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genuity

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I'm one of the ones that got there order siezed and I'm still waiting for a response from them. Last time I had any contact with them was Ally when I first let them know about the order getting nicked. That was well over 2 weeks ago and I've had nothing but silence on there end. Gotta say I'm really disappointed in GP. I always heard how great their customer service was, but I'm definitely not seeing it.
No communication

Sounds like this one seed bank..
 

whytewidow

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For me it was the bulkiness. What do you put them in when carrying them out of where your growing? The lights I bought are like 30 inches x 30 inches~. I can stack six in a box and takem out on a hand cart.

DIY is definitely a nice money saver, but it just seemed to be in short way too bulky and no warranty or anything. For me that was far more important in the decision making process than anything else. Both are have really good benefits and clearly both can grow amazing pot, but for most of the world where it is still illegal I just think the other seems the way to go.
I can break down and store away my tent light and all under my bed in less than hour. My light fits inside the my tent. I jus pull plants. Lower light to floor. Pull four legs. Top of tent sets down inside itself. And every part I have had a 5 year warranty.
 

Jp.the.pope

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This is true for the most part aside from custom chips the company builds themselves and have designed from the ground up, warranty, and the way light is angled covers perfectly, but have fun breaking down your 10k grow in less than 24 hours with DIY....Hell, even a house grow would be ridiculous how can you pack that shit up and move it on your own in a timely manner out of a house? This is why we buy what we buy not to mention time is money. Takes me 22 hours to break down and get the fuck out and I would recommend everyone after they set up a room to put it to a stop watch and break it down so reality can set in.
I can take my 3k down in about an hour. The DIY 30 gallon SIPs are a whole other monster.

Lights no problem. SIPs are a huge problem, especially with the 10 gal res andv air stones.
 

thenotsoesoteric

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How about he never intended to take a loss because he knew what he was doing right from the start

A deliberate act to rip ppl off for $ and not care about morals,reputations or in general just being a gd human.

In aust we would have buried him up to his neck next to a giant ant hill...in Africa he woulda been stoned to death.
Already he's prob thinking he's got away with it....
Here in the US we make people like him the fucking President of our country, lol.
 

Tangerine_

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Just take a cut, and throw it in a solo. Itll will root and reveg faster. I only take cuts from flower. And I have revegged about 25 plants. The smaller the plant. The faster. I revegged a giant skunk #1 last year. Both ways. I left pieces on the original plant and also took two cuttings. Put em soil with willow water. Both in the solos rooted revegged and started growing 2.5 weeks before the original potted one did.
There should be enough branching for me to try that both ways.
Thanks for the tips
 

Blake_n_Concentrates

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I use them already lol. They don't have 100% reliability. I've had the previously mentioned scenario happen to me. Luckily I only fill about 15 gallons at a time, coulda been a real mess.
Oh man, when I first started using them, I can't tell you how much of a pain in the ass they were for me. I always wanted to adjust them and run them as close to wet as possible. I would get run outs all the time, come home to the tent more like a fucking swimming pool. It even seeped through to carpet once, before I smartened up and stopped trusting those foil "trays" that come with the tent.

BUT, ever since I started setting them per recommendation, stopped tinkering with them so much, and started running them on the slightly dryer (still moist top to bottom) than wet side, I have had zero run out issues. I have adjusted the blumats open a 1/2 arrow twice as I've gotten further into flower to account for the increased root mass, and I have still had no issue this run. I also added a tray to that can support my res size (20gals) as a backup but hope not to have to use it.
 

thenotsoesoteric

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Look at all the different diy models. They are all large like 4x4 4x8 so that they can get the optimal footprint because the cobs aren't angled and LED light is incredibly direct. What do you put them in so they can't be seen when carrying them out to a uhaul or whatever you are using to get out of a bad situation? I just couldn't imagine moving a 10-20k watt grow and it being manageable with the DIY. I went with plug n play knowing it would cost more but there were other benefits as well.

