Greenpoint seeds!!

mistermagoo

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Looking good, magoo! What's she smell like?
I've got one on deck. Looks like I should prep for about 80 days.
Smell is mostly chem dom. I just cut down a hibernate, two jelly pies and a pioneer kush, they all relatively have the same chem dank smell, with slight accents of the moms , in the pioneer kush the bubba kush smell really shines through, this blizzard was sent into flower at around 17 inches , maxes out at around 43 inches now, fat colas
 

growslut

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Been a rough week in the garden. Discovered white powder mildew on 2 Cosmonaut's 5 weeks into flower. So I threw those in the garbage, hoping that was the end of it. But then 2 days later I noticed wpm spots appearing on a Chelumbian plant and also on Cannaventure's Pure Animal. To save the crop, I decided to neem everything. So I did. I've got plants from week 1 to week 6 in flower. They took the neem better than expected. 1/4 turned white hairs fried red, about 1/2 show minimal burning, and the other 1/4 looks unfazed. Fingers crossed that this round of neem will keep the plants healthy until harvest

This is the first time I have ever had WPM in the tent, although I have had it outside in the yard most years. Strange thing is, I have only noticed one leaf on one Armenian Cucumber with the WPM this season, so I'm puzzled why it would be showing up inside with a more controlled environment.

I live in LA and do not own a dehuey. Didn't think I needed one here. And the humidity never got above the mid 60's in the tent and temps stayed above 60 so I'm a bit puzzled.
 

Chunky Stool

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I stopped using rockwool a while ago.hate using that sht.i just checked a while ago and one of the wed c has roots now so yeah they just took longer than the others
What's wrong with rock wool?
I prefer rapid rooters, but rockwool works well if you set the ph correctly.
 

Chunky Stool

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Been a rough week in the garden. Discovered white powder mildew on 2 Cosmonaut's 5 weeks into flower. So I threw those in the garbage, hoping that was the end of it. But then 2 days later I noticed wpm spots appearing on a Chelumbian plant and also on Cannaventure's Pure Animal. To save the crop, I decided to neem everything. So I did. I've got plants from week 1 to week 6 in flower. They took the neem better than expected. 1/4 turned white hairs fried red, about 1/2 show minimal burning, and the other 1/4 looks unfazed. Fingers crossed that this round of neem will keep the plants healthy until harvest

This is the first time I have ever had WPM in the tent, although I have had it outside in the yard most years. Strange thing is, I have only noticed one leaf on one Armenian Cucumber with the WPM this season, so I'm puzzled why it would be showing up inside with a more controlled environment.

I live in LA and do not own a dehuey. Didn't think I needed one here. And the humidity never got above the mid 60's in the tent and temps stayed above 60 so I'm a bit puzzled.
If RH is in the 60s you've gotta have good airflow.
You didn't need to chop those plants that had PM. I simply remove the affected area and carry on.
Also, neem is not your best option. Potassium bicarb is probably your best bet while they are flowering.
I am also a firm believer in silica. It definitely makes plants more resistant to pests & mold/mildew.
Just keep an eye on PH when using liquid silica because it will definitely go up. I like to use it with liquid fish fertilizer which has notoriously low ph because it is stabilized with sulfuric acid.
 

Heisengrow

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What's wrong with rock wool?
I prefer rapid rooters, but rockwool works well if you set the ph correctly.
Why ph it when the stems dont have roots,ph only matters imo if you have roots to absorb anything.once they get roots it all happens so fast I usually put in dwc within 2 days in ph water.
I dont.like rockwool cause it holds to much water.when I put the cubes on top of pebbles it gets super saturated and the plants seem to take longer to get going starving for air with them soaked ass cubes.
Plus seems i have to babysit rockwool to keep it the perfect moisture level to root.to dry and they wont root,to wet and the stems rot.ive had 100 percent success with root riots,coco cups,peat pelets,aero is good to I just dont like rock wool.

I know guys that use rockwool with great success but I personally dont like using it.
 

Chunky Stool

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Why ph it when the stems dont have roots,ph only matters imo if you have roots to absorb anything.once they get roots it all happens so fast I usually put in dwc within 2 days in ph water.
I dont.like rockwool cause it holds to much water.when I put the cubes on top of pebbles it gets super saturated and the plants seem to take longer to get going starving for air with them soaked ass cubes.
Plus seems i have to babysit rockwool to keep it the perfect moisture level to root.to dry and they wont root,to wet and the stems rot.ive had 100 percent success with root riots,coco cups,peat pelets,aero is good to I just dont like rock wool.

I know guys that use rockwool with great success but I personally dont like using it.
Rockwool worked better when I set the ph according to directions. Not sure off the top of my head what they recommended because i usually use peat plugs (rapid rooter/root riot). I think it's naturally a bit high which plants don't like. Seedlings seem to need an acidiic medium more than mature plants.
 

