Good Grow Room? (Pictures and Updates)

My plant is 16" tall.

I have 2 x 32wt 6500k "Day Time" Florescent Tubes above the plant and 2 x 27wt 5000k "Day Time" CFLs on the side.
Im running the lights 20/4.
The room is about 4' X 8' and about 10' tall
I have fans blowing on my plant 24/7
I have a attic directly above the room with a fan blowing into the attic
There are 4 lights and 3 fans (Big fan in pic leads to attic)

What do you think? Any Advice?

Here are pics as of today 2/13/11





Thanks Guys

Happy Toking

seems like you have a pretty decent setup the only thing i would suggest is not leaving the fan on 24/7 nor putting it directly on your plants as it tends to make the buds very "airy" and light i would just leave your fan on while your lights are on to be honest and as for using a 20/4 light sched. there has been alot of studies showing that anything after 18hours really doesn't affect your plant and your just wasting electricity 16/8 or 18/6 sched is the most cost efficient , but if you already have it on 20/4 i wouldn't change it now as its probably to late and could possibly induce flowering but i doubt it good luck and nice setup

Alright fella,

Looking good but going on the colour of that stem there you might wanna start adding some micro-nutes... unless its one of the strainages traits?

And what kartoon has said about you fans isn't strictly true.. when we grow indoors under lights all we are doing is trying to replecate mother nature and i can't think of the last time i went outside at night and the wasn't any wind..
Take alook at my vid you'll see that ive a fan blowing straight at the girls..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BgeGFa9m9yA
Anyways good luck fella
Thc604

What micro-nutes would you recommended?

ur camera takes NICE pics.
cant really see the whole setup, that stem IS red.. dunno what thats about

Kart0oN said:

seems like you have a pretty decent setup the only thing i would suggest is not leaving the fan on 24/7 nor putting it directly on your plants as it tends to make the buds very "airy" and light i would just leave your fan on while your lights are on to be honest and as for using a 20/4 light sched. there has been alot of studies showing that anything after 18hours really doesn't affect your plant and your just wasting electricity 16/8 or 18/6 sched is the most cost efficient , but if you already have it on 20/4 i wouldn't change it now as its probably to late and could possibly induce flowering but i doubt it good luck and nice setup

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Sorry, but you are completely wrong here, on both counts. Fans should be on 24/7, not only to strengthen stems, but also to help prevent things like mold and mildew from taking hold on the plants. This is even more important during lights off, when humidity rises.

As for the "many studies" regarding 18/6 vs 20/4, the only serious study that i have ever known of resulted in the opposite outcome, with 20/4 veg time giving an increased yield after flowering, compared to clones in an identical setup, but with an 18/6 veg time.


Edit: Here is the outcome of that study.

We did a lot of experiments with light times a few years back using known sat and sat dom clone lines.

With Vegging ie under hid lights.

20/4 produced the most sturdy growth and the most bulk. Best final yield, taken as 100%.
22/2 Less of both. yield 88%
18/6 Studier than 22/2 but slightly less bulk. yield 87%
24/0 Much lighter in all aspects than 18/6. Yield 79%
16/8 The weediest plants. yield 67%

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Alright mate,

well i run the dutch pro soil line of nutes. both grow and bloom have two parts a/b and as far as im aware contain all trace elemets needed for happy growth.

You best bet is your local grow shop, pop in and ask them what line of nutes would best suit your needs mate..
If your growing organic you need to tell them that so they can point you in the righ direction..
The organic grows i've done in the past i've run the canna bio range and i was quite impresssed however i was also using bio bizz alg a mg as a vitality booster..

Anyways mate good job and i wish you luck.
Thc604

Looks like you got it pretty takin care of.

Kart0oN said:

seems like you have a pretty decent setup the only thing i would suggest is not leaving the fan on 24/7 nor putting it directly on your plants as it tends to make the buds very "airy" and light i would just leave your fan on while your lights are on to be honest and as for using a 20/4 light sched. there has been alot of studies showing that anything after 18hours really doesn't affect your plant and your just wasting electricity 16/8 or 18/6 sched is the most cost efficient , but if you already have it on 20/4 i wouldn't change it now as its probably to late and could possibly induce flowering but i doubt it good luck and nice setup

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4 hrs of darkness will not induce flowering.