There is a guy that builds awesome ones on IC I almost went with, but I just couldn't figure out a way to get them around easy by my self. I have had to break down quickly before so everything I bring in my grow room I really think through as far as being easily mobile AND concealable. IE my reservoirs are no longer 50 gallon drums. I use 50 gallon collapsible plastic reservoirs that you can fit 4 of in a large rubber maid. I try to make sure everything can fit in a rubbermaid or an easy to move self built box that can fit on a moving hand cart. If I can't easily lift, move, or takes too long to break down it doesn't become part of my grow.

I know those aren't issues for everyone but DIY just wasn't for me. All the lights fit a purpose just like all grow methods are worthy and have a purpose whether its hydro, soil, or coco.
That's the thing with diy, you can design and build it any way you want. So you can build it to come apart super easy with wing nuts and most of the electronics can be plug and play. So in theory you could build a setup like Heisen's that breaks down in manageable 2' x 2' sections, load them in a box and no neighbors would be the wiser.

The only benefit top premade is you don't have to build and you get a guaranty.
 

sato108

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That's the thing with diy, you can design and build it any way you want. So you can build it to come apart super easy with wing nuts and most of the electronics can be plug and play. So in theory you could build a setup like Heisen's that breaks down in manageable 2' x 2' sections, load them in a box and no neighbors would be the wiser.

The only benefit top premade is you don't have to build and you get a guaranty.
I love wago connectors for this reason. Super easy to swap out drivers, lights, etc.
 

Goats22

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i was gonna say the same thing as heisen. the thing that COBs have over QBs was coverage in corners because of all the diodes being clumped in a small area vs having a COB every X inches to evenly light your entire canopy. that fixture, while it seems very well made and has a lot of bells and whistles, is taking away COB's only advantage over QBs by clumping them all up like a QB.

can get a QB that is more efficient with a warranty that has been pre-built, tested and has a potentiometer for ~$750 from growerslights. i think i would struggle to justify $500 more for any improvement that light would provide, if any at all.

also, they are about the same size as your light, so not sure what you mean about them not breaking down quickly or easily. you literally unplug it and undo the ratchet straps and it's ready to go.
 

thenotsoesoteric

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Besides the various scandals,tricks and scallywags this thread has a wealth of good info from alot of really good growers.I cannot tolerate some.of the other threads and sections on this forum for more than 3 minutes a a time but this thread is priceless
I like the action here but I like chuckers paradise because it's probably the chillest thread I've found on RIU. I credit a lot of that to genuity. He keeps the vibes in a chill place and I don't think we see much of the Riu drama. Big shout out to G and chucker's crew, lol
 

40AmpstoFreedom

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I like the action here but I like chuckers paradise because it's probably the chillest thread I've found on RIU. I credit a lot of that to genuity. He keeps the vibes in a chill place and I don't think we see much of the Riu drama. Big shout out to G and chucker's crew, lol
Bodhi thread is definitely most chill. Sow good vibes reap good vibes. I do like that thread though.
 

sourgummy

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Cookies n chem starfighter dom smell. Has some other cookie smell in there maybe. Very nice berry/fruity smell. Not straight berries but some more complication in there with the smell. But nearly all fruit dominant smell so far. 35267CA8-2C43-4C18-BC9A-21BC993294AC.jpegSome cookies n chem lowers on another starfighter dom smeller. This one is only berries/fruit. I have 2 more starfighter leaners. Got a pH meter near week 2 to 3 of flower. PH was way high and once I corrected it, started seeing sideways growth on the buds and purple petioles going away. Smelling more too of course. Very stoked on this quality to keep coming.
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Jelly Pie- maintained the strawberry jelly smell the whole way and still has it. Just A little more dry and cure to come. Unfortunately this one got flushed a week early, as it was really pushing sideways growth on the buds the last 2-3 weeks. Went full 10 weeks. Also this one got a full run of pH being off/not ideal.
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Pure Raspberry Kush x The Deputy seeds visible after 1 week pollination
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Pure Raspberry Kush x Cookies n Chem seeds visible too.
 
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