times, and most of the Texas butter plants weren't very frosty.
For comparison, the five 'half & half' by cannaventure were all very similar.
 

Bakersfield

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Greenpoint has always been shady. :p

I don't know Gu or agree with his business Shenanigans, but I've grown many packs of Greenpoint seeds and a couple sucked, a few where mediocre, but some were epic.

I've grown a lot of different breeders seed packs and Greenpoint delivers fire equal to anything I've grown and I've grown some great weed.
So to say his strains suck is a flat out lie.

I have no sympathy for the bullshit that's been happening since the S1's though and I'll still grow out and use many of the Greenpoint strains I have in the vault, but I will probably never buy from him again.
 

Heisengrow

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Lol I popped 12 gorilla glue 4 X wifi 43 and they all look very close.No mutated crap or funky shit.only 1 looks different than the rest.and these are 2 weeks old from sprout.
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i dont care what anyone says gu has alot of fukery going on in his lab.that stardawg is history.whatever hes using now is putting out dookie.someone asked if my lights were to strong causing the mutations lol.ive ran 2 seperate grows under it that have been flawless.
These plants are vigorous as shit and smell stronger than anything I've ran from gp.not to mention under a usb scope #5 is covered in trichs.more than my wed cake or gg4 moms in veg.
Dude needs to revamp his setup,get some hydro skills and start testing some plants with some new daddys.them journals he posted on ic looked like some Mickey mouse shit.
Than again I dont know if he cares.he can throw a name out there and no one calls him out.people assume hes holding the cut when all hes really holding is some bullshit
 
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