Nocturn3 said:

Sorry, but you are completely wrong here, on both counts. Fans should be on 24/7, not only to strengthen stems, but also to help prevent things like mold and mildew from taking hold on the plants. This is even more important during lights off, when humidity rises.

As for the "many studies" regarding 18/6 vs 20/4, the only serious study that i have ever known of resulted in the opposite outcome, with 20/4 veg time giving an increased yield after flowering, compared to clones in an identical setup, but with an 18/6 veg time.


Edit: Here is the outcome of that study.

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I'm with Nocturn3 on this. Leave fan on just not directly on the plant to hard enough to keep air moving in the room. Without air movment the plant has a hard time breathing. There is always air moving outside and it is a bit larger outside too.

The biggest thing that concerns me with your setup is the "fan blowing into the attic". I see this as problematic. This is what I see is going to happen in your attic very soon. I am assuming that your attic is colder than your grow room this time of year. You are exhusting warm humid air into a colder room, the most air will start to condense in the attic causing an extremly humid enviroment even raining down on things up there. Mold will start to grow and house rot will follow.

This might sound a bit extreem but I sugest you going up there and checking on things if you have been running your room this way for awhile. Let me know.

lastly your plants are getting a bit tall for CFLs if you haven't flipped 12/12 yet. They will stretch quite a bit for the first two weeks.

THC604 said:

Alright mate,

well i run the dutch pro soil line of nutes. both grow and bloom have two parts a/b and as far as im aware contain all trace elemets needed for happy growth.

You best bet is your local grow shop, pop in and ask them what line of nutes would best suit your needs mate..
If your growing organic you need to tell them that so they can point you in the righ direction..
The organic grows i've done in the past i've run the canna bio range and i was quite impresssed however i was also using bio bizz alg a mg as a vitality booster..

Anyways mate good job and i wish you luck.
Thc604

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Okay thanks,my local store is Home Depot
Im just running organic not hydo or anything
I dont know much about Nutes but I know I need Phosphorous for the red stem

Any suggestions?
Any Brands?
Anything really helps

As for the lighting cycle ive decided im going to keep it 20/4 till its time to bud then ill switch 18/6 for a week then 12/12

Be careful chasing nute defs that your not sure exist. This may be normal for the strain your growing. You can get the Alaska brand of organic nutes at HD. Start slow and work it up. Don't switch to a strong bloom to soon. Keep a balanced mix for the first two to three weeks of flower. To many peeps starve their plants of N way to soon. I like my plants to stay green as long as I can.

About how long do you think I should wait before I start flowering?
Ive had the plant about 2 weeks, I got it at about 1' tall
Was planning at least a month probably longer, I want it about 3 feet before I veg
I wanna veg for as long as possible to get the biggest harvest

Thanks guys

DankyKush1 said:

As for the lighting cycle ive decided im going to keep it 20/4 till its time to bud then ill switch 18/6 for a week then 12/12

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No need to do the 18/6 go straight to 12/12. I think it's time to switch 12/12
Your plant look like a clone so at least you know it's a girl and you then can also see if the color of the stem is normal.

DankyKush1 said:

About how long do you think I should wait before I start flowering?
Ive had the plant about 2 weeks, I got it at about 1' tall
Was planning at least a month probably longer, I want it about 3 feet before I veg
I wanna veg for as long as possible to get the biggest harvest

Thanks guys

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Biggest harvest or best buds? If big is all your after then have fun. If you are going to grow the plant tall and want good buds then you better get a 1000 watt light. Even then veging to 3 feet before flipping to flower is not the way I would go.

Okay and just to be sure Nutes that say "Flowering" and that stuff is good to give the plant to boost the flowing on a mmj plant too right?

Really 12/12 so soon?
Its still pretty small

Your growing with CFLs correct? Then yes. It will still grow (stretch) for another two weeks after you change to 12/12 . Floros don't penetrate to deep. if you want good smoke don't let the plant get to far from the floro lights. You may even want to bend her over.

I'd like to see how this turns out.

DankyKush1 said:

Okay and just to be sure Nutes that say "Flowering" and that stuff is good to give the plant to boost the flowing on a mmj plant too right?

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Yes.

UPDATE:
I now have 3 CFLs and here are some clear pictures of my space

What do you think?

Im assuming that the red stem is lack of Nutes cause both plants have a red stem and they are different strains

I think Im going to try and get Jacks 20-20-20 and 10-30-20
Or the Home Depot version that has 20-20-20 and 10-30-20