Got my papers signed

dienowk · Dec 1, 2016

420 Boy said:
I went through their website and actually read ALL the new regulations but it is unclear to me.
where do i find a doctor to sign?

Either talk to your own or contact one of the clinics/doctors on this list https://lift.co/doctors
Look for ones based in Quebec if you are currently in MTL as there is a chance others will refuse to prescribe out of province. Get medical documentation of your ailments (if possible) from your own doctor to make the process easier for you.

This is where you obtain both instructions for filling out the paperwork and the paperwork itself http://healthycanadians.gc.ca/drugs-products-medicaments-produits/buying-using-achat-utilisation/cannabis-medical/access-acces/personal-production-personnelle/index-eng.php (this is English, you would have to hit the Francais button in the top right if you or your doctor would prefer it in French).

420 Boy · Dec 1, 2016

dienowk said:
Either talk to your own or contact one of the clinics/doctors on this list https://lift.co/doctors

Thank you, I have made inquiries at growlegally.ca which is a clinic based in Toronto, apparently they do Skype interviews and walk you through the whole process. I'll see what they say and go visit one of those clinics to compare the services/prices.
In the meantime I will try to find a day and go see a doctor to start documenting ALL my health issues.

dienowk · Dec 1, 2016

420 Boy said:
Thank you, I have made inquiries at growlegally.ca which is a clinic based in Toronto, apparently they do Skype interviews and walk you through the whole process. I'll see what they say and go visit one of those clinics to compare the services/prices.
In the meantime I will try to find a day and go see a doctor to start documenting ALL my health issues.

Once you get your documents from the doctor make copies of all of them so that you have them on hand should you need them again at some point, I did not do this and I regretted it when I had to switch clinics.

420 Boy · Dec 1, 2016

dienowk said:
Once you get your documents from the doctor make copies of all of them so that you have them on hand should you need them again at some point, I did not do this and I regretted it when I had to switch clinics.

does the doctor need to sign twice? once for the prescription and once when I apply for the growing license? or is it the same paper?

doingdishes · Dec 1, 2016

420 Boy said:
does the doctor need to sign twice? once for the prescription and once when I apply for the growing license? or is it the same paper?

only once.
they sign for you to possess and you do the rest of the paperwork.
finding a Dr is not an easy thing so I hope it works out for you

CalyxCrusher · Dec 1, 2016

Im curious if Lift has any doctors listed that will sign for personal growing. Being that they are owned by an LP. And I dont mean 1-3g

GrowRock · Dec 1, 2016

420 Boy said:
@OldMedUser
@torontomeds

I've been having health issues for over a year now (anxiety, insomnia, migraines). Recently a doctor prescribed me some sleeping pills "Imovane" but it makes me feel numb, so i went back to cannabis. Now i hear people are getting their prescriptions and are able to grow their own medicine but it is mostly in the states or the West Coast. I am from MTL and don't know anybody who went through the process and tons of BS. Having issues with the Law is the last thing i need right now. Could you please explain to me how I can obtain a prescription+personal growing license?

If you need cannabis for mental health u need a psychiatrist to examine you first due to a gp not having expertise on mental health. So first go to your normal doc who prescribed the lmovane and tell him exactly what you have stated here. Then request you see a psychiatrist. It may take some time but your gp must forward your request. If at all possible have a list of all medications you have tried for insomnia anxiety etc. Explain to the psychiatrist how the side effects interfere with daily life. Once you have seen the psychiatrist then take your medical records, list of prescriptions to a canna clinic. Just my opinion

dienowk · Dec 1, 2016

CalyxCrusher said:
Im curious if Lift has any doctors listed that will sign for personal growing. Being that they are owned by an LP. And I dont mean 1-3g

I also wonder about higher quantities as they for sure sign off on 1-3g. They are not owned by an LP, however they do work with some to help patients get discounts on their shit weed.

I had a buddy who was going to go legal through them and would have required a large script, he decided it was too much effort and that he did not want to deal with Health Canada so he said "fuck that noise"

420 Boy · Dec 1, 2016

dienowk said:
I also wonder about higher quantities as they for sure sign off on 1-3g. They are not owned by an LP, however they do work with some to help patients get discounts on their shit weed.

Most of those doctors who sign prescriptions register you automatically with an LP. I suppose they get $$$$ for it. I found a news article from "Journal De Montreal" where a journalist managed to get a 4g prescription to replace the Imovane that I was prescribed. All together it cost her 420$ and 49days later she got her first 30g. of meds from the LPs. (The article is in french http://www.journaldemontreal.com/2016/06/17/prescription-de-cannabis-medical-a-la-portee-de-tous)

To be honest I hate the idea of buying from LPs as I see the whole system as one big scam that some politicians use to fill their pockets.
And i really don't see the advantage of going through all this BS for a prescription of 4g per day. Especially if I want to grow and make edibles out of it.
Anyway, I am starting to document my medical conditions from now on and hopefully in a month or two I will be ready. Will be communicating with some of the clinics that I've found locally and over the internet and keep you guys posted.

