Got roots

shawnery · Oct 15, 2018

It's been 9 days since I started my new diy 12 site aero cloner and I just got my first sign of real roots. Just wondering if there's anything I need to change now that roots are beginning to show? I'm also wondering how long I should allow the roots to get before transplanting. They'll be going into an aero/undercurrent hybrid system with no medium inside a 5" net cup with a 5" puck. I'll be building a cage for each plant for support.

My environment so far has been,
Nutrient solution - spring water, silica and pool shock.
Ph 5.7
Ppm .5 scale 167
Water temp 76
Air temp 75
Humidity 75

Any idea what these grey spots on some of the leaves are?

Airwalker16 · Oct 15, 2018

Why does everyone on here post pictures that are so MASSIVELY HUGE?!

shawnery · Oct 16, 2018

DETAIL!

Cold$moke · Oct 16, 2018

Looking good so far.

I find you can go a couple of weeks in the cloner
If you want as its basically just a hydro setup

You could go from clone to bud in the same tote.......

But really if you are putting them in another system I'd let their roots get a little bigger....

Also if the roots get say 10 inches plus and start to tangle up it won't hurt them to trim the root tips....in fact I'm a believer that it's a Good thing...

Can't wait to see your set up as I love to see other peoples designs

shawnery · Oct 16, 2018

I've read good things about root pruning. Its supposed to induce lateral root growth. The only thing that concerns me is once you open a root it allows pathogens easy access to the root system, right? If your system is clean or sterile I guess it doesn't matter but.

shawnery · Oct 16, 2018

What a difference a day makes. Even one of my top cutting is even starting to root.

Its big

Major Blazer · Oct 17, 2018

Keep doing what you're doing bc its looking good. Idk if root pruning helps when going into another aero system but I root prune when I transplant to a medium and it definitely increases recovery time for me

shawnery · Oct 17, 2018

I'm hoping going from lpa to hpa with no medium in either will make shock a thing of the past?

shawnery · Oct 17, 2018

Day 3 of roots, waiting to see it go wrong, here's to hope!

shawnery · Oct 18, 2018

There's something I'm really having a hard time understanding.

I understand all the reasons behind why higher temperatures in your nutrient solution in Hydroponics isn't a good idea but then why do cuttings and clones do so well in that environment?

It's been 13 days with the same water no aeration at all yet my roots and clones are doing fantastic. I'm running 3 ppm's of chlorine every 3 to 4 days and adding one meal per gallon of H2O2 every 3 days and that's it.

Airwalker16 · Oct 18, 2018

Probably has to do with VPD. We're so accustomed to having HIGH HUMIDITY in taking cuttings, we forget that on the VPD chart, that goes with higher temperatures as well. I really don't know for sure though

shawnery · Oct 18, 2018

I'm considering attempting to run these temps the entire grow.

shawnery · Oct 18, 2018

Day four of roots and day 13 on the current solution so I switched out everything. Was running 160ppm with just spring water and silica so switched to tap at 30 and brought it up to 200ppm with nutes.

Major Blazer · Oct 18, 2018

shawnery said:
I understand all the reasons behind why higher temperatures in your nutrient solution in Hydroponics isn't a good idea but then why do cuttings and clones do so well in that environment?

I'm quoting a blog post from permaclone, awesome resource for cloning if you've never been over there.

permaclone.com said:
Water Temperature. In cloning warmer temperature speed cell divisions with diminishing returns at 87 °F (30 °C).

Major Blazer · Oct 18, 2018

Airwalker16 said:
Probably has to do with VPD. We're so accustomed to having HIGH HUMIDITY in taking cuttings, we forget that on the VPD chart, that goes with higher temperatures as well. I really don't know for sure though

Only with methods other than aeroponic or DWC is high humidity needed and the reason is because the plants are not absorbing water from the stems in every other cloning method.

shawnery · Oct 19, 2018

Day four and I'm not sure they haven't taken a step backwards? Just switched out the water yesterday. They still look white and shiny but they're sticking together. Not sure if that's normal or a sign of an issue? They are not sticky though.

shawnery · Oct 19, 2018

Here's my pump box housing,

Pump, Accumulater, Pressure Switch, Solenoid Valve and the Pressure Gauge.

Just put the box next to the epi and run hose from epi to pump then the guage next is the pressure switch then the slip loc tee next is two lines, one going to the accumulator and one to the Solenoid valve and then out the box to the line to the sprayers.

shawnery · Oct 20, 2018

Home made aero filter.

shawnery · Oct 22, 2018

Roots went dormant for a couple days but just got explosion of lateral root growth. I think once the roots dropped I had to much foliage so I cut more of each finger off and removed one node foliage as well. The next day after those changes is the day my roots took off again.

shawnery · Oct 23, 2018

Sure glad I was wrong about my clones going bad and most probably correct about removing extra foliage?

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