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SSHZ

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The package recommends every watering.............but I'm not so sure that's necessary. I run it until I run out, late in flowering.
 

SSHZ

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I called and talked to them and he told me that 1 teaspoon is around 900 ppm.
So it doesnt take much.
I might star with less and work my way up.
The guy also said no need to flush nearly as often as with the ferts I use now.
Ill feed em tomorrow

That's potent stuff if you can get to 900 ppm with just a teaspoon........... at those rates, it may not be a bad buy!
 

budbro18

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Thanks again! This will probably help me because i use airpots and they cause alot of dried/dead roots around the outside to limit plant circling.

Ever fucked with air pots? either sshz or bassman?
 

bassman999

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Thanks again! This will probably help me because i use airpots and they cause alot of dried/dead roots around the outside to limit plant circling.

Ever fucked with air pots? either sshz or bassman?
I havent used them, and have def thought about it.
I have used the cloth pots (rootpots) or something.
I just noticed a mess with water coming out the sides...and they dry out fast.
 

budbro18

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i dig it. Ive only used the cloth ones a few times and didnt like them much.

But air pots have always been my shit! Ive kept a plant perfectly happy in a 3L air pot for over 6 months and it didnt get stunted. haha.

You kinda gotta pack the dirt in a little more than you usually would with a standard pot but i dont have any problems with water coming out the sides.

Maybe after the first soaking of fresh promix a little will but once it all gets wet youre good haha

They do dry out fast though!

I water every other day and sometimes every day when the humidity is extra low like in winter.


Thats one of the reasons i recommend them to new growers because with them its hard to over water when you have a pot full of holes.

And the bottoms really help drainage. They have holes in them too and are raised about an inch off the ground.

Some nice root masses accumulate there and sometimes i cant pull of the bottom piece of the pot so i have to transplant it with it.
 

SSHZ

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I use the old fashion plastic pots.......but have read many great things about the air pots. If I could afford 40+ of them, I'd be using them for sure. If you use some water crystals in your mix, that will help the medium retain some moisture longer, and you won't have to water as often.
 

budbro18

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i dont mind watering that often. it kinda helps me dial in my nutes more often because i dont have to wait 3-4 days to give them another dose if they show def or over fert.

I love what they do in SOG type grows. even when i just had 8 of my grape gods in 3L pots they gave me a zip and a half each with a 600

If you ever have the money definitely invest in them.

what size pots do you use from begininning to end?

I start with the 3L then transplant to 2-3 gallon ones a week or 2 before flower.
 

SSHZ

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I grew in 5 gallon pots forever but last year switched to 4 gallon to save on purchasing medium mainly. The root balls never filled out the pot so I went down to the smaller size w/o any issues or problems. I start them in the same pots and they stay in there their whole lives. I could probably even get away with 3 gallon pots but I find 1) I water way too much w/ small pots, 2) pots can tip over on the big plants when they dry out, and 3) roots are happier and healthier when I'm done (in the bigger pots).
 

SSHZ

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Day 17.....I guess on average they stretched between 8-10 inches. Not to much variety between pheno's, if any at all- very uniform grow. I suspect they are done elongating now and will start massive calyx production shortly. I gave them one more solid N dose yesterday......I'll be running straight bloom ferts from now on.
 

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budbro18

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Hell yeah lookin good!

NEXT GEN did there part on this strain. They said it took almost 10 years to lock it into where they wanted.

Cant wait to see you harvest.
 

SSHZ

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Thanks. I'm having a hard time seeing a great yield coming out of the room.....just not enough bud sites. I probably made a mistake not topping, I guess we'll see.
 

budbro18

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Yeah i was always cautious to top and never really did more than tie down a few branches. but i wish i would have.

they grow so christmas tree like it would really help

The max i got off of 1 under a 600 was just under a qp so youre due a solid 4-5 LB minimum.
 

bassman999

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Day 17.....I guess on average they stretched between 8-10 inches. Not to much variety between pheno's, if any at all- very uniform grow. I suspect they are done elongating now and will start massive calyx production shortly. I gave them one more solid N dose yesterday......I'll be running straight bloom ferts from now on.
I started my bloom ferts y-day
 

SSHZ

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I have never gotten more then 4 lbs out of the room (Mr. Nice Medicine Man) and I average around 55 oz normally with Green Poison, which is a known heavy yielder. There is NO WAY I'm getting 4 lbs..........3 to 3 1/2 tops. They'll have to fill out like no other strain I've ever had before to beat my numbers.