GrowRock said:
If you need cannabis for mental health u need a psychiatrist to examine you

I am not thrilled about the idea of seeing a psychiatrist, but I guess you are right. Monday I will pass by the offices of one of the local clinics and see what they say. The name of the clinic is "One Ounce". That sounds very promising

dienowk · Dec 1, 2016

420 Boy said:
Most of those doctors who sign prescriptions register you automatically with an LP. I suppose they get $$$$ for it. I found a news article from "Journal De Montreal" where a journalist managed to get a 4g prescription to replace the Imovane that I was prescribed. All together it cost her 420$ and 49days later she got her first 30g. of meds from the LPs. (The article is in french http://www.journaldemontreal.com/2016/06/17/prescription-de-cannabis-medical-a-la-portee-de-tous)

To be honest I hate the idea of buying from LPs as I see the whole system as one big scam that some politicians use to fill their pockets.
And i really don't see the advantage of going through all this BS for a prescription of 4g per day. Especially if I want to grow and make edibles out of it.
Anyway, I am starting to document my medical conditions from now on and hopefully in a month or two I will be ready. Will be communicating with some of the clinics that I've found locally and over the internet and keep you guys posted.

I am not thrilled about the idea of seeing a psychiatrist, but I guess you are right. Monday I will pass by the offices of one of the local clinics and see what they say. The name of the clinic is "One Ounce". That sounds very promising

I went through lift resource center but I did not require more than 3g currently (I asked for 2g), I informed them that I wished to grow my own after dealing with LP's since the mmpr started and they took no issue with it and did not try to convince me not to.

cannadan · Dec 1, 2016

there are a few ways.....there is your own Doctor...or any number of newly sprung up Cannabis clinic's
some provinces will allow skype appointments,or consults.
just about any pain clinic will now eagerly set you up....with a referral
I have been asked by 4 different doctors I have seen...personally in the last month..... I kid you not.
in 2012 when I first entertained this idea...I was told by the same doctors....they did not believe in mmj as medicine..
and I had to actually use a consultant,who put me in touch with a law firm who put me in touch with a doctor.....
best thing to do is read up on these canna clinics and choose wisely ...since many of these newly formed clinics
are actually fronts for the licensed producers more or less...
They will tell you you have to choose from these two or three producers ...when in reality you have more like 25 plus to choose from off of the HC list.
The more research you do ...the less likely you are to get told something that is false or misleading...and trust me..
they don't all have the best track records so far....

oops sorry for the late post....

420 Boy · Dec 1, 2016

cannadan said:
The more research you do ...the less likely you are to get told something that is false or misleading...and trust me..
they don't all have the best track records so far....

In that case I will definitely visit both clinics in my area + the one over skype from Toronto. Thank you

I have tried to ask friends, friends of friends and so on. And the only type of people who CLAIM they CAN get you a license 100% because they know a doctor are some kind of very shady characters with horrible reputation. Prices are astronomical as well. I think this is just a scam for young stupid wanna be gangsters or something similar. I can't imagine any person with a normal state of mind paying the price of a 2011 Toyota Camry to some guy who looks like he just got out of the joint (literally).

CalyxCrusher · Dec 2, 2016

dienowk said:
I also wonder about higher quantities as they for sure sign off on 1-3g. They are not owned by an LP, however they do work with some to help patients get discounts on their shit weed.

I had a buddy who was going to go legal through them and would have required a large script, he decided it was too much effort and that he did not want to deal with Health Canada so he said "fuck that noise"

They are absolutely owned by an LP

dienowk said:
I also wonder about higher quantities as they for sure sign off on 1-3g. They are not owned by an LP, however they do work with some to help patients get discounts on their shit weed.

I had a buddy who was going to go legal through them and would have required a large script, he decided it was too much effort and that he did not want to deal with Health Canada so he said "fuck that noise"

Thats right, I was thinking Leafly. Lift is DEFINITELY LP affiliated given the Lift points given for reviews which are used for LP discounts. Greaaaaasy

herbs1 · Dec 2, 2016

Does anyone know if a patient would still qualify for medical cannabis if their medical condition goes into "remission" i.e.cancer?

dienowk · Dec 2, 2016

CalyxCrusher said:
They are absolutely owned by an LP

Thats right, I was thinking Leafly. Lift is DEFINITELY LP affiliated given the Lift points given for reviews which are used for LP discounts. Greaaaaasy

The thing I appreciate about them is that they do not try to talk you into any specific LP and did not try to talk me out of growing at all. Although I no longer like or use LP's them convincing LP's to give discounts for lift points from reviews does help the people who have no other source for their medicine.

herbs1 said:
Does anyone know if a patient would still qualify for medical cannabis if their medical condition goes into "remission" i.e.cancer?

I do not know to be honest, unless you have a good doctor I am guessing not though (although I could be completely wrong).

