Grape Ice 2x4 ebb and flow 600 watt 1st hydroponic grow

Ok so here it goes this is my first attempt at a hydroponics grow but not my first time growing i have done several crops in soil i had gotten some ok results. I would probly still be in dirt but i moved a few months ago into an apartment putting a stop to that op real quick due to the lack of space. With space being an issue i had to find a new method if i wanted to keep growing after some research i stumbled on to riu and have been lurking through the threads on different grow ops etc long story short i came across an al b fuct thread and fell in love with ebb and flow and how simple of a set up it is. After a few months of reading and hopefully aquiring knowledge i have finally set up my ebb and flow system..

Sun Hut Lrg
2x4 ebb and flow tray
2x4 grand stand table
40 gallon resivoir
1 submersable pump
6 inch can fan
can fan filter can 33
fox farm grow big, big bloom, tiger bloom
humboldt co gravity, purple maxx, bush master


So come and take this wonderfull journey with me as i embark upon my first hydroponic grow all comments tips info input is welcome so sit back relax and pack a bowl cause here we go

best of luck and im with u all the way!

Alright so yesterday on 01/03/10 i went to one of my local collectives n made a donation for 10 grape ice clones the genetics are ( dj shorts grape krush x ice ) according to one of the volunteers there the grape ice produces a strong narcotic euphoria that is great for pain as well as insomnia . Ok so ne ways i got home with my plants and placed 6 of 10 in 6 inch net pot with canna coco and the other 4 of the 10 were placed in 6 inch nets pots with hydroton ( i want to see if there will be a difference in growth taste final product etc between the two different mediums) i also have a coco mat too that all 10 plants are sitting on and they are currently under my 600 watt hps i plan on veging them for about two to 3 weeks or so before i start flowing

11/4/2010 update day 1

room temp 76.4 f
res temp 67.2 f
5.8 ph
1350 ppm
lights 18/6 6:30 am - 12:00 am

i attached a pic from the collectives website of the final product of the grape ice i will be adding picsof my room and the plants later tonight as well as a lil surprise ne ways im off to work again all comments imput advice is more then welcome im going to need all the help i can get

stiffla said:

best of luck and im with u all the way!

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thank you it shall be a good one ( fingers crossed )

ok sorry it took so longto add these pics truth be told i could not upload the pics from the camera in my defense though its my girl friends camera i have no idea how to work no did i have all the stuff i need to upload the pics ne ways finally got it done these pics are from 11/04/10 the second day of haveing clones the look miserable we not really watered the first couple of days that i got them du to my notsetting up my timer correctly that is fixed now also took some pics of my set up n of my guard dog chewbaca will be giving a full update in lil here too
again any input and comments are great

Looks NICE!

But why would you us netpots in E/F?

damn that font is hard to read.lol...ive seen those net pots work really well in E&F..i

personly like to see my roots during the whole grow...yes I KNOW I KNOW that the

roots shouldnt get light. but i never have had a prob with it..just a lil of alge but

your going to get that N E-ways..just add hydrozyme to your rez to keep the roots

clean....also what size is your tent? ( in feet).....meangreen.

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to be honest i really dont have a specific reason y i choose that i know other people use different kinds of pots i thought maybe it give more water movement and also allow the roots to get into the coco mat below easier i know not really a great ans but im still learning i was also wondering have you tried using different types in your system what would the pros and cons be between different styles of pots might i ask and thanks for the positive feedback gypse i have seen some of your results and have browsed your threads very informative

GypsyBush said:

Looks NICE!

But why would you us netpots in E/F?

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Took the words right outta my mouth.

Get those into some real pots ASAP or you're gonna have algae covering every inch of the outside of them.

MEANGREEN69 said:

damn that font is hard to read.lol...ive seen those net pots work really well in E&F..i

personly like to see my roots during the whole grow...yes I KNOW I KNOW that the

roots shouldnt get light. but i never have had a prob with it..just a lil of alge but

your going to get that N E-ways..just add hydrozyme to your rez to keep the roots

clean....also what size is your tent? ( in feet).....meangreen.

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yea your right about the roots and light i hope if all goes right the grow more towards the bottom and into the coco mat and then grow out from there the they tent itself is 54'' x 35 1/2'' so 4 1/2' x almost 3' they say 2x4 bc it fits most 2x4 trays i like the sun huts alot i used other ones prior and the sun hut is just build better as well as is more reflective and comes with lots of 6 inch vents that are easy to sealoff when not in use

Bob Smith said:

Took the words right outta my mouth.

Get those into some real pots ASAP or you're gonna have algae covering every inch of the outside of them.

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you think so will it really be bad or do you think i can go 1 grow with them before i switch them over i fell dumb the guy at the hydro shop said they were good to use i should have looked into the types of pots to use more never thought about algae beiging a problem oh well live and learn teach me more i am ready to learn

kali love said:

you think so will it really be bad or do you think i can go 1 grow with them before i switch them over i fell dumb the guy at the hydro shop said they were good to use i should have looked into the types of pots to use more never thought about algae beiging a problem oh well live and learn teach me more i am ready to learn

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Yes, it really will be bad.

