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TroncoChe

Active Member
I did a search to see if this has been talked about on here but didn't come up with anything. What are people's thoughts?


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NoDrama

Well-Known Member
Freedom of Information laws were one of the greatest products of legislation ever.

There is NO budget. Obama hasn't even submitted one.
 

ChesusRice

Well-Known Member
Freedom of Information laws were one of the greatest products of legislation ever.

There is NO budget. Obama hasn't even submitted one.
The New York newspaper, The Journal News, is coming under fire for publishing an interactive database of all residents with handgun permits in Westchester and Rockland counties.
The map ran with a story late last month called “The gun owner next door: What you don’t know about the weapons in your neighborhood,” and notes there are 44,000 hand gun owners in Westchester, Rockland and Putnam counties—about one out of every 23 residents.
 

ChesusRice

Well-Known Member
Freedom of Information laws were one of the greatest products of legislation ever.

There is NO budget. Obama hasn't even submitted one.








Posted at 02:50 PM ET, 04/12/2012
Apr
12, 2012 06:50 PM EDT
TheWashingtonPost
[h=1]Please kill off this budget
myth[/h]
By Jonathan
Bernstein



Federal budgeting is genuinely
complex. The process has a lot of relatively obscure stages: There’s authorization,
appropriations, reconciliation, 302b allocations, and more. There’s something
called a “budget resolution,” which is sort of a budget, but sort of not. As I
said, it’s complicated.

Republicans have built out of
this a completely nonsensical talking point about Democrats operating without
out a budget, and it’s still, no matter how often it’s been debunked, gathering
steam. For example (via TPM), CNBC anchor Maria Bartiromo has
apparently fully bought into it, asking Gene Sperling this week “How tough has
it been operating without a budget? This administration has not had a budget in
3000 days.”

The best part of that question is that 3000 days is roughly eight years.
Alas, that presumably accidental slip of the tongue is about as accurate as the
rest of the question.

The U.S. government, of course,
is absolutely operating under a budget. The law that provided that budget even
conveniently had the word “budget” in its title: it’s the Budget Control Act, passed by Congress and signed by the
president to end the debt limit confrontation last summer.
 

ChesusRice

Well-Known Member
Freedom of Information laws were one of the greatest products of legislation ever.

There is NO budget. Obama hasn't even submitted one.
In his speech, Romney faulted Obama for failing to pass a budget. He was correct that the two times Congress voted on the president’s budget requests, both times they were voted down. But the job of passing a budget resolution is not the president’s. That responsibility falls to Congress, and even then the president doesn’t sign it. As Ellis, our expert, put it: "The president has no role in passing a budget. The president can cajole Congress about passing a budget and advocate for positions and funding levels, but in the end, Congress approves the budget resolution for their own purposes." That’s the difference between this and other claims we’ve rated which blamed Congress for inaction on the budget.
 

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
^^Chesus, if you're gonna C&P a chunk of text (this one is from Politifact), you really should credit it. cn
 

Rob Roy

Well-Known Member
The New York newspaper, The Journal News, is coming under fire for publishing an interactive database of all residents with handgun permits in Westchester and Rockland counties.
The map ran with a story late last month called “The gun owner next door: What you don’t know about the weapons in your neighborhood,” and notes there are 44,000 hand gun owners in Westchester, Rockland and Putnam counties—about one out of every 23 residents.
The problem isn't outing the gun owners. The problem is that a data base held by government even exists.
 

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
The problem isn't outing the gun owners. The problem is that a data base held by government even exists.
They're both problems. Anyone who thinks that if a gov't can accumulate a database and won't hasn't read his Hsün-tzu.
The outing by a newspaper is just as big and as bad. I wonder if that paper will now get sued into extinction. Pssst ... NYC gun licensees ... class action. cn
 

TroncoChe

Active Member
The idea that the government can do anything without our knowledge is ridiculous. The government shouldn't be able to hide anything from the people, no matter what lame brain excuse.
 

ChesusRice

Well-Known Member
They're both problems. Anyone who thinks that if a gov't can accumulate a database and won't hasn't read his Hsün-tzu.
The outing by a newspaper is just as big and as bad. I wonder if that paper will now get sued into extinction. Pssst ... NYC gun licensees ... class action. cn
They arent getting sued

But they are hiring armed gaurds
-fact
 

UncleBuck

Well-Known Member
The idea that the government can do anything without our knowledge is ridiculous. The government shouldn't be able to hide anything from the people, no matter what lame brain excuse.
yeah, the government should probably broadcast sensitive intelligence to every american citizen. that'd work out real well.

:dunce:
 

TroncoChe

Active Member
yeah, the government should probably broadcast sensitive intelligence to every american citizen. that'd work out real well.

:dunce:
Lol I guess when you worship government that would be true. Like when your buddy bush tortures people, lies about it then changes it to another name. Maybe government should hide everything from us since they are so trustworthy?
 

UncleBuck

Well-Known Member
Lol I guess when you worship government that would be true. Like when your buddy bush tortures people, lies about it then changes it to another name. Maybe government should hide everything from us since they are so trustworthy?
there's some space between the absolutes, ya know. a lot of people take up residence there.
 

TroncoChe

Active Member
there's some space between the absolutes, ya know. a lot of people take up residence there.
Not when it comes to government. It isn't like they are telling a fat girl she looks thin in that dress. Mostly they hide stuff that's illegal or wrong.
 
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