OGEvilgenius · Dec 2, 2016

torontoke said:
You could easily build a custom tent set up yourself any shape you need.
Pvc tubing under 1 1/2" is cheap af.
I'd probably go even smaller like 34/1" max. Lots of 90's and 45's
Wrap the inside with panda and the outside with light blocking curtains.

Perpetual is the way to go if you can stay on top of the workload.
good luck

I wouldn't use PVC... I'd just frame out something with wood if you're going that way. PVC is useful but if you're pushing a lot of air and have a carbon filter hanging etc I wouldn't trust it personally. I've heard of the metal framed ones collapsing in on themselves I can see that happening with a PVC setup too.

cannadan · Dec 2, 2016

herbs1 said:
Does anyone know if a patient would still qualify for medical cannabis if their medical condition goes into "remission" i.e.cancer?

for that situation you would continue to medicate...if only as a preventative measure.....

gb123 · Dec 3, 2016

herbs1 said:
Does anyone know if a patient would still qualify for medical cannabis if their medical condition goes into "remission" i.e.cancer?

100% on that, and above all it should be taken for maintenance continually but at less amounts of course!!!!!!
Growing for your life is cheap by comparison to buying off of LP or even the BM.
YOu can grow pounds for a couple hundred bucks and produce oil at cents on the dollar!
Instead of BUYING IT !!!!
grow outside for free!!!!

others will tell you its to hard and you should bend over and take it from the ones who used to jail your soorry ass for wanting to stay alive.

In Cannada now if you are sick you have to right to treat yourself any way you see fit with cannabis.

end of story!

420 Boy · Dec 3, 2016

I got the first answer from growlegally.ca
this is how it goes:

Hello ********,
Thank you for choosing GrowLegally. We are looking forward to being a trusted partner in your good health.
Before we pass your file to the doctor's office for your Skype appointment, please complete the following steps.
1. Scan and email us a copy of your Health Card and Photo ID.
2. Medical records or referral form signed by your doctor. Scan and email us a copy and mail the original to GrowLegally, 4711 Yonge Street, 10th Floor, Toronto, ON M2N 6K8.
3. Payment $282.50 (incl tax)send EMT to: [email protected] and make security answer: growlegally *additional fees apply for personal production, contact us for a quote*
4. Register with a Licensed Producer. (see list below)
5. Complete the attached form: GrowLegally Patient Questionnaire and Medical Marihuana Contract. Scan and email us a copy and mail the original to GrowLegally, 4711 Yonge Street, 10th Floor, Toronto, ON M2N 6K8.
6. Register with Wholesome Holistic (recommended compassion club): complete the form titled WNAM Registration. Scan and email us a copy and mail the original to GrowLegally, 4711 Yonge Street, 10th Floor, Toronto, ON M2N 6K8.
I have also included a list of our preferred Licensed Producers, please register with one of your choice prior to the appointment.

All requirements must be provided prior to scheduled appointments. Any questions or concerns, please do not hesitate to contact us.
Kind Regards,
********

Well, I have asked for approximate fees for the personal production license and informed them that I am not looking to register with a LP.
Let's wait and see what they answer

dienowk · Dec 3, 2016

420 Boy said:
I got the first answer from growlegally.ca
this is how it goes:

Hello ********,
Thank you for choosing GrowLegally. We are looking forward to being a trusted partner in your good health.
Before we pass your file to the doctor's office for your Skype appointment, please complete the following steps.
1. Scan and email us a copy of your Health Card and Photo ID.
2. Medical records or referral form signed by your doctor. Scan and email us a copy and mail the original to GrowLegally, 4711 Yonge Street, 10th Floor, Toronto, ON M2N 6K8.
3. Payment $282.50 (incl tax)send EMT to: [email protected] and make security answer: growlegally *additional fees apply for personal production, contact us for a quote*
4. Register with a Licensed Producer. (see list below)
5. Complete the attached form: GrowLegally Patient Questionnaire and Medical Marihuana Contract. Scan and email us a copy and mail the original to GrowLegally, 4711 Yonge Street, 10th Floor, Toronto, ON M2N 6K8.
6. Register with Wholesome Holistic (recommended compassion club): complete the form titled WNAM Registration. Scan and email us a copy and mail the original to GrowLegally, 4711 Yonge Street, 10th Floor, Toronto, ON M2N 6K8.
I have also included a list of our preferred Licensed Producers, please register with one of your choice prior to the appointment.

MedReleaf

Maricann

CannTrust

Mettrum

Tweed

Bedrocan

Broken Coast

All requirements must be provided prior to scheduled appointments. Any questions or concerns, please do not hesitate to contact us.
Kind Regards,
********

Well, I have asked for approximate fees for the personal production license and informed them that I am not looking to register with a LP.
Let's wait and see what they answer

I would be asking why it costs more for personal production when all they have to do is sign a medical document just as they do with an LP.

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