Good will squandered

20 years ago today, the world was behind the USA like never before. I think about the possibilities that could have come from that tragedy if the good will it generated wasn’t squandered to gain more power.


How 9/11 forged an age of political turmoil

Tough topic with lots of thoughts, yet it's always hard to find the motivation to express them. There was a strong feeling of unity for a while and we didn't really do anything good with it.

The national debt was 6 trillion, which would be 9 trillion today to include inflation.

I doubt there will be any rebuttal to this video. Proceed.

That's the dumbest shit ever. As if the government had a reporter lady in on their conspiracy to destroy a building, obviously because they were just trying to be super efficient with the BBC's reporting timing, but screwed up and told them early, even though there was no reason to because they could have just turned around and looked, and even though it would be absurd for them to bring some random unnecessary person in on what would be one of the biggest scandals in history.

Did you hear the gov't caused the floods Tennessee? We know this because they told some guy at Burger King beforehand, but he slipped up and told the world accidentally.

CunningCanuk said:

20 years ago today, the world was behind the USA like never before. I think about the possibilities that could have come from that tragedy if the good will it generated wasn’t squandered to gain more power.


How 9/11 forged an age of political turmoil

How 9/11 forged an age of political turmoil | CNN Politics

America went into battle on September 11, 2001, united in defense of its values and way of life. Twenty years on, it is at war with itself, its democracy threatened from within in a way Osama bin Laden never managed.

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It was just squandered with no power gained, as if that might have justified what the US did. We lost goodwill during the years of endless war and lost trust by foisting false intelligence to justify it. Lumping Afghanistan with Iraq to justify invading a second country pretty much ended support and credibility from our allies.

Their use of fear mongering (terrorists are coming FOR YOU!!!), their use of torture, the way they smeared anybody who tried to tell the truth (French surrender monkeys). It all amounts to loss of trust and influence for the US. For good reason we lost power. We abused it and didn't deserve to keep it.

Then there is also Obama's campaign of drone strikes. We kept using force and guess what? Our enemies were more resolved than ever to make the US pay for its crimes.

I don't think I'm a pacifist but I don't see how violence solved anything. How about if we stop threatening people? You know, the old saying. If you find that you are digging yourself deeper into a hole, the first thing to do is stop digging.

There had to be a response, determine where bin Laden was and drop a MOAB on him, the US military would still be feared. It was expending a lot of effort and showing no return on it that the US was not all powerful as was feared. The world was in the US's court. Probably will never have a chance like that again.

Fogdog said:

It was just squandered with no power gained, as if that might have justified what the US did. We lost goodwill during the years of endless war and lost trust by foisting false intelligence to justify it. Lumping Afghanistan with Iraq to justify invading a second country pretty much ended support and credibility from our allies.

Their use of fear mongering (terrorists are coming FOR YOU!!!), their use of torture, the way they smeared anybody who tried to tell the truth (French surrender monkeys). It all amounts to loss of trust and influence for the US. For good reason we lost power. We abused it and didn't deserve to keep it.

Then there is also Obama's campaign of drone strikes. We kept using force and guess what? Our enemies were more resolved than ever to make the US pay for its crimes.

I don't think I'm a pacifist but I don't see how violence solved anything. How about if we stop threatening people? You know, the old saying. If you find that you are digging yourself deeper into a hole, the first thing to do is stop digging.

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and yet they're already here, within, this whole time..coming for us? oh yes, they are.

printer said:

There had to be a response, determine where bin Laden was and drop a MOAB on him, the US military would still be feared. It was expending a lot of effort and showing no return on it that the US was not all powerful as was feared. The world was in the US's court. Probably will never have a chance like that again.

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that fvcker used his available wives as human shields.

schuylaar said:

and yet they're already here, within, this whole time..coming for us? oh yes, they are.

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Of the long list of things that I consider threats, "they" are not one of them.

schuylaar said:

that fvcker used his available wives as human shields.

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"Hey I love you but Islam says you are expendable". "And besides, I have a lot more wives waiting for me when it is my time."