What to belive ? I've seen so Many people suggest a breeder then 10 people tear him apart. So what am I supposed to believe I've serch ed and serch and still not found what I'm looking for . So I need help from experienced outdoor and indoor growers . I started growing gorrila style about 10 years ago and bought my seeds from yes u won't belive this Ontario seed bank ! I bought what I thought was northern lights . The seeds was small and molten like a nl seed usually is but when I grew these little seeds they turned into 9 to 14 ft monsters the plant itself looked like a northern lights plant hi bud to leaf ratio no smell until u touched them but structure all that looked like a NL but these girls would hit heights of 10 ft with 2 lbs on them no problem the smoke was pleasant a sativa high up and ready for 2 or 3 hrs . I loved it . But the next NL I got from him was short no producing plants with more smell than the others and did not produce anything like what I had before I ordered some more stuff and it was junk as well . So I moved on . I bought some Jordan of the island it was junk then I bought some sensi seeds nl 5 haze and nl junk then some TGA gear and omg u couldn't hide that shit in the Titanic without it stinking the whole ocean up . This year I gor out some kc brains NL and humbolt seeds lemon garlic , sour d , and blue berry headband. The sour d is doing well and the lemon garlic also but the chem dog and bb headband suck lots off leaf and short . I'm not impressed. So I'm looking for recommendations from people who have had success outdoors with big plants in the south east of the usa . What seed bank and what breeder. Would love to see some photos of them if by chance u got them . Thank you all for the input and reading this long post .
Genetics
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chemphlegm
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whenever I think its the strain.....it's usually me
I'm not sure about that.whenever I think its the strain.....it's usually me
MrMayhem1134
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One mans trash is another mans treasure. Jordan produced the original God Bud so it is hard to believe everything he has is junk. Maybe not right for your situation, or maybe you didn't pop enough seeds to find what you are looking for. You passed on the TGA gear as well because it had too much smell? So you want something with little to no smell, but that is still potent for outdoors? Trying to clarify what exactly you are looking for, but as suggested it is easier to research yourself then ask for help. I was in a similar situation and it only took me about a month to sort the good from the bad. Still some gray areas, but for the most part I have been able to build my collection from reputable breeders and seed banks. Another thing I suggest is more then just researching the strain or lineage, research the seed bank itself. How do they handle missing orders and a lot of questions? Do they have a good record for not only sending, but also sending what was advertised? How are germination rates? Just a few things to get you started
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dabby duck
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swamp boys gear?
GranolaFunk
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bodhi
waterproof808
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South Fork Seeds if you want huge stinky outdoor plants. I'm not the least bit interested in anything from TGA, Sensi Seeds, JOTI, or HSO.
Odin*
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whenever I think its the strain.....it's usually me
He's right, though. A great grower can bring out the best in a strain, a shit grower can make the "Holy Grail" of strains finish like shit.
When it comes to "genetics", there are many variables, even within the exact same "cut".
One mans trash is another mans treasure. Jordan produced the original God Bud so it is hard to believe everything he has is junk. Maybe not right for your situation, or maybe you didn't pop enough seeds to find what you are looking for. You passed on the TGA gear as well because it had too much smell? So you want something with little to no smell, but that is still potent for outdoors? Trying to clarify what exactly you are looking for, but as suggested it is easier to research yourself then ask for help. I was in a similar situation and it only took me about a month to sort the good from the bad. Still some gray areas, but for the most part I have been able to build my collection from reputable breeders and seed banks. Another thing I suggest is more then just researching the strain or lineage, research the seed bank itself. How do they handle missing orders and a lot of questions? Do they have a good record for not only sending, but also sending what was advertised? How are germination rates? Just a few things to get you started
Man I think u may have it . Just wondering if I can repeat what I did on accident. Just been struggling to get there again with more knowledge I get worse . It's in the genetics. No other way around it . Yes we all have different stuff . Taste , high, smell, but I look at this way I like quantity. It seems like the seed breeders are focused on one thing , indoor grows with led lighting that works off a cell phone . I'm old school and like old school massive plants . I just can't find them I keep finding plants that do horrible in a high humid southern climate uhhh .
MrMayhem1134
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Bodhi releases old school genetics from time to time. Most recently Jamaican HP x 88G13/HP, Acapulco Gold, and Zipolite Oaxacan. He travels a lot and you may find something you like from those old school genetics. There are probably a couple other breeders with landrace/old school genetics, but bodhi is one I know of and have heard good things about.
maxamus1
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Sounds a lot like u going to put blame on everyone else if it doesnt hold to your standards or of your expectations. I do agree that there is more then enough info on here to find what your looking for. And instead of looking for breeders if ur in the south east us. You may want to look for something that can take high heat with high humidity for starters.
Yes I been looking this isn't my first time at this it's been 10 seasons outside and we never know what kind of summer we will have 4 years in a roll we had dry hot air and the last 3 we had a wet humid summer with heavy dews that stayed on almost all day . I been trying to find plants that have a high but to leaf ratio so it would let air and sun in so it would dry . I also look for tall plants instead of short bushy one because I'm planting 4 in 1 location and I don't have the room to grow out I a can only go up . State law it's a felony to go over 4 so I have to do 4 in spot and move on . This all having to be done while trying to keep a low profile, low odor and they have to be hidden up againt tree line and such witch kills my air movement and all day sun shine . Some strand hate this and some can handle it . I've orderd junk from companies that was week I must add that I can pop open any viable seed and run with it I start them inside and get them healthy . I ran into so many junk seeds and week seedlings when they won't take off indoors and the plant is week and legy u know something is up . That's why I joined this forum to ask you guys what's been working for all of u . Any help is great full .