I don't like to go full bloom fertilizer to early..........I want to keep them green deep into flowering and keep them super healthy. I actually hit them with Age Old Organics (12-6-6) yesterday with some additional bloom ferts. Age Old is great for greening up plants fast, I always keep it available.

I started looking at strains for my next crop and keep checking out Seedism......I would have gone with their BLZ Bud but the breeder said in an interview figure 9-11 weeks for it, although the web site says 8-9 weeks. I'm looking at their "Elvis", "Apple Jack" or "Killa Watt"..........anyone want to recommend something else for me to consider: no more than 9 weeks flowering, not overly tall, heavy yielder............
 

bassman999

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I have never gotten more then 4 lbs out of the room (Mr. Nice Medicine Man) and I average around 55 oz normally with Green Poison, which is a known heavy yielder. There is NO WAY I'm getting 4 lbs..........3 to 3 1/2 tops. They'll have to fill out like no other strain I've ever had before to beat my numbers.

I don't like to go full bloom fertilizer to early..........I want to keep them green deep into flowering and keep them super healthy. I actually hit them with Age Old Organics (12-6-6) yesterday with some additional bloom ferts. Age Old is great for greening up plants fast, I always keep it available.

I started looking at strains for my next crop and keep checking out Seedism......I would have gone with their BLZ Bud but the breeder said in an interview figure 9-11 weeks for it, although the web site says 8-9 weeks. I'm looking at their "Elvis", "Apple Jack" or "Killa Watt"..........anyone want to recommend something else for me to consider: no more than 9 weeks flowering, not overly tall, heavy yielder............
My White Rhino was a great yileder, supposed to be same as med man. Heavy indica, pretty tasty too.
How many lights do you run?
 

SSHZ

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Yes, Medicine Man = White Rhino. Whose do u run......I need it feminized (or I would have done Mr. Nice again).

I run around 2000-2200 watts out of the room. I usually get around 1.75 lbs. per light if I choose the right strain. Sometime a bit more, sometimes a bit less.

I run another room too:

Pic 2 is Mr. Nice "Ortega" and Pic 1 is Dinafem "Blue Hash".
 

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bassman999

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Yes, Medicine Man = White Rhino. Whose do u run......I need it feminized (or I would have done Mr. Nice again).

I run around 2000-2200 watts out of the room. I usually get around 1.75 lbs. per light if I choose the right strain. Sometime a bit more, sometimes a bit less.

I run another room too:

Pic 2 is Mr. Nice "Ortega" and Pic 1 is Dinafem "Blue Hash".
I have wanted to try Ortega and or Black Domina as a great indica strain.

The WR I ran was a clone from Oaksterdam
 

SSHZ

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I ran Black Domina years ago and found her a tall, lanky bitch.........strong smoke but yielded VERY POORLY. The many Northern Lights strains I've grown (except some with N.L. #5 in it) yielded poorly too, as I expect the Ortega to do. This was more an experiment......and I've read some incredible smoke reports on it lately.

I would have grown Sannie's "Sugar Punch" this next time but he's out of stock on it and it could be at least 6 weeks more before he gets it back in, which is cutting it too close for me.
 

bassman999

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I ran Black Domina years ago and found her a tall, lanky bitch.........strong smoke but yielded VERY POORLY. The many Northern Lights strains I've grown (except some with N.L. #5 in it) yielded poorly too, as I expect the Ortega to do. This was more an experiment......and I've read some incredible smoke reports on it lately.

I would have grown Sannie's "Sugar Punch" this next time but he's out of stock on it and it could be at least 6 weeks more before he gets it back in, which is cutting it too close for me.
I have heard Black Domina has a single awesome pheno, and several sub-par ones.
I think the Ortega is the key ingredient in the Black Domina...?
 
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