You're going to have to use H2O2 by the gallon to keep that algae from totally fucking up your reservoir and causing drastic pH swings (wet hydroton + full exposure to light = bad news).

So, you could buy $100 worth of 35% H2O2 to use, or you could buy cheapo plastic pots for $.50 a piece will which remedy the situation.

Your call

Bob Smith said:

Yes, it really will be bad.

You're going to have to use H2O2 by the gallon to keep that algae from totally fucking up your reservoir and causing drastic pH swings (wet hydroton + full exposure to light = bad news).

So, you could buy $100 worth of 35% H2O2 to use, or you could buy cheapo plastic pots for $.50 a piece will which remedy the situation.

Your call

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ok i have a few questions one what about the ones that have coco in the pots can they get algae too or is it just the ones in hydroton and two what i got some of the hemp basket things and used those r those ne good or is it better with the solid pots thanks for your response i am going to be looking to go to the hydro store here in the next few hrs when the open so i can start transplanting

kali love said:

ok i have a few questions one what about the ones that have coco in the pots can they get algae too or is it just the ones in hydroton and two what i got some of the hemp basket things and used those r those ne good or is it better with the solid pots thanks for your response i am going to be looking to go to the hydro store here in the next few hrs when the open so i can start transplanting

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I've never used coco, but virtually any medium which stays wet and is fully exposed to light will have algae problems to one degree or another.

And you can get cheap plastic pots from Home Depot or Lowes, you don't need to overpay at the hydro store for those.

And I don't know what the "hemp basket things" that you're referring to are.

Ok so inall reality i have been rather neglectful of my plants as of late the first fw days i didnt ave my timer setup and working correctly so they were not getting watered enough i gotthat resolved as well i flood every 4 hrs when lights are on for 15 mins so it 5 floods a day right now and also in neglecting my plants my oh climbed alot and was at 6.7 for the first few days i adjusted it to 6.0 on 11/05 and on 11/06 i adjusted it to 5.8 andthat is currently where it is now the plants are now going great with lots of new growth i feel with input from the othersthat i must ditch the net pots a gotasolid pot in order t preven algae oh and also i transplanted two of the four clones from hydrotone to coco so i have8 in coco and 2 in hydroton will be putting all in coco though once i switch potsi noticethe hydroton and coco drain a lil differently and wanna keep everything uniform t make it easier and to hopefully make for better end results here are some pics from 11/08/2010 day 5 of veg


ph 5.8
temp 75.20f
water temp 69.00f
ppm 1400

Bob Smith said:

I've never used coco, but virtually any medium which stays wet and is fully exposed to light will have algae problems to one degree or another.

And you can get cheap plastic pots from Home Depot or Lowes, you don't need to overpay at the hydro store for those.

And I don't know what the "hemp basket things" that you're referring to are.

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that is a good point you make in regards to the medium im gonna look into ne pots today im not sure what they are called if it is a hempy cket or hempybasket not sure theexact name i aso chk outthe video of your set up pretty nice set up there you got goingwith the co2and stuff again thanks for yor input and advice very much needed

how far away is your light and are u watering ever day? 5 /15 min floods seems alot for young girls the coco holds alot of moist and so do the clay pebbles, ive only flooded my girls once a day or twice if needed, helps the roots grow rapid and find the water... what is ur RH day and night, also ur temps night time..

stiffla said:

how far away is your light and are u watering ever day? 5 /15 min floods seems alot for young girls the coco holds alot of moist and so do the clay pebbles, ive only flooded my girls once a day or twice if needed, helps the roots grow rapid and find the water... what is ur RH day and night, also ur temps night time..

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my light is approx 18-22 inches away from the cannopy at this time yes its 5 15 min flood every day when the lights are on i am thinking about backing it dow to about 3 floods a day for 20 mins i dunno no idea would like some input on this how many times to flood and for how long to flood my temps in the day stay right around 77 it has been up to 81 but was quickly changed in the night they stay at 77 when the light is on but get to about 69 or so when it s off i live in socal so right now is perfect dont really have to use my ac to cool things down i have a fan in my window cooling the room thats y my temps the way they are right now as far as rh i dont have a device to measue that but id say i keep it rather low probly round 30% or soi try to keep my res under 70 as well it stays there for the most part which is nice cause i have not invested into a chiller let me know what you think or where i should make some adjustments

kali love said:

you think so will it really be bad or do you think i can go 1 grow with them before i switch them over i fell dumb the guy at the hydro shop said they were good to use i should have looked into the types of pots to use more never thought about algae beiging a problem oh well live and learn teach me more i am ready to learn

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Water and Light = LIFE...

One way you can "resolve" the issue for this run would be to cover the pots with plastic... keeping the light from going in.. something like this....

the only thing u should look into adjusting is the flood and drain, i'd try flooding once or twice a day 15 mins / 18 hour cycle for about two weeks then flood three times from there, and should keep the rh around 60%. its always better to keep them slightly dryer then soaking the roots so they grow more looking to find the water insted of over watering them.. they look well so far but ive noticed yellowing on the leafs! over water or nutes a little high..