Heisengrow

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Rockwool worked better when I set the ph according to directions. Not sure off the top of my head what they recommended because i usually use peat plugs (rapid rooter/root riot). I think it's naturally a bit high which plants don't like. Seedlings seem to need an acidiic medium more than mature plants.
Yeah I dont ph for cuttings any more.i found it didnt make a difference for me.once the roots are out they right into the ph water solution and start growing right away.cuttings are taking all there moisture from the environment in the humidty dome.i use to ph the aero cloner but found just straight tap water and hydroguard works.pool shock worked better.i think the beneficial bacteria might inhibit the root growth but not sure.
 

Chunky Stool

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Yeah I dont ph for cuttings any more.i found it didnt make a difference for me.once the roots are out they right into the ph water solution and start growing right away.cuttings are taking all there moisture from the environment in the humidty dome.i use to ph the aero cloner but found just straight tap water and hydroguard works.pool shock worked better.i think the beneficial bacteria might inhibit the root growth but not sure.
I bought a giant clone machine off craigslist a couple of years ago and never used it. :dunce:
It does 60 at a time, which is way more than I need. The ol dome usually works well but I've had a few failures. It's usually all or nothing.
I've got an air pump for making compost tea and thought about making a smaller clone machine. What do you like?
 

sourgummy

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I bought a giant clone machine off craigslist a couple of years ago and never used it. :dunce:
It does 60 at a time, which is way more than I need. The ol dome usually works well but I've had a few failures. It's usually all or nothing.
I've got an air pump for making compost tea and thought about making a smaller clone machine. What do you like?
I use an aerocloner and never take more than 1 clone. Haven't lost one for over 6months,-since I more dialed it in. It really is too easy.
 

growslut

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If RH is in the 60s you've gotta have good airflow.
You didn't need to chop those plants that had PM. I simply remove the affected area and carry on.
Also, neem is not your best option. Potassium bicarb is probably your best bet while they are flowering.
I am also a firm believer in silica. It definitely makes plants more resistant to pests & mold/mildew.
Just keep an eye on PH when using liquid silica because it will definitely go up. I like to use it with liquid fish fertilizer which has notoriously low ph because it is stabilized with sulfuric acid.
Thanks Chunky. I do use silica and thought the airflow was good, but maybe I need to look at that. Will also look into Potassium Bicarb

But when you get it you just pull the affected leaves and carry on? Does it spread when you do this? I sprayed the entire plants but I've only seen the mildew on leaves. Does WPM grow on bud sites or just leaves?
 

Heisengrow

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I bought a giant clone machine off craigslist a couple of years ago and never used it. :dunce:
It does 60 at a time, which is way more than I need. The ol dome usually works well but I've had a few failures. It's usually all or nothing.
I've got an air pump for making compost tea and thought about making a smaller clone machine. What do you like?
I have a 16 site aerocloner with mag drive pump,manifold and 4 misters.people say to put light over them but I found to be opposite.i use very low light cause they dont have root structure to handle the light,will end up yellowing and showing definciency after a week.just regular hydroguard.
I like the root roots in a humidity dome the best out of all them.80 degrees and if the floor is cold they wont root.i put the tray on top of bubble insulation and water under that to add humidity.
 

Chunky Stool

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Thanks Chunky. I do use silica and thought the airflow was good, but maybe I need to look at that. Will also look into Potassium Bicarb

But when you get it you just pull the affected leaves and carry on? Does it spread when you do this? I sprayed the entire plants but I've only seen the mildew on leaves. Does WPM grow on bud sites or just leaves?
Mostly leaves -- and buds have sugar leaves, so... :roll:
PM can't spread if you kill it with potassium bicarb. :twisted:
Pretty sure it's really the higher ph that kills mold because I've heard diluted skim milk also works. I tried it once outdoors but didn't dilute it enough and it left a residue on the leaves that was harmless but still unattractive.
If it really is ph that kills PM, you could use liquid silica as a foliar. But definitely follow directions because too much potassium can have adverse effects. And never mix things like neem & liquid silica.

Some growers say it's better to just pull the plant because PM always comes back. They say it's "systemic".
It a way they are right, but it's a play on words. PM will come back because there's a problem in the "system", not because the plant is permanently infected.
Fix the system (environment) and you won't see it again. (It's a different ballgame outdoors 8))
Weaker plants are more vulnerable.
Some growers fade the shit out of their plants at the end in an effort to minimize nitrogen in the finished product, but what it really does is weaken them and make plants work harder to move N from lower growth to the buds. (Nitrogen is mobile.)

When I grew in a tent I used a giant cut-off kiddie pool as a tray (about 4" deep) and put little fans on the floor in all four corners that stayed on 24/7.
Each fan was pointed at the next fan so the airflow was circular. This helps a lot.
I think most growers focus on the canopy but keeping good flow around the base is also important.
 

yimbeans

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i love the oxyclean machines, 45$. i use 2 cheap wallmart led light for plants. clonex solution, no gel. massive roots foot long in 7 days usually, 14 days max, on a finicky strain... 90% success, few corner spots suck, wont root well